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There is one big problem many just decide to ignore.You don't take into account how many posts were deleted from most popular games.
BB,DMD and DOD each have around 50 pages deleted every time when there was a new update back in 2017.Not to mention how many people were banned at that time or their profiles were deleted.
And yes BADIK is not an exception-WVM reached page 400 in only 5 months.
It's not that I didn't account for how many posts were deleted, I just didn't know how that could be included. I saw WVM up there in the mix as well, just felt the point was made already - TIME does not indicate popularity and is probably one of the least important things to look at. And as one follow-up post suggested, honestly who cares how popular a game is and how fast it got there. Just kick back and enjoy!

There is one big problem many just decide to ignore.You don't take into account how many posts were deleted from most popular games.
BB,DMD and DOD each have around 50 pages deleted every time when there was a new update back in 2017.Not to mention how many people were banned at that time or their profiles were deleted.
And yes BADIK is not an exception-WVM reached page 400 in only 5 months.

Well if the game was not having incest I bet it will not gather even half of the popularity.Seriously if you delete all scenes with Patricia,Ellie and Dylan that will be more than half of the game.
Of course in that case we will be already much later in the game.
I have thought about truncating the game to only include things that are in Sophia's pov - so you don't see any of the other character interactions where she isn't present, or anyone else's thoughts. Also would make it straight narrative with no paths. Just curious to see what that would actually look like. Maybe for a rainy day...
 

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It's not that I didn't account for how many posts were deleted, I just didn't know how that could be included. I saw WVM up there in the mix as well, just felt the point was made already - TIME does not indicate popularity and is probably one of the least important things to look at. And as one follow-up post suggested, honestly who cares how popular a game is and how fast it got there. Just kick back and enjoy!


I have thought about truncating the game to only include things that are in Sophia's pov - so you don't see any of the other character interactions where she isn't present, or anyone else's thoughts. Also would make it straight narrative with no paths. Just curious to see what that would actually look like. Maybe for a rainy day...
Just play DoL and you will understand.
 

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Decisions of Life. The Patreon friendly version of AWAM, with the references to incest removed. Ellie becomes Sophia's "friend", Patricia her "best friend", and Dylan her "lodger". Also has scenes removed, like the day 17 evening shower, and I think the bikini show. I would need to check my copy to confirm what scenes are removed though.

Personally I'm intrigued as to why Ellie and Dylan have different relationships to Sophia.
 
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Decisions of Life. The Patreon friendly version of AWAM, with the references to incest removed. Ellie becomes Sophia's "friend", Patricia her "best friend", and Dylan her "lodger". Also has scenes removed, like the day 17 evening shower, and I think the bikini show. I would need to check my copy to confirm what scenes are removed though.

Personally I'm intrigued as to why Ellie and Dylan have different relationships to Sophia.
i thought it was another game :ROFLMAO:
 

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i thought it was another game :ROFLMAO:
Well he can't still call it "A Wife and Mother" when all references to Sophia being the mother of Dylan and Ellie have been removed, now can he?

But don't worry, you're not the only one that occasionally thinks so. I've had posts deleted by mods because they thought I was discussing another game. Probably because I like the ponder about why Ellie has an intrinsically closer relationship to Sophia than Dylan does. That she wasn't made a "lodger" as well, but a "friend".
 
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Just play DoL and you will understand.
Nah, that's not what I meant. I mean what would the game be like with all the incest intact, but only Sophia' POV, no additional information provided - eg., fix my computer scene, gone. Boys at soccer game, gone. Only what she sees and hears.
 

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Nah, that's not what I meant. I mean what would the game be like with all the incest intact, but only Sophia' POV, no additional information provided - eg., fix my computer scene, gone. Boys at soccer game, gone. Only what she sees and hears.
Fairly sure Sophia can watch the soccer game - it makes the difference between Dylan scoring 3 goals or none.
 

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Yes Sophia has the option to watch the soccer game.
I mean the scene where the boys are teasing and he has to choose between liking/not liking them talking dirty about Sophia - she's not there to witness it so that part is removed. Not that important really, I'll probably never get around to doing it.
 
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I mean the scene where the boys are teasing and he has to choose between liking/not liking them talking dirty about Sophia - she's not there to witness it so that part is removed. Not that important really, I'll probably never get around to doing it.
It's an interesting idea though. I'm editing the code on and off myself, changing details like dialogue so that it flows better. That said, I really just like wandering through the code, and discovering things like the fact that the only kiss Dylan has got from Sophia so far is "insidious".
 

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anyone know where is this scene in the game
it look like subway View attachment 943008
Yes, it's a subway. When Sophia goes to get a haircut, she can take the car or the subway. Taking the subway is pretty dumb and pointless though, as Patricia tells her it's dangerous, and not to do it, especially at night.

And the thugs don't get up to much, and nothing worthwhile. Isn't even any nudity. And from memory, even if you don't report them, aren't due to return until much later, if at all.

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I was curious, so I went and checked, and you don't even get any Filthy points from the encounter. Much like choosing Dylan over Ellie during the soccer game, watching porn etc. No real point since they achieve nothing in the story at all.
 
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Yes, it's a subway. When Sophia goes to get a haircut, she can take the car or the subway. Taking the subway is pretty dumb and pointless though, as Patricia tells her it's dangerous, and not to do it, especially at night.

And the thugs don't get up to much, and nothing worthwhile. Isn't even any nudity. And from memory, even if you don't report them, aren't due to return until much later, if at all.

EDIT:
I was curious, so I went and checked, and you don't even get any Filthy points from the encounter. Much like choosing Dylan over Ellie during the soccer game, watching porn etc. No real point since they achieve nothing in the story at all.
Well we are talking about Dylan here who couldn't get laid in a brothel even if he had the cash
 
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Well we are talking about Dylan here who couldn't get laid in a brothel even if he had the cash
Ouch! I'm not even that harsh. And unless you fuck up the Yoga event, Marie thinks he's cute, so he does have a chance there, even if you play Sophia's POV
 

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Well he can't still call it "A Wife and Mother" when all references to Sophia being the mother of Dylan and Ellie have been removed, now can he?

But don't worry, you're not the only one that occasionally thinks so. I've had posts deleted by mods because they thought I was discussing another game. Probably because I like the ponder about why Ellie has an intrinsically closer relationship to Sophia than Dylan does. That she wasn't made a "lodger" as well, but a "friend".
I am curious. If it is called DOL on Patreon, where is it still called A Wife and Mother? Does Lust and Passion offer the game as A Wife and Mother on another website?
 
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