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DrDougDoesDOS

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When a Game is complete you'll be able to play it start to finish and will have a completely different view by then. As it stands we are all playing many Games (or making) in spurts drawn out.

When you watched a TV Show like 24 you watched it in weekly episodes (not in bulk like today). But play all episodes back to back in actual 24 hours (with toilet breaks) it feels totally different. But after one Season you wait an entire year to watch the next Season and everyone's forgotten what the hell happened the previous year that's a natural thing.

I just played JOHN the other day and couldn't remember half what was going on as I'm working my own Game, that's just normal as memory is not perfect :sneaky:
 

hmc15

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I've said it before, but while L&P is striving for the best product possible, he's running up against the law of diminishing return. If you look at the picture I attached, I feel strongly that L&P is somewhere between the point of diminishing returns and the point of negative returns. Even before all the issues with the graphics cards, the updates were taking longer and longer but the improvement in art was ever more subtle.
Doesn't apply in this situation. This game may very well be the single best game in entire AVN genre. Although current supporters will grow tired of L&P's shit this game would experience significant success on a larger platform, such as Steam, and a cohort of new fans would sustain progress for years to come. But the current fanbase very well be nearing their point of diminishing returns.
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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Doesn't apply in this situation. This game may very well be the single best game in entire AVN genre. Although current supporters will grow tired of L&P's shit this game would experience significant success on a larger platform, such as Steam, and a cohort of new fans would sustain progress for years to come. But the current fanbase very well be nearing their point of diminishing returns.
You're going to need to explain why what you're saying is different from what I'm saying.
 
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Alley_Cat

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so this game needs a better writer, an editor and some brunettes :giggle:
Have you approached L&P and offered your services?
So I'm confused, are Cathy and Andy appearing in this next update or something?
There hasn't been anything to even suggest that, so no. As far as I'm aware, the Cathy and Andy storyline got dropped early, when L&P decided not to use Liam as an MC, since the original idea was to be able to play from his POV as well.
just a shout out to Old dog and Bane71 for helping me figure out posting signature/banners,
thanks guys you were great help
You might find the "Montserrat" font useful, as that's the one used for the "F95 zone" and "A Wife and Mother Fan" often used in sigs. If you want to add "Team Aiden" to a sig, PM wynlard, as they're the one that made the format Old dog uses for his sig.
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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There hasn't been anything to even suggest that, so no. As far as I'm aware, the Cathy and Andy storyline got dropped early, when L&P decided not to use Liam as an MC, since the original idea was to be able to play from his POV as well.
Ok, that's what I thought, but all the discussion up above got me thinking that they were making an new appearance.

It's too bad they got cut from the story, but it was the right move. There are already a lot of storylines, so cutting something was necessary. Too bad, they're beautiful models.
 

Alley_Cat

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alley cat deff has an prob. comes into chat and in 1 post is looking to start an argument with 3 ppl...

you know, I would offer my services, but from what I hear, L&P prefers to go it alone. so if it fails, he only has himself to blame.

and with that, I'm done with this thread. too many people looking to argue, EVERY SINGLE DAY
I'm not looking to argue, I'm looking to encourage you. From what I hear, L&P doesn't want to go it alone, it just looks that way because he has high standards. From what I hear, he actually has two people working with him already, and is not the "lone wolf" I, and others have in the past made him out to be. The only reason I believe he doesn't give a fuck about what I think (quite rightly) is that I'm not a patron, so have given him to reason to care.

If you think you can improve the game, you really should email L&P with an offer to help. Just email lust_and_passion@yahoo.com, you don't even need to be a patron.

Ok, that's what I thought, but all the discussion up above got me thinking that they were making an new appearance.

It's too bad they got cut from the story, but it was the right move. There are already a lot of storylines, so cutting something was necessary. Too bad, they're beautiful models.
I am increasingly starting to believe that L&P had a great story to tell of a husband and wife, but particularly as time as gone on, has realised that only a few people were interested (13 of around 1650, last I had numbers for). And so, as ancienregimele puts it, the slow, perhaps inevitable "Dylanisation" of the story has taken place (and Liam storylines were cut), as the lure of increasing money has taken their price.

I guess my only real concern is whether or not I get my lesbian route by endgame. If Sophia and/or Ellie has to fuck Dylan in the storyline, then I'm out. If it's an option, then I'll probably still support the game.
 

Bane71

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Ok, that's what I thought, but all the discussion up above got me thinking that they were making an new appearance.

It's too bad they got cut from the story, but it was the right move. There are already a lot of storylines, so cutting something was necessary. Too bad, they're beautiful models.
Really very sorry! Just disagree with you that there are a lot of storylines. I would say that few people are working on creating AWAM. :(
 

WhiteWolf619

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We had a perfect way already in the twist, then he went and retconned it away.
Well i was thinking Sam and Dylan are playing basketball and the ball bounces out on to the road, Dylan chases after it and that old delivery driver is coming up the road, Sophia is outside watering the plants in something a little revealing, the driver is too busy watching her and doesn't see Dylan and slams right into him.
 
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Captain Bipto

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Well i was thinking Sam and Dylan are playing basketball and the ball bounces out on to the road, Dylan chases after it and that old delivery driver is coming up the road, Sophia is outside watering the plants in something a little revealing, the driver is too busy watching her and doesn't see Dylan and slams right into him.
I was thinking we give the whole thing a complete reboot...
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GingerSweetGirl

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I am increasingly starting to believe that L&P had a great story to tell of a husband and wife, but particularly as time as gone on, has realised that only a few people were interested (13 of around 1650, last I had numbers for). And so, as ancienregimele puts it, the slow, perhaps inevitable "Dylanisation" of the story has taken place (and Liam storylines were cut), as the lure of increasing money has taken their price.

I guess my only real concern is whether or not I get my lesbian route by endgame. If Sophia and/or Ellie has to fuck Dylan in the storyline, then I'm out. If it's an option, then I'll probably still support the game.
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall around L&P. If your theory is correct, then I imagine it's possible that AWAM is proceeding along more quickly that he originally planned. If he's giving in to fan pressure, then it could be possible that there's actually been more sexual content by this point than he originally planned. That would be wild if his original plan was a great story about a husband and wife, and he ended up changing gears to make people happy....and they still complained about the speed. I wonder if in private he think "You guys have no idea how slow the game originally was."
 
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