VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[farrah]

So, Dylan path has a lot of fans because includes different fetishes.

Some of them love NTR

 

[nexer]

Some of them love NTR

Right, included this.

 

[ancienregimele]

I have to ask the obvious but why does everyone like Dylan? I mean seriously what is his appeal?

Thankfully it's not everyone but it's a sufficiently big fanbase for L&P to decide to make Dylan the ubiquitous 'second MC' he's now become. This has gradually been to the detriment of those who don't want a second MC but now the Dylanisation process is in overdrive. It's so glaringly obvious that it's almost embarassing. There are a number of reasons I can think of as to why he has a loyal following. Age is the first aspect & I believe that many fans are fairly, or very young, which means they can identify with him, to some extent. I don't necessarily mean that they fancy their own mothers but that they are still learning, forming their characters & encountering the trials & tribulations of the teenage, or even early 20's years.

Dylan has become a sort of hero who they want to see win & if this means, "plowing Sophia's ass," then Dylan's goals are their goals. Then there's also his actual goals he scores on the pitch. Sporting heros...most of us have had them & again it's about winning.

Then there's possession as a factor. What greater proof is there that you have possessed a woman than to make her pregnant, is the reasoning & it's understandable. This, to me, would account for the otherwise inexplicable wish of some fans for Dylan to get Sophia pregnant. This fetish, I believe, applies to hormonal heterosexual young men who've perhaps never seen a naked woman in the flesh, certainly not a 38 year old &/or never made love but if they have, are unlikely to have made a woman pregnant. I have never detected any insight from preggo fans into what it actually means to be co-responsible for the creation of another living being. Rather pregnancy is just another erotic trope. Rude awakenings will occur later in life, no doubt.

Speaking of possession, there's the awkward issue of not wanting anybody else to possess your mother. Well, I'm not going to get into the Oedipus complex because it could cause offence but the idea of "keeping it in the family," (not my words), obviously resonates, as it has been advocated by Dylan fans, in one form or another. This also touches on the well known father-son rivalry & at its' simplest boils down to, 'replace the father, become the man of the house.'

Anyway that's plenty for now. I've already written enough to attract the opprobrium of dedicated Dylan fans whether they fall into any of the above categories, or not. Dylan fans tend to express disapproval by the easy expedient of awarding facepalms. Simply not wholeheartedly approving of every appearance by Dylan, or saying anything which is not in praise of Dylan can generate a facepalm, which also leads me to believe in the age bloc of most Dylan fans. There are other reasons that I believe account for Dylan's popularity but we'll maybe revisit this topic. I don't hate Dylan, it's just his constant lusting after his own mother I can't stand. I used to avoid it. Maybe I still can....some of the time.

 

[farrah]

I don't know how old you all are. But could you perhaps take yourselves back to your youth when you were 16 years old? So from what I read here, you were the full go-getters, you picked up one girl after another.
I don't believe a word you say. When you're 16, you're more the shy one. Of course, it also depends on the environment. Do you have older siblings, brothers from whom you can learn something, etc.?
So don't always act as if Dylan, at 16 (that's how old Dylan is according to L&P), already has to be a grown man!

I dunno man, but he’s rich handsome, has sports achievements and other skills. He just can't be a virgin. More like he's 14 years old, but even so, many of his skills look some fantastic for this age

 

[Hlextor]

...or saying anything which is not in praise of Dylan can generate a facepalm, which also leads me to believe in the age bloc of most Dylan fans.

Please don't act like a victim here. Say what you want to say. This is not North Korea or Russia. As long as we talk about pro and contra Dylan in a reasonable way without defaming Dylan, I find every discussion interesting.

 

[WhiteWolf619]

Thankfully it's not everyone but it's a sufficiently big fanbase for L&P to decide to make Dylan the ubiquitous 'second MC' he's now become. This has gradually been to the detriment of those who don't want a second MC but now the Dylanisation process is in overdrive. It's so glaringly obvious that it's almost embarassing. There are a number of reasons I can think of as to why he has a loyal following. Age is the first aspect & I believe that many fans are fairly, or very young, which means they can identify with him, to some extent. I don't necessarily mean that they fancy their own mothers but that they are still learning, forming their characters & encountering the trials & tribulations of the teenage, or even early 20's years.

Dylan has become a sort of hero who they want to see win & if this means, "plowing Sophia's ass," then Dylan's goals are their goals. Then there's also his actual goals he scores on the pitch. Sporting heros...most of us have had them & again it's about winning.

Then there's possession as a factor. What greater proof is there that you have possessed a woman than to make her pregnant, is the reasoning & it's understandable. This, to me, would account for the otherwise inexplicable wish of some fans for Dylan to get Sophia pregnant. This fetish, I believe, applies to hormonal heterosexual young men who've perhaps never seen a naked woman in the flesh, certainly not a 38 year old &/or never made love but if they have, are unlikely to have made a woman pregnant. I have never detected any insight from preggo fans into what it actually means to be co-responsible for the creation of another living being. Rather pregnancy is just another erotic trope. Rude awakenings will occur later in life, no doubt.

Speaking of possession, there's the awkward issue of not wanting anybody else to possess your mother. Well, I'm not going to get into the Oedipus complex because it could cause offence but the idea of "keeping it in the family," (not my words), obviously resonates, as it has been advocated by Dylan fans, in one form or another. This also touches on the well known father-son rivalry & at its' simplest boils down to, 'replace the father, become the man of the house.'

Anyway that's plenty for now. I've already written enough to attract the opprobrium of dedicated Dylan fans whether they fall into any of the above categories, or not. Dylan fans tend to express disapproval by the easy expedient of awarding facepalms. Simply not wholeheartedly approving of every appearance by Dylan, or saying anything which is not in praise of Dylan can generate a facepalm, which also leads me to believe in the age bloc of most Dylan fans. There are other reasons that I believe account for Dylan's popularity but we'll maybe revisit this topic. I don't hate Dylan, it's just his constant lusting after his own mother I can't stand. I used to avoid it. Maybe I still can....some of the time.

It started out as a good story now it might as well be called A Mother And Son. Don't even see the point of writing any more story might as well just get it over with and let Dylan fuck her and be done with it.

 

[Hlextor]

I dunno man, but he’s rich handsome, has sports achievements and other skills. He just can't be a virgin. More like he's 14 years old, but even so, many of his skills look some fantastic for this age

I know some of my daughters' friends who, when they were 16, behaved strangely. Not in the way you'd expect. Dylan is no weirder than boys that age. Believe me.

 

[Ntwaidumella]

Ellie and Sam path would be interesting... with Aiden too

 

[farrah]

Ellie and Sam path would be interesting... with Aiden too

Forget about it. There are no more paths without Dylan

 

[ancienregimele]

I don't know how old you all are. But could you perhaps take yourselves back to your youth when you were 16 years old? So from what I read here, you were the full go-getters, you picked up one girl after another.
I don't believe a word you say. When you're 16, you're more the shy one. Of course, it also depends on the environment. Do you have older siblings, brothers from whom you can learn something, etc.?
So don't always act as if Dylan, at 16 (that's how old Dylan is according to L&P), already has to be a grown man!

OK, I've taken myself back to my youth. Following fashion without the money to do it, buying 45s that were ex-jukebox, hence cheap, (& scratched). Talking about film stars, (mainly women), football (soccer), playing football, going to the match, snooker, youth club, YMCA, school, night-times at the cafe, night-times on the street, pinball, (the only sport I was really good at) etc. I have to stop before I get sentimental...

If you scan my words again you'll see that I refer to the horrible moment you get turned down by a girl. This was not imagination it was based on experience. If you want to date girls you have to learn to take rejection, hard though this can be. If, like Dylan, you don't attempt to get to know a girl the shyness, lack of confidence etc. becomes a self-perpetuating vicious circle. Again this is based on experience, so no I didn't pick up one girl after another but I did alright. At 16 I had at least 7 or 8 girlfriends in my past plus a number of one-off dates. I wasn't as "cookie-cutter" handsome as Dylan but in those days I really wasn't bad looking either & when I was on form I had what we termed, "the patter." How is Dylan likely to acquire any techniques if he doesn't try?

I absolutely don't expect him to act like a grown man. Realism is becoming scarcer in this game & that would just be silly. Myself & others just want him to act the age he is.

 

[farrah]

It started out as a good story now it might as well be called A Mother And Son. Don't even see the point of writing any more story might as well just get it over with and let Dylan fuck her and be done with it.

I'm more afraid that the game will looks like the BB, Dylan will fuck everyone around and that's it. And Sophia will fade into the background by that time

 

[nexer]

I know some of my daughters' friends who, when they were 16, behaved strangely. Not in the way you'd expect. Dylan is no weirder than boys that age. Believe me.

L&P has started with a younger Dylan, 14-15 years old, but Patreon rules have raised his age. What doesn't fit is, IMO, his sexual "preferences", first comes first, have sex, then NTR/cuckold and the like.
I understand that L&P wants NTR/cuckold in his game, which doesn't fit with Liam ( I suppose NTR/cuckold means sexual desire which Liam lacks), but burden poor Dylan with all this.....

 

[lockerxx]

day 13 a very dylan day
dylan/sophie
dylan/ellie (sorry farrah)
dylan/amber
dylan/sophie/Marie/Claire
dylan/emma

and dylan/dylan

 

[farrah]

day 13 a very dylan day
dylan/sophie
dylan/ellie (sorry farrah)
dylan/amber
dylan/sophie/Marie/Claire
dylan/emma

and dylan/dylan

Can we get dylan/dylan/dylan later?

 

[ancienregimele]

Please don't act like a victim here. Say what you want to say. This is not North Korea or Russia. As long as we talk about pro and contra Dylan in a reasonable way without defaming Dylan, I find every discussion interesting.

I hear what you're saying but you'd be surprised what I've been facepalmed for.

 

[nexer]

Can we get dylan/dylan/dylan later?

Don't be sad, L&P will compensate you later. Next Sunday, Sophia and Patricia horseback riding ... it's going to be a titty soup

 

[Holy Bacchus]

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First of all, there will very likely be a time jump of one week after the current playable day, when I also will check and edit some things in my script, making sure to not forget anything. So, this preview might be only temporarily and could change a little bit later. But it also could stay like that.
Anyway, this is how it looks for now:

Morning
1) Literature lesson (Aiden's 4th task) + a bonus scene
2) Don Morello (optional)
Noon
1) 2nd side job 3rd day
2) Dylan/Ellie OR: Dylan comes home from the boarding school for the weekend. What will happen here depends on if the "pool chicken fight" on day 10 took place or not!
3) "Coach Sophia"
Afternoon
1) Sophia/Sam
2) Sophia/Claire/Marie (with Dylan)
Evening
1) Sophia/Dylan
2) Sophia/Dylan OR: Dylan/Ellie OR: Dylan/Emma

Well, I guess I'll have to play Sophia/Dylan first then Sophia/Ellie. I am surprised that a Sophia/Dylan/Patricia didn't show up. That could be for another time. But a good chunk of the day is Dylan on the back end.

This seems alright to me. Dylan sorely needs some advancement with Sophia especially given how far along Ellie is with her, so this day looks like it will do a lot to catch him up to her.

The only thing that's slightly puzzling is the potential double Sophia/Dylan events for the evening. I can only assume the 2nd one will be based on choices pertaining to the other 2, i.e. if you're not doing the Dylan/Emma path then it will default to the Dylan/Elle event if you're on that path, and if you're not on either of those you'll get a Dylan/Sophia event if you're on that path or perhaps if you make certain choices in the previous event.

 

[Hlextor]

etc. I have to stop before I get sentimental...

Well

 

[farrah]

Don't be sad, L&P will compensate you later. Next Sunday, Sophia and Patricia riding ... it's going to be a titty soup

You forgot Ellie in this scene. And to make the set as complete, Liam will sadly look out the window and cry

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Don't be sad, L&P will compensate you later. Next Sunday, Sophia and Patricia riding ... it's going to be a titty soup

It's not the next Sunday, if memory serves it's supposed to be the upcoming Sunday which makes L&P's talk of "a time jump of one week" rather confusing.

You forgot Ellie in this scene. And to make the set as complete, Liam will sadly look out the window and cry

Pretty sure Patricia only invited Sophia and it's just supposed to be an event for the 2 of them and Patricia's ranch-owner friend.