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why i think the defence class is more destiny for a dylan/Marie :unsure:
I think that the self defense class will give Dylan some confidence in his ability to fight (likely misplaced if going up against someone who is a fighter but...) and I think that this could become part of the Dylan/Marie story arc which would be great.

I also think that this training could give Dylan the confidence to try to intervene if he saw Logan trying to force Ellie to do something she didn't want to do. We already know that Logan is a bruiser - he lost out on an opportunity when he beat up the son of one of the agency executives during a party. He also likes to drink and doesn't seem bothered about losing control.

So - if Dylan intervened to try to save Ellie (because brothers and sisters will fight but they will also stand together against others who attack any family members), even if he failed and got beaten up, this could continue to help heal the rift between them. Imagine Sophia overhearing this conversation:

Ellie: 'Dylan, why did you step in to save me. You took a major beating from Logan.'

Dylan: 'Ellie you're my Sister - of course I'm going to try to protect you.'

Ellie: 'You know that you could not beat him in a fight right?'

Dylan: 'I didn't think about that - I saw him hurting you and I had to do something to stop him'

Ellie: 'There is no way to hide the damage he did to you... What are you going to say to Mom (Please don't tell her about Logan she thinks)'

Dylan: 'I'll tell her I got into a fight with a couple of guys on the way home from school. Mom will get mad and I might get grounded but I don't care about that.'

Ellie: 'Stop moving your face around, I'm trying to put on the antiseptic.'

Dylan: 'Why are you trying to help me?'

Ellie: 'You got beaten up trying to help me so I figure I can do this to help pay you back... but don't get used to it (said with a bit of a smile on her lips and the first kind-hearted teasing tone Dylan thinks he's ever heard from Ellie towards him)'

Sophia smiles to herself and quietly goes back downstairs to her office.

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Yes - this is the kind of thing that can happen to help heal the rift between Dylan and Ellie.

If you don't like Dylan - I suspect that you Don't want to see this kind of rapprochement.

If you like Dylan - I believe that you will approve of this type of event.

In either case, we'll have to see if L&P advances the story relationships using the self defense classes as stepping stones/a catalyst for relationship changes.
 

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The scene with the black dress at the parlor was so erotic.

Reminded me Wendy Schumacher in Animal Instincts III. :love:
 
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That's why i think that the prison event (as poor as it is) is a huge stepping stone. It's the first time Sophia choose to do something out of her own volition. Choosing to show her panties to Larry after the main event was already over is really relevant.
In fact not only that, but also in the Ellie event the moment she kisses her back (it might be somehow understandable the first kiss given the special circumstances of that moment, but this time there was no need to do that and she could've stopped it if she had wanted to). Looks like kissing and touching each other is going to become normal for them, not to mention other far dirtier things they'll do sooner than later in their private space as long as we keep Ellie's path open.

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I'm on the filthy route, but I wouldn't mind a game with a happy married couple that has good sex. :)
I would like to see the filthy route as a way of opening up Sophia to more exciting experiences to spicen up their sex life without destroying their marriage. You can sorta see this happening in the GW route where they're starting to experiment and Liam would be into having sex in more risky places, so I see plenty of room to grow the gw route should the developer wish to.
My parents have been married for more than 55 years now so I think this plays a huge part when I'm playing a vn that depicts a couple as being happily married as I try to remain as faithful as possible.

Edit: I don't think my post was that bad :D and at least it did open up an interesting discussion regarding the possible direction the GW route could go.
 
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I would like to see the filthy route as a way of opening up Sophia to more exciting experiences to spicen up their sex life without destroying their marriage. You can sorta see this happening in the GW route where they're starting to experiment and Liam would be into having sex in more risky places, so I see plenty of room to grow the gw route should the developer wish to.
My parents have been married for more than 55 years now so I think this plays a huge part when I'm playing a vn that depicts a couple as being happily married as I try to remain as faithful as possible.
It's definitely a trope in adult games that so-called "filthy" characters are equated to cheaters and sluts. It's very rare to see a game with a female protagonist that has a healthy and mature sex life. It's too early to tell for sure how the GW path will go, but it would be great to see a game develop a female protagonist in ways that make her sexually adventurous while also committed to her relationship.
 

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It's definitely a trope in adult games that so-called "filthy" characters are equated to cheaters and sluts. It's very rare to see a game with a female protagonist that has a healthy and mature sex life. It's too early to tell for sure how the GW path will go, but it would be great to see a game develop a female protagonist in ways that make her sexually adventurous while also committed to her relationship.
I believe that's what most of us expect from the GW route. As long as she doesn't cheat (both agree), everything is there to try (swingers, orgies, open marriage, toys, maybe even some soft domination in any/both directions, etc.).

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It will be interesting to see who bring up the subject of"Swingers ect"nad also after trying out the various activities will they both agree to continue with it.
If this event involves Carl and Patricia as I believe, I'm sure you know the answer :sneaky:
 

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I believe that's what most of us expect from the GW route. As long as she doesn't cheat (both agree), everything is there to try (swingers, orgies, open marriage, toys, maybe even some soft domination in any/both directions, etc.).

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In the end I can totally see the GW path being superior to the Filthy path. The trouble with AWAM has been that through its slow development many players drift towards the filthy path just to get some content. Yes, there is sex on the GW path and I don't want to discount that, but I think we would all agree that in real-time the Filthy path has more content. If this game were complete, I would probably be playing it very differently.
 

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In the end I can totally see the GW path being superior to the Filthy path. The trouble with AWAM has been that through its slow development many players drift towards the filthy path just to get some content. Yes, there is sex on the GW path and I don't want to discount that, but I think we would all agree that in real-time the Filthy path has more content. If this game were complete, I would probably be playing it very differently.
I am enjoying the good wife route with playful naughty Sophia and the eager husband who thinks more about pleasuring his wife(sex)than himself.
 

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In the end I can totally see the GW path being superior to the Filthy path. The trouble with AWAM has been that through its slow development many players drift towards the filthy path just to get some content. Yes, there is sex on the GW path and I don't want to discount that, but I think we would all agree that in real-time the Filthy path has more content. If this game were complete, I would probably be playing it very differently.
Regardless of the development pace, it would make sense if we just had a decision point at the beginning of the game where we had to choose between GW and Filthy (with lesbian being optional in both cases). This way the story would be developed in a very different way for each route but with both being interesting.

I know it would be less flexible, but it would close the eternal discussion about who's filthy/lesbian, the player who's made a specific decision or Sophia once the train is on and there's no way to stop it.

Right now L&P seems to be prioritizing the filthy/lesbian routes probably due to the pressure of the patrons, and it has its consequences on the gw route, as expected.

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That's right, Liam has a negative attitude towards Carl. Swinging is out of the question. Only someone outside the family.
Yes, but he likes Patricia and Carl likes Sophia. Both men would get the woman they want in case of swinging.
 

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Regardless of the development pace, it would make sense if we just had a decision point at the beginning of the game where we had to choose between GW and Filthy (with lesbian being optional in both cases). This way the story would be developed in a very different way for each route but with both being interesting.

I know it would be less flexible, but it would close the eternal discussion about who's filthy/lesbian, the player who's made a specific decision or Sophia once the train is on and there's no way to stop it.

Right now L&P seems to be prioritizing the filthy/lesbian routes probably due to the pressure of the patrons, and it has its consequences on the gw route, as expected.

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I agree with you about the decision point at the beginning of the game it would of been a nice idea.
 
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