Duriel

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Finally, let's be serious here, most stories are about stretching the imagination and sometimes seeing things you would never see in reality.
Imagine writing exclusively stuff you deem realistic without exaggerating or stretching it one bit for storytelling and kinky purposes.

That's the recipe for boring and flat/samey stories right there.
 

Maviarab

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ou have a point- but irregardless it was just an example. There needs to be something that Dylan does that he can show growth from. Maybe the training is too obvious, but at some point he as a character does need to show some growth and the Aiden storyline seems like the obvious place for it to happen.
Hmmm I dunno...maybe spend 6 years in a remote mountain community as a missionary and remove himself from the story? ;) :p
 

horankao

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Yep, sounds like you reached the end. But we're hopeful to get the next update by the end of the month, so your timing is good. Be warned, this game is not updated quickly.

I justify the Filthy wife path by figuring that Sophia is, deep down, a very submissive and sexual creature. She justifies her actions in all sorts of ways (many of which are flimsy excuses) but really she's just doing what she wants to do anyways. Otherwise, you're right that the scenarios can be pretty implausible.

Others can give you a detailed breakdown of the scoring system, but in case you were unsure the game doesn't require a certain amount of Good Wife, or Filthy Wife, points. It only requires that you have more of one than the other if you want to make certain choices.

cool,thanks. Like I aint a prude so I know it is a porno game but it just seemed so too implausible some stuff. I really liked the bit when I was putting sun lotion on Ellie and a lot of the scenarios with her seemed really plausible, or when I was teaching Sam and Dylan to swim but started at first in the t-shirt and no pants which then naturally rolled into me getting into the pool because it was impossible to teach them to swim otherwise. I honestly really impressed with how well Ellie came across when she was talking to Julia about sexuality. I did try what you raise or thought about it with the bathroom to pee with the Son in it but it seemed too pushing it for my play through so didn't. Though I totally could buy going into the shower with Ellie. I enjoyed the basketball game because it seemed more natural for me to let them touch for a while and beat them (approached it as collisions happen) then at the end told Sam privately that he was pushing it too much to improve his life prospects lmao like a mentor but did the good wife one not the filthy, he can't go around crotch stabbing all women in life! Good lad just needs a bit more control haha. It pretty weird getting myself so much into Sophia character. I do think it well constructed the characters lul. The most erotic stuff for me are the stuff that was plausible somewhat. I really enjoyed the yoga class with all them and how Patricia, the naughty minx behaved from Dylan POV. I also enjoyed the Vicky scenes and some of the Patricia, I know when I missed some scenarios but it seemed too poor parenting to not watch Dylan play, I was surprised I didnt get much more Dylan points or not sure if any because he clearly needed the support for that game or having more ways to interact with the other moms lesbian and filthy stats.

I think if I had longer day limit and more scenarios I could do the repressed lesbian play through, I really enjoyed watching the Maid lmao and all the lesbian stuff. I think you could do with some side ways to up stats or down stats like a naughty masturbation session or peeking at a magazine etc. I ran out of scenarios that delivered more points to offset the Good Wife ones by the end so a few scenarios I was too low. So I was trying a more slow burn lesbian coming to realization and I wonder if Filthy should be split into Sexual and Filthy?

Thanks for letting me know with the updates, but I really fine to wait. I think the creator has good potential with this whole thing.
 

Poser_Voyeur

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I agree, it's really disgusting :sick::sick::sick:

NTR is the dark path :cautious:
We all have our personal kinks. Some to a greater or lesser degree. NTR is not one of my main kinks, not my personal favourite. Yet I don't mind it in certain games when it is done right, so long as I know upfront that that is something that the game / VN is aiming for. Like most things if it is the main intention of the gam /VN and it is done well, then I can enjoy it.

But I don't want to see NTR anywhere near A Wife and Mother
 

Notretsam

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It’s not just any woman, a girl you want to get into her pants. Sophia is his mother! Ok, let‘s say you would like to fuck your mother!? Then you would ask some moron to have her dress more lasciviously/slutty? You’re out of your mind.
Sorry but you're completely and utterly wrong, it doesn't matter if its mother or not, it's still a woman he wants to fuck and men will do all kinds of shit to do that. In fact, he most likely doesn't see her his mother now, she is a babe he wants to fuck, that's it, that is all, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not true. #FACT

so looking forward to the next update, that is the one I want, Aiden task, side jobs and Dylan.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Sorry but you're completely and utterly wrong, it doesn't matter if its mother or not, it's still a woman he wants to fuck and men will do all kinds of shit to do that. In fact, he most likely doesn't see her his mother now, she is a babe he wants to fuck, that's it, that is all, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not true. #FACT



so looking forward to the next update, that is the one I want, Aiden task, side jobs and Dylan.
Your views on male sexuality are dark and very twisted.
 

Poser_Voyeur

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Sorry but you're completely and utterly wrong, it doesn't matter if its mother or not, it's still a woman he wants to fuck and men will do all kinds of shit to do that. In fact, he most likely doesn't see her his mother now, she is a babe he wants to fuck, that's it, that is all, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not true. #FACT



so looking forward to the next update, that is the one I want, Aiden task, side jobs and Dylan.
If that is the way that YOU wish to view the Sophia Dylan relationship, that she is just "a babe he wants to fuck", then I am not going to try and persuade you how wrong you are.

It is not how I view choose to view it and not how I will be playing it.
 

Notretsam

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Your views on male sexuality are dark and very twisted.
That is because a lot of males are very dark and twisted in how they treat woman, that is just a fact. Just ask anyone related to timesup or who used #me2 tag on Twitter.

If that is the way that YOU wish to view the Sophia Dylan relationship, that she is just "a babe he wants to fuck", then I am not going to try and persuade you how wrong you are.

It is not how I view choose to view it and not how I will be playing it.
Read above and in another post regarding this, I said there was no proof that Dylan does care for Sophia and also said there is no proof he doesn't care for Sophia, I actually think he does. I was pointing out to someone that yes it's entirely possible for someone to work with someone else to manipulate a family member into doing what they want, Hollywood movies have been telling similar stories for many years.

End of day y'all know I'm right, it's the dark side of humanity where it's very likely someone in the real world would manipulate there own mother into doing something they didn't want to. Deny it all you want, facepalm the heck out of this post all you want but it's a fact that males and humanity can be very evil.

Anyway, my key point is just because you don't like something or don't agree with it doesn't mean it can't happen. So it was certainly possible for Dylan to work with Aiden to manipulate Sophia into sexual acts.
 

armion82

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Except that we don't, and sadly now will never, know the full story of Dylan growing as a character. Yes things might not make sense now, but only because we don't know all the details, like how we don't know what Dylan did to make Ellie hate him so much.

That it makes Dylan look bad is actually good for the story, because it gives him something that he can overcome. Maybe even something he can overcome himself, unlike the Aiden and Bennett routes, which require Sophia to intervene. And I'd probably have more respect for Dylan as a character if he did overcome things himself. But unfortunately L&P and Dylan fans aren't giving Dylan that opportunity.
You realise the twist in on the path where the whole Sophia/Dylan thing is just over.So there will be no overcoming anything.That path is made for Dylan/Amber.
Don't worry, in a span of 2-3 years Sophia will spread her long divine legs for Ellie, Dylan, Sam, Pat and a line of others. Or not, and that would be a bummer.
I don't see how anyone can expect we will get 10 more playable days in next 2-3 years.Because that is what sounds like the most optimistic for sex with Dylan,Sam or any other male outside Liam and Bennett.
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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I don't see how anyone can expect we will get 10 more playable days in next 2-3 years.Because that is what sounds like the most optimistic for sex with Dylan,Sam or any other male outside Liam and Bennett.
I too have my doubts about the longevity of this game. I know L&P has stuck with it for a long time, but committing to one thing for 5+ years is a long time and shit can happen. 30 total playable days seems impossible to me, and may necessitate not only time skips but also montages to move the story forward. If anyone has played the original Xenogears on Playstation 1, think of disk 2 and all the jumping they did to move the story forward. (I know, that's a nerdy reference.)
 

armion82

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I too have my doubts about the longevity of this game. I know L&P has stuck with it for a long time, but committing to one thing for 5+ years is a long time and shit can happen. 30 total playable days seems impossible to me, and may necessitate not only time skips but also montages to move the story forward. If anyone has played the original Xenogears on Playstation 1, think of disk 2 and all the jumping they did to move the story forward. (I know, that's a nerdy reference.)
We have 2 games that are already 6 years in development,still ongoing.And doesn't look like they will be done for at least 2-3 more years.Maybe L&P is trying to to outdo them?
 
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