lockerxx

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The lesbian route is unlikely to have another event for another 5-6 months. The next event I'm looking forward to is the Nathalie event in the v0.15 update, so may be the consequences of Sophia spying on her masturbating.

Wouldn't at all be surprised though if we see people complaining about the possibility of v0.130 being "another lesbian update"
i hope we dont meet natalie boyfriend too.(n)
 

yihman1

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I have a lot of complaints about this last update, but I think you're badly misreading the situation. I don't think the reviews of this thread are truly a good barometer for measuring the popularity of AWAM.
Patreon support is a momentum game. It's all about that momentum. There are big snowballs and little snowballs all trying to get more snow. (Snow = Money)

I don't think a game is gaining momentum if it is getting a plethora of negative reviews and comments in the forums. It's slowly losing momentum actually. It's shrinking it's base.

It's all a matter of momentum. The game has been out for a few years and has already built up a lot of momentum. The game is established. Even if this release was so bad that it pissed a ton of people off into writing negative reviews and a few dozen other people into dropping support... Guess what he is still making releases he still has die hard fans hooked that are his die hard supporters. He can afford to make mistakes, and not be game over for AWAM. Even after taking a hit he is still going strong there is a lot of momentum there that won't just vanish after a single unpopular release. It would take several unpopular releases in a row to do significant damage to this games support base. AWAM can go strong for a very long time even if every release for the next two years is majority hate. That's how much momentum this game currently has in it's favor.

On the other hand, If a new game were released or a less than fully established game with the same sort of reviews and forum hate however... Well, there is a long list of abandoned games for this reason and others. New games can't afford to make the same mistakes that well established games can.

Big snowballs gain snow easier than small snowballs, and small snowballs lose snow faster than big snowballs. Had this release for him been on par with our first release of Damaged Goods in terms of reception he would likely have gained several hundreds of new supporters instead of losing dozens. Had we gotten all negative reviews on par with what this latest AWAM release has after our first release and a forum full of hate not love it would be much harder for us to continue and gain support than it is for established games.

If that makes sense.
 

Alley_Cat

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i hope we dont meet natalie boyfriend too.(n)
It wouldn't bother me so much if we knew what characters were for what kinks, and that they weren't so intertwined. I mean, what was the point of Emma being on the lesbian route if her point is to be an LI for Dylan? Or Vicky, if the point was to introduce DeShawn. It would have been far more effective to just have DeShawn instead of Ryan at the gym
 

jamdan

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I put all that in a spoiler, but this type of thing is an even bigger issue that the slow progression because it directly causes the slow progression, even more so than a bunch of characters and routes. The time between updates actually isn't that bad , most "top" games are in the 3-4 month range. Some even longer. But a disproportionately large amount of that time is spent making filler renders, so we get less content that we would expect with this game.

They show the same scene from different angles that are not needed at all. Different angles in sex scenes are one thing, people generally want different angles for that stuff, but if the characters are just sitting or talking it's a waste of time. I'm not aware of any devs, even the really big ones who could definitely do it, make as many filler renders as LP does.

L&P has to reach 10 renders/day. This has to be the next target. He is with this game for 3 years now and I say that in the sense that he has a lot of experience and all this can be seen in his renders
He already does 10/renders per day (or very close to it). The updates usually are around 1000-1500 renders. That is more than enough to get a really good sized update. But that is misleading since a lot of those renders are just different angles of the same scene, as I noted above.
 

yihman1

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He already does 10/renders per day (or very close to it)
I love autistic people. If you go into the reviews of AWAM and read the one from quency77 dated on December 6th 2020 he has done all of the math. I have played this game from the beginning every update, and have not checked quency's math but judging by the chart that he puts there it looks like he is really good at math, and is telling the truth. Drop a box of toothpicks by this guy and he will tell you how many fell bravo to him.

v 0.115 110 days for 466 renders = 4.24 renders per day. The previous update that took 160 days was 8.4 renders per day and the most renders. The only release that approaches the 10 render per day mark is version 0.3 that that squeeked under that milestone at 9.73 per day back in March of 2018. The current 4.24 is the lowest it has ever been. That being said to be fair there were some new environments like the sauna, and the prison that would take a renderer extra time. About 7 renders per day looks to be the norm.
 
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lockerxx

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It wouldn't bother me so much if we knew what characters were for what kinks, and that they weren't so intertwined. I mean, what was the point of Emma being on the lesbian route if her point is to be an LI for Dylan? Or Vicky, if the point was to introduce DeShawn. It would have been far more effective to just have DeShawn instead of Ryan at the gym
by the way natalie is the only one available for the good wife path.
 

dikdik48

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When Sophia will get laid estimation based on the dev progression until now , characters number and story .

1 year : Story and characters intro

2 years :Sophia is more comfortable with her body starting with lesbian temptation .

3 years : Sophia started to show her body a little bit (upper body) with more lesbian temptation with some touching.

4 years :Sophia started to show her body more (lower part, vagiana) with more lesbian temptation and more touching .

5 years : Sophia is more liberated , she allow strangers/son/friend to touch her breasts , with higher lesbian temptation and more touching with more girls .

6 years : Sophia allowed strangers/son/friend touching her private parts with more sexuality involved , lesbian temptation at the highest level , she also experienced orgasm with sister/daughter ..

7 years : Sophia tried her first handjob and she's getting used to it with strangers/son/friend ...
I'm going to shorten from here , lesbian scenes will only get sexier with more girls (threesome ) and tools.

8 years : Probably first blow job , breast ...
9 years : She's now accepting strangers/son/friend to orgasm her
10-11 years : First sex scene .


You can take this seriously or as a joke , you can also expect that the story will never end , frizzing , or story get backward like with dylan (got the opportunity to touch her then one year later nothing more ) , or some characters may get the opportunity to fuck her in 15 -20 years, I think this dev need to make it clear with his supporters making a long term schedule otherwise he's just milking them infinitely .
let's hope we don't die before 15-20 years later
 

Alley_Cat

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by the way natalie is the only one available for the good wife path.
And so the last one available for the GW Threesome. I'm aware. That's precisely why I'm so ranty about character changing routes. It's gone from 4 character that were initially on the lesbian route to now just one

I'm kinda glad it's Nat though, if only becuase of the possibility of Liam catching Sophia and Nat together and Liam being confused since normally it's the husband that gets caught with the maid.
 
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dosenspezi

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Patreon support is a momentum game. It's all about that momentum. There are big snowballs and little snowballs all trying to get more snow. (Snow = Money)

I don't think a game is gaining momentum if it is getting a plethora of negative reviews and comments in the forums. It's slowly losing momentum actually. It's shrinking it's base.

It's all a matter of momentum. The game has been out for a few years and has already built up a lot of momentum. The game is established. Even if this release was so bad that it pissed a ton of people off into writing negative reviews and a few dozen other people into dropping support... Guess what he is still making releases he still has die hard fans hooked that are his die hard supporters. He can afford to make mistakes, and not be game over for AWAM. Even after taking a hit he is still going strong there is a lot of momentum there that won't just vanish after a single unpopular release. It would take several unpopular releases in a row to do significant damage to this games support base. AWAM can go strong for a very long time even if every release for the next two years is majority hate. That's how much momentum this game currently has in it's favor.

On the other hand, If a new game were released or a less than fully established game with the same sort of reviews and forum hate however... Well, there is a long list of abandoned games for this reason and others. New games can't afford to make the same mistakes that well established games can.

Big snowballs gain snow easier than small snowballs, and small snowballs lose snow faster than big snowballs. Had this release for him been on par with our first release of Damaged Goods in terms of reception he would likely have gained several hundreds of new supporters instead of losing dozens. Had we gotten all negative reviews on par with what this latest AWAM release has after our first release and a forum full of hate not love it would be much harder for us to continue and gain support than it is for established games.

If that makes sense.
Guess what? A solid fanbase is not delimited to the loudest people on F95 and suchlike. :whistle:
 

MyHottWife

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The entire summary of the game:
SOPHIA: Oh no, what am i thinking, it’s so wrong.....
But it isn’t bad either.....
Let’s do it.
That’s the only thing the developer has to offer??
That’s ridiculous. And update like that in four months??
i am not even a game maker and i could do a better job, well at least in story writing part. That story is progressing now as if a child is writing it
 
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dikdik48

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i know VN games should more long story,
but as we know sophia surrounded by many men (ex Dylan,sam,neighbour, friend dylan sam,teacher, etc)

and now the story stil in lesbian path.
U know how long the progress will be in future?

it's too long I think, if dev want. He should finished soon the lesbian path and focus to man story (IMO)
 
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abram1

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Why would anyone mention latest reviews on this game, which are absolutely irrelevant and done by neurotics, insecured people or those with inflated anticipation, which turned down to dust?
The one and only important answer to most of your questions is below.

The patrons love the update as far as I know going by posts on his page.
Case closed, thx for attention.

And no, Patreon is not a pendulum. The best example is ICSTOR's Milfy City. That game recieved zero, null, none updates this year. Take off your pink sunglasses and check out, how many people still support that dumpster fire of a game. AWAM has almost 5 times less backers, how about that.

So one game has been updated 3 times with 2000+ renders and most of us here don't pay a dime and still frustrated somehow. L&P has his core audience at this point and that number will grow slowly, but steadily. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes with him and why the update got released practically a month later than it supposed to be out. At least he doesn't have panic attacks or other facepalming excuses, unlike ICSTOR.

One more notion. On his Patreon page he reguraly posts info about development process, not all the devs are that open. At least he deserves credit for that.
 

Zuhl

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They are there at the end of 2017 and have the first 0.15. So in 2023 it will be the same size with + and - deductions each time at 0.30 ok, they should still be there in 3 years. To all who like it, I hope for you that the artist never loses the desire for it and he stays healthy. escht would be annoying for the people for the time 3 years, never to see the end of the story
 

Zuhl

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Ok I wish you all a happy new year and we will see a lot more with the greatest possible update.
 

MattShizzle

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Right, you gave up on this game. You made your choice. Now don't call others delusional or troll them for their choice.
Also, I wonder why did you come here right after the update is out, if you gave up on this game a long time ago.
I had no idea the update came out. I only saw people replied. It didn't come out on F95 until after I went to bed. I stopped patroning after the last update before. I decided I might download again FROM HERE in June 2021 to see if there was anything worthwhile. If not wait another year than again, but after that it would be unredeemable.
 
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