Atton563

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It seems that the defense class he's taking is going to be geared toward the side story.
The self defence class could come in to play with Marie the Dylan POV of the yoga event has her flirting/teasing him and she said she does MMA maybe they get together to spar and a relationship could develop from that?
 

nexer

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Dylan's path remains a mystery. The only way I can see right now how both of them could interact sexually like both
is the exhibitionism (Sophia) / voyeurism (Dylan) way. But that would not satisfy anyone in this forum. Dylan could
just show up anywhere if the player allows it.
I want to be clear, I'm more of a Pro-Dylan, but this route would be the worst of all possible routes for me too.
Because then Dylan would remain the loser he now appears as. The possible scenario in which the mother teaches the son
sexually would be more than sad. And all Dylan haters here would be right that it would be better to let the bus run
over Dylan.
The possibility of Dylan seeing his mother on the motorcycle, trying to confront her, and spying on her in the future
would also be a way as a voyeur, protector and later as a secret participant. Would be just as shit and I think it
was excluded.
In summary, I understand all those who say sex with Dylan was the lowest point in Sophia's development at the moment.
And I hope the developer still has surprises ready to teach you better.
There are solutions, you can find them on the liberotica , all possible scenarios.
Everyone's talking about Dylan but not about Ellie. Up to a point it's ok, but if they go to mutual masturbation or sex, it's not ok.
I think Ellie will be first and Dylan will use the open door, either surprise them or it will be natural after Ellie breaks the ice.
I'm not ruling out Dylan witnessing something between Sophia and Sam/Zac and participating/continuing.
 

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In summary, I understand all those who say sex with Dylan was the lowest point in Sophia's development at the moment.
And I hope the developer still has surprises ready to teach you better.
Since it's pretty much inevitable, I do indeed hope L&P can get there in a way that doesn't mean Sophia is no longer Sophia. Based on what's there at the moment, not sure it's possible.
 

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I'm not ruling out Dylan witnessing something between Sophia and Sam/Zac and participating/continuing.
Surley Sofia would have to be completely broken to allow Dylan to join in with Sam/Zac its a very big step for her to take to do something with her son in front of people, She's only just started to wear bikini's around him. Continuing or trying to guilt trip her could work though, Somthing along the lines of "But Mom I thought you loved me how come you do that stuff with Sam/Zac but not me?". Guilt tripping could also work with the Ellie shower stuff if her every found out about it.
 

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The self defence class could come in to play with Marie the Dylan POV of the yoga event has her flirting/teasing him and she said she does MMA maybe they get together to spar and a relationship could develop from that?
That is a strong possibility. Marie may be one that could end up with Dylan in the end, if the reader chooses that path.
 

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Maybe it's time for me to rewatch Spanking the Monkey to see how what (I thought at the time) was a plausible story about a son who ultimately boinks his mom played out. Maybe I'll rethink my position on if/how Dylan gets in there.

Time to do some research...
 
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nexer

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Surley Sofia would have to be completely broken to allow Dylan to join in with Sam/Zac its a very big step for her to take to do something with her son in front of people, She's only just started to wear bikini's around him. Continuing or trying to guilt trip her could work though, Somthing along the lines of "But Mom I thought you loved me how come you do that stuff with Sam/Zac but not me?". Guilt tripping could also work with the Ellie shower stuff if her every found out about it.
If you're playing bikini-show again, the scene when both Sam and Dylan are" "feeling the fabric" is the foundation to build on.
The problem was with Sam, very passive. A more active Sam and a more corrupt Sophia would end the show differently.
 
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nexer

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Maybe it's time for me to rewatch Spanking the Monkey to see how what (I thought at the time) was a plausible story about a son who ultimately boinks his mom played out. Maybe I'll rethink my position on if/how Dylan gets in there.

Time to do some research...
I saw some scenes a while back. Surprising was how easily his mother got over the incident. Harder with the boy.
 

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That is a strong possibility. Marie may be one that could end up with Dylan in the end, if the reader chooses that path.
Yes, but here there are clear signs that Sophia is also interested in Maria. Conversely, Maria was clearly interested in Dylan. Which of the two, Dylan or Sophia, will be successful. I would bet on Sophia.
 

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Which of the two, Dylan or Sophia, will be successful. I would bet on Sophia.
I realise that Sofia is the MC and all but if Dylan has shown intrest and Maria has returned the intrest then how would Sofia have a shot without going out of her way to hit on her? Also just because Sofia has got lesbian temptation points from looking doesnt mean she will end up doing anything with her, I doubt Sofia is gonna have sex with everyone how she got a LT or filthy point from right?
 

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If you're playing bikini-show again, the scene when both Sam and Dylan are" "feeling the fabric" is the foundation to build on.
The problem was with Sam, very passive. A more active Sam and a more corrupt Sophia would end the show differently.
I'm yet to play the Dylan and Sam show becuse i just hate Sam so damn much, But he would almost be guarenteed to be my most liked male if Dylan wasn't in the game since he just comes off as a really bad friend to me but otherwise yeah good albeit pervy character.

Also I really think your underestimating just how corrupted she would have to be to have any kind of sexual encounter with Dylan or Ellie in front of somebody especially if they know they are related it's the ultimate taboo and then add in another person in to the mix. Although a encouter between Dylan,Sofia and Ellie could be plausible under teaching her virgin kids on top of the fact Ellie seems to have shown she kinda likes Dylan since his haircut and helping with her laptop.
 

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Maybe it's time for me to rewatch Spanking the Monkey to see how what (I thought at the time) was a plausible story about a son who ultimately boinks his mom played out. Maybe I'll rethink my position on if/how Dylan gets in there.

Time to do some research...
Here do some research with a true story:

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Curious as to whether your opinion changes :unsure:
 

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At the end of version 115 Sophia is at 80+ corruption point if we compare it to other games that's a pretty high level for some stuff but she is more opened on lesbian route as compare to male route maybe L&P has a thing for lesbian
Don't know when we can witness a kiss scene of Sophia from male characters of the game
 

nexer

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I'm yet to play the Dylan and Sam show becuse i just hate Sam so damn much, But he would almost be guarenteed to be my most liked male if Dylan wasn't in the game since he just comes off as a really bad friend to me but otherwise yeah good albeit pervy character.

Also I really think your underestimating just how corrupted she would have to be to have any kind of sexual encounter with Dylan or Ellie in front of somebody especially if they know they are related it's the ultimate taboo and then add in another person in to the mix. Although a encouter between Dylan,Sofia and Ellie could be plausible under teaching her virgin kids on top of the fact Ellie seems to have shown she kinda likes Dylan since his haircut and helping with her laptop.
Ok, don't peep :giggle:
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If that seemed natural to you, what's to come is not likely to shock you.
 

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At the end of version 115 Sophia is at 80+ corruption point if we compare it to other games that's a pretty high level for some stuff but she is more opened on lesbian route as compare to male route maybe L&P has a thing for lesbian
Don't know when we can witness a kiss scene of Sophia from male characters of the game
His girlfriend may be advising him on women's issues. :giggle:
This path is more fluid and the players reacted very well despite the very fast advance.
 

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Ok, don't peep :giggle:
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If that seemed natural to you, what's to come is not likely to shock you.
Granted thats not what I'd call natural but it's still leaps and bounds away from BJs or even sex in front of somebody.

Also if I was Dylan and Sam asked if he could feel my moms binkin while she was wearing it I'm pretty sure I'd send his teeth down his throat, At the very least I'd be upset espically since Dylan has asked that Sam stop checking Sofia out and calling her a milf, My Dylan don't like dudes talking about his mom he's kinda possesive.
 

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His girlfriend may be advising him on women's issues. :giggle:
This path is more fluid and the players reacted very well despite the very fast advance.
Yeah pool scene with Ellie was and Julia was hot and I think Sophia has more Affection towards women's then man the way she interacted with Alyssa and Patricia was hot if Dylan hadn't come at that moment on Alyssa door Sophia could have kissed her
 

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Are there still no actual sex scenes yet? Or do you have to play in very specific ways to get them or something?

Like, there's one scene with Dylan walking in while she's taking a bath, which I can't pick, even with picking literally every +dylan decision I don't have enough rep to get it, I doubt that one led to sex but Iwas wondering if there were any other scenes like that, that clearly had some other hidden choice/path you had to take to get them.
 
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