VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[GingerSweetGirl]

The main story is the only thing that LP has to follow at his own. That made the game success in the first place. Concerning to how tell the story maybe needs help or some advices cause i see a lot ideas that should be better structured. Maybe some consultant or someone with writing experience. That's the only weakness that i see in the game. Except for the updates frecuency.

Those are two significant problems though.

Can we back up to this new coaching job? The fact that L&P doesn’t know if this will be pursued, but is introducing it anyway, is a gigantic red flag. It calls into question just how thought out the story is. Because of the slow pace of development, we do not have the luxury of superfluous scenes. If L&P spends time on one or two scenes, and then drops the story arc altogether, how many weeks will we have wasted on development that could have been used elsewhere?

And why introduce it by telling us it may not go anywhere? It both undermines people’s interest (why get too invested if it’s going to be dropped) and looks unprofessional.

I really wish I understood his thought process.

 

[Lust&Pateron]

I really wish I understood his thought process.

oh that one is easy. Drag the story out as long as possible to take the patrons money. You think he has any plan on ending the game in the next 5 years? Are you on crack?

 

[nexer]

oh that one is easy. Drag the story out as long as possible to take the patrons money. You think he has any plan on ending the game in the next 5 years? Are you on crack?

It's not about milking. Anyway, this game, L&P is not going to finish it before 4-5 years. Where the need for milking?

 

[Dan5k74]

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[Mamonetti]

Those are two significant problems though.

Can we back up to this new coaching job? The fact that L&P doesn’t know if this will be pursued, but is introducing it anyway, is a gigantic red flag. It calls into question just how thought out the story is. Because of the slow pace of development, we do not have the luxury of superfluous scenes. If L&P spends time on one or two scenes, and then drops the story arc altogether, how many weeks will we have wasted on development that could have been used elsewhere?

And why introduce it by telling us it may not go anywhere? It both undermines people’s interest (why get too invested if it’s going to be dropped) and looks unprofessional.

I really wish I understood his thought process.

Once today is over, there still will be another 18 playable days left, each one with 9 events. That's 162 events.

Let's say it takes 15/20 events to close secondary paths (it's hard to define secondary path by now, I know), and let's say Sophia has 15/20 sex events (some of them with the same characters) + other 20 transitional events in the final part (during the last days she's not going to be fucking 24/7 like a rabbit, she deserves some rest ). This leaves us with close to 100 events to develop the relationship with the really important characters.

For each main path (GW + lesbian + filthy) there are probably some overlapping events that help her to be more open to have much more fun with Liam (GW), with other women (lesbian) and with other men/boys (filthy). This means part of the job required to have sex with one character is done while following the path of another one that's compatible, such as opening her mind to have sex with boys for Sam while she's in a Dylan event, or something similar with the lesbian path (opening her lesbian side with Patricia will help her lesbian relationship with Ellie in the future, for example).

Having said that, there are still a lot of events to play and I expect L&P to add some secondary small paths (maybe with a couple of events) as long as they have something to offer.

Regards

 

[armion82]

Once today is over, there are another 18 playable days left, each one with 9 events. That's 162 events.

Let's say it takes 15/20 events to close secondary paths (it's hard to define secondary path by now, I know), and let's say Sophia has 15/20 sex events (some of them with the same characters) + other 20 transitional events in the final part (during the last days she's not going to be fucking 24/7 like a rabbit, she deserves some rest ). This leaves us with close to 100 events to develop the relationship with the really important characters.

For each main path (GW + lesbian + filthy) there are probably some overlapping events that help her to be more open to have much more fun with Liam (GW), with other women (lesbian) and with other men/boys (filthy). This means part of the job required to have sex with one character is done while following the path of another one that's compatible, such as opening her mind to have sex with boys for Sam while she's in a Dylan event, or something similar with the lesbian path (opening her lesbian side with Patricia will help her lesbian relationship with Ellie in the future, for example).

Having said that, there are still a lot of events to play and I expect L&P to add some secondary small paths (maybe with a couple of events) as long as they have something to offer.

Regards

You are in some mistake.The day is not over.It was just first of 3 parts.Maybe not even 30% of day 12.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Once today is over, there are another 18 playable days left, each one with 9 events. That's 162 events.

Let's say it takes 15/20 events to close secondary paths (it's hard to define secondary path by now, I know), and let's say Sophia has 15/20 sex events (some of them with the same characters) + other 20 transitional events in the final part (during the last days she's not going to be fucking 24/7 like a rabbit, she deserves some rest ). This leaves us with close to 100 events to develop the relationship with the really important characters.

For each main path (GW + lesbian + filthy) there are probably some overlapping events that help her to be more open to have much more fun with Liam (GW), with other women (lesbian) and with other men/boys (filthy). This means part of the job required to have sex with one character is done while following the path of another one that's compatible, such as opening her mind to have sex with boys for Sam while she's in a Dylan event, or something similar with the lesbian path (opening her lesbian side with Patricia will help her lesbian relationship with Ellie in the future, for example).

Having said that, there are still a lot of events to play and I expect L&P to add some secondary small paths (maybe with a couple of events) as long as they have something to offer.

Regards

Ok but that doesn’t address my point. If he hadnt said this new plot line could be dropped I would agree that he had a plan. But he explicitly doesn’t have a plan. Why introduce something before you have a plan?

 

[Mamonetti]

You are in some mistake.The day is not over.It was just first of 3 parts.Maybe not even 30% of day 12.

I know, I misswrote it (my english could be better).

Let's say Once today is over, there still will be another..

Ok but that doesn’t address my point. If he hadnt said this new plot line could be dropped I would agree that he had a plan. But he explicitly doesn’t have a plan. Why introduce something before you have a plan?

What I wanted to say, related to L&P claiming that the story is already written, is that probably there's a general overview of the most important parts of it but there are still a number gaps to fill. Considering how complex it is, I really doubt L&P has already written 100% of the story, and that's why we can see some traces of improvisation.

 

[nexer]

But what do you expect? If Sophia will start fucking the interest for this game will drop. That's happening in real life. And will happen with this game if L&P wants same number of patrons as now.
There is 4 parts of the day and has to fill with something. Sophia, later, can't fuck all day long

 

[Mamonetti]

Sophia, later, can't fuck all day long

Not yet

 

[kat777]

are any mods available for seeing all possible routes for this game ?

 

[COOLMASTER]

Sorry but L&p didn't answear's about many patreon"s who don't want a ntr road with morello"s boring story's / or story's look's like ntr
and if he count do something about it.
A pts filfy road ? anyone noxw to do this points...But this points brings nothing excepted at one or two moment..
ot just turn sophia as a slut..forst for the little peace of shit at school and now for morello"s brother

But the story's of the main caractere's is waiting and waiting and waiting.....

 

[Deleted member 1188385]

Those are two significant problems though.

Can we back up to this new coaching job? The fact that L&P doesn’t know if this will be pursued, but is introducing it anyway, is a gigantic red flag. It calls into question just how thought out the story is. Because of the slow pace of development, we do not have the luxury of superfluous scenes. If L&P spends time on one or two scenes, and then drops the story arc altogether, how many weeks will we have wasted on development that could have been used elsewhere?

And why introduce it by telling us it may not go anywhere? It both undermines people’s interest (why get too invested if it’s going to be dropped) and looks unprofessional.

I really wish I understood his thought process.

Yeah, that's why I think he needs help, an editor maybe. And if he doesn't want to share his money I pretty sure he can get it for free just by asking his supporters or on this site.

 

[nexer]

Sorry but L&p didn't answear's about many patreon"s who don't want a ntr road with morello"s boring story's / or story's look's like ntr
and if he count do something about it.
A pts filfy road ? anyone noxw to do this points...But this points brings nothing excepted at one or two moment..
ot just turn sophia as a slut..forst for the little peace of shit at school and now for morello"s brother

But the story's of the main caractere's is waiting and waiting and waiting.....

You are talking about Dylan/Ellie?

 

[Alley_Cat]

I think so too and i would really appreciate if it's so, maybe not Morello himself, but some other guy outside of Sophia's main circle. That or lesbian sex of course. I honestly would prefer this to Sophia having sex with Sam or Dylan which it's rather boring. I only started to like Dylan's route because Emma is in there now (or maybe Dylan is in her route?? Don't know for sure) and i love that girl, before that his route was annoying and mostly boring for me.

If the events are well written and had proper build up, i can safely say that i would like nothing more than to see Sophia finally acting as a dirty whore for a change. I would bet on that piece of shit professor (hate him, i want to be wrong), the guys on the club (if we get another event) or even someone still unknow, seeing how LP loves to introduce new characters at a whim (DeShaw especifically needs to die).

If i had to put my tastes about the routes in a list it would be: Ellie > Lesbian Route (Ellie and Patricia included) + Dylan (with Emma) + Corruption > Sam > Any other significant route > literal shit > Dylan (without Emma). To be exact, it's not Dylan that i don't like, just his route. It's just boring and common, it's like playing any other mon-son incest game.

Emma is now in Dylan's route. In order to continue her story, you need to choose something in Dylan's favour, not the other way around.

If by "piece of shit professor" you mean Bennett, who is a teacher, not a professor, I would not bet on him having sex with Sophia at all, let alone being the first. When the Favorite Character poll came out, he wasn't in it, and L&P explicitly said it was because he had no major events in the foreseeable future. And we already know Mrs Torres has advised Sophia she can speak to the school board to get Dylan a pass. The deadline is even 2 days before the earliest point a sex scene with Sophia can occur

 

[AnCaLu]

Until finally a new version came out.

 

[Stepfan]

I just finished the update. I liked the prison scene a lot. It took a long time and will take a long time again but I really like it. Keep up the quality!!

 

[Kodek]

Emma is now in Dylan's route. In order to continue her story, you need to choose something in Dylan's favour, not the other way around.

If by "piece of shit professor" you mean Bennett, who is a teacher, not a professor, I would not bet on him having sex with Sophia at all, let alone being the first. When the Favorite Character poll came out, he wasn't in it, and L&P explicitly said it was because he had no major events in the foreseeable future. And we already know Mrs Torres has advised Sophia she can speak to the school board to get Dylan a pass. The deadline is even 2 days before the earliest point a sex scene with Sophia can occur

Sorry for my mistake. 'Professor' means teacher in my native language, it's literally exactly how it's written. I get confused on times.

I really don't know who will be the first one to fuck Sophia, but i really do think it won't be anyone in her close circle. But i'm glad it's not Bennett.
It's quite curious how i like Aiden for the corruption route, but hate Bennett. Even thought they are using basically the same methods.

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[Mamonetti]

Sorry for my mistake. 'Professor' means teacher in my native language, it's literally exactly how it's written. I get confused on times.

I really don't know who will be the first one to fuck Sophia, but i really do think it won't be anyone in her close circle. But i'm glad it's not Bennett.
It's quite curious how i like Aiden for the corruption route, but hate Bennett. Even thought they are using basically the same methods

+1 for Patricia on this!

 

[COOLMASTER]

You are talking about Dylan/Ellie?

yes and patricia etc ...dylan's sins the football day, how he can react and get assurance about other man's caractere....
the teaching combat, what a bout the class room, what about ? what about ?..
And his husband
And with patricia and his husband, sins the pool....the start with the girl and the gym...
Many caractere"s all lets on or non develpped as a story's.of them and there s interaction...
the progress have non sens...
Anytime you wait for the progress of the last story in the new update and everytime the up date plan with a new story's with out connection...look's you wait about sophia's / vicky's meeting surprise the lesbian girl have a husband and finally if you want a hot scene it s front a unknow man, in the jail...You don't want fallow this road end of game.........bull shit..bull shit bull shit

I recomand that the dev maybe will play imself as he own game sins the begining Maybe he could be open his eyes...

Im agree this dev need's Big help cause more than the slow longer developped, the non developing story"s

well sorry for my english..But it s because i love this promising game that make me really sad that this one turn like this...