VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[89tasker]

guys i know its annoyyyying , but can u plz tell me whats in the game for mom son....

When L&P released an early outline, with a development speed that was two to three times faster than his current rate, Dylan sex would occur around the year 2025. So expect to be disappointed for awhile.

Personally, my estimate is 2030 and the game will be 150gb.

I also find it hilarious that he started with ambitions for a 1080 ti.... but is moving much slower with multiple 3090's.

 

[nexer]

jojo ramirez is his name in youtube holy shit he bought 4 3090 cards

So, he has latino roots (Spanish/Central-South America), I suppose born in DE or was a child, but his family has migrated. This explains the presence of some religious suggestions, a prude Sophia as a copy of a close relative. And why not, an artistic sensibility.

 

[nexer]

Different Crazy Shit to mine, but same messages in the Log File. I'm making Scenes under 4GB and also being told the same and running on my CPU's instead. If I switch off CPU in Render Settings I just get Black Screens. Looking at that Video I would say DAZ have ballsed up IRAY and I feel its on purpose to make us all go to use another Render System where we have to pay them yet more money

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[lockerxx]

with old cards people got problems?someone made a big mistake is Daz.

 

[turncoatvolatile]

The game is good but damn, the updates come out so slowly.

 

[Captain Bipto]

The game is good but damn, the updates come out so slowly.

I'm no expert, but I think time is the price we pay for quality rendering

 

[Trash_Panda]

The game is good but damn, the updates come out so slowly.

Said every single damn person who finished the game including myself as well.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I'm no expert, but I think time is the price we pay for quality rendering

I've said it before, but while L&P is striving for the best product possible, he's running up against the law of diminishing return. If you look at the picture I attached, I feel strongly that L&P is somewhere between the point of diminishing returns and the point of negative returns. Even before all the issues with the graphics cards, the updates were taking longer and longer but the improvement in art was ever more subtle.

 

[Captain Bipto]

I've said it before, but while L&P is striving for the best product possible, he's running up against the law of diminishing return. If you look at the picture I attached, I feel strongly that L&P is somewhere between the point of diminishing returns and the point of negative returns. Even before all the issues with the graphics cards, the updates were taking longer and longer but the improvement in art was ever more subtle.

well, first of all, your graph mentions nothing about rendering. SECOND, you tagged me into this like I asked the question, when I was just trying to quell the other guy who might over look your post since he's not tagged to see it

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

well, first of all, your graph mentions nothing about rendering. SECOND, you tagged me into this like I asked the question, when I was just trying to quell the other guy who might over look your post since he's not tagged to see it

Your comment about the relationship between quality and time reminded me of the law of diminishing returns, that's all.

As for "rendering", that would be represented on the vertical axis since it can be considered an "input". So you can imagine as the vertical axis goes higher, the quality of the renders increases. Time is represented on the horizontal axis, so the further to the right you go the longer the time.

I bring this up as part of a general discussion about L&P's development cycle. Many of us, myself included, enjoy the high quality of the game's renderings, and are ok with a trade-off of longer development cycles. But at some point things fall out of balance. Using the chart as an example of diminishing returns, L&P is putting in more and more time to improve the renders, but he's at a point now where he isn't getting the return on investment that he once was. That's my ultimate fear for this game, that L&P is the kind of person who will work twice as hard and twice as long, even if it means getting half the result.

 

[Bane71]

Your comment about the relationship between quality and time reminded me of the law of diminishing returns, that's all.

As for "rendering", that would be represented on the vertical axis since it can be considered an "input". So you can imagine as the vertical axis goes higher, the quality of the renders increases. Time is represented on the horizontal axis, so the further to the right you go the longer the time.

I bring this up as part of a general discussion about L&P's development cycle. Many of us, myself included, enjoy the high quality of the game's renderings, and are ok with a trade-off of longer development cycles. But at some point things fall out of balance. Using the chart as an example of diminishing returns, L&P is putting in more and more time to improve the renders, but he's at a point now where he isn't getting the return on investment that he once was. That's my ultimate fear for this game, that L&P is the kind of person who will work twice as hard and twice as long, even if it means getting half the result.

Simply put in other words, can we say that you are in solidarity with me? Would it be better for him to speed up the work at the same quality than this slowdown that happened due to his efforts to create higher quality renders?

 

[ashitanojoe]

Thanks all.

Now all I need to do is figure out how to have the two signatures side by side, rather than one above the other.

You just need to use the backspace key until both images are together, if you delete some image by mistake you can use ctrl+z.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Simply put in other words, can we say that you are in solidarity with me? Would it be better for him to speed up the work at the same quality than this slowdown that happened due to his efforts to create higher quality renders?

I'm not sure how to answer that. I would say that L&P needs to reevaluate his process and determine if the extra effort is worth the increase in rendering time. Take for example rendering in 1080p. While we all agree that it looks better, does it look better enough to justify any increase in development time?

It's not about "speeding up" per say, it's more about being more judicious with his resources to cut down on superfluous development time.

 

[armion82]

i played this 2 yrs ago and it was the same at that time....

You are not right.After all for last 2 years we get 3 and 1/3 days of the game.I know this is nothing compared to other games or even the first year of this game,but still we are making some progress.Just it is painfully slow.
BTW if you play the game in 2 more years(2023) at that time we probably will get day 16-Ellie's day.

 

[MammaMea]

You are not right.After all for last 2 years we get 3 and 1/3 days of the game.I know this is nothing compared to other games or even the first year of this game,but still we are making some progress.Just it is painfully slow.
BTW if you play the game in 2 more years(2023) at that time we probably will get day 16-Ellie's day.

Bro It was more like metaphorical .... I thought everyone would get it... Didn't knew this would happen

 

[Captain Bipto]

I think you DEFENDERS of the game are taking this quote out of context. Amir was simply adding to his comment to Bacchus' post...
I don't see in any way, that Amir said nothing was added to the game. Added to Bacchus' his answer reads:

Amir11 asked, guys i know its annoyyyying , but can u plz tell me whats in the game for mom son....
Bacchus answered...

Very little. There haven't been any real sexual interactions between them as of yet, just some viewing of each other's body parts (Dylan has seen Sophia's naked tits and she's seen his erect dick), but no physical touching, not even kissing, at this stage. It's mostly been a lot of teasing and building of sexual tension/desire.

Then Amir added...

i played this 2 yrs ago and it was the same at that time....

meaning there wasn't any MOM AND SON sex in the game...

and you guys are trying to tear his comment apart. I don't get it. Because there isn't any mom and son sex in the game yet. So, why

 

[grumpbert]

God damn when does the game get going im at day 3 and by god Sophia is possibly the biggest prude/hypocrite i have ever seen in a porn game .Is this written by a mormon pervert that thinks adult sister's dont know exactly what their naked bodies look like .Also the conversations are just over written no one talks like that in the real world or in porn worlds either for that matter.
Also also whats with the huge pauses between scenes i swear ive spend more time waiting on black screens than actual gameplay.

 

[Bane71]

I think you DEFENDERS of the game are taking this quote out of context. Amir was simply adding to his comment to Bacchus' post...
I don't see in any way, that Amir said nothing was added to the game. Added to Bacchus' his answer reads:

Amir11 asked, guys i know its annoyyyying , but can u plz tell me whats in the game for mom son....
Bacchus answered...

Then Amir added...

meaning there wasn't any MOM AND SON sex in the game...

and you guys are trying to tear his comment apart. I don't get it. Because there isn't any mom and son sex in the game yet. So, why

We are not defenders of the game. Personally, I don't like that so much time passes between updates! But the metaphors, hyperboles, asserting that nothing has changed in the game in two years, do not reflect reality. Therefore, we clarify the facts about some events in the game's plot, nothing more. There is no desire to tear anyone apart.

You yourself need not exaggerate when you try to reprimand others.

 

[ashitanojoe]

Besides the slow development, also there's another serious topic that I mentioned days ago, but that we are not talking about it too much. It seems that the dev refuses to advance in the branches that lead to sex and prefers to create bigger lewd scenes in branches that will not lead to sex soon. Is he teasing us?

Is L&P teasing us or the story really requires this slow pace?

My points:

1. Does L&P delay intentionally the sex scenes?

- Alyssa and Sophia had an intense moment during the Sybian's scene and when they were getting closer, L&P decided that the boys should interrump in that exact moment. Same trick that he had already used when Sophia and Ellie were kissing in the shower. Why? We couldn't see not even some kissing and groping between them. Now we need to wait to more other scenes to justify Alyssa and Sophia having sex together.

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- Time ago L&P showed us a scene where Sophia touches herself seeing Nathalie masturbating. Sophia heard Nathalie saying her name during the act. So, Sophia is attracted to Nathalie and she knows that Nathalie likes her. But since then, many uploads later, L&P has not progressed in that storyline, he has presented several intrascendental situations with other characters, some of them new, instead. Why? We know that they will need more scenes together to build a justification for a sex scene, but L&P has given us nothing so far, despite of Nathalie is working in Sophia's house.

2. Has L&P given intentionally bigger lewd scenes to characters who will be more difficult for Sophia to have sex with in the future?

- Perhaps the scene where Sophia has gone further has been the one with Julia. But she is the girlfriend of her daughter and Sophia considers her still as a kid. These things let us believe that a sex scene with Julia will not happen in the near future. On the other hand, if Sophia and Alyssa would have had a scene like that, a sex scene between them would be near: Alyssa is single and has the Sophia's age.

- Sophia finally had sex with other man but Liam in the last update, well... at least in the imaginary spectrum. But it happened with someone behind bars. Which are the chances that Sophia have sex with a prisoner in the near future? A scene like that could be done for someone like Bennet time ago, if L&P instead of making him the most hated character and a grown version of Aiden, would have making of him a charismatic, handsome and bad boy character. Then, we would have a sex scene sooner.

What do you think?

 

[Captain Bipto]

We are not defenders of the game. Personally, I don't like that so much time passes between updates! But the metaphors, hyperboles, asserting that nothing has changed in the game in two years, do not reflect reality. Therefore, we clarify the facts about some events in the game's plot, nothing more. There is no desire to tear anyone apart.

You yourself need not exaggerate when you try to reprimand others.

and again, you miss the point, he was obviously just referring to sex between Sophia and Dylan