Sabertooth__

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Thanks Alley-Cat but I already know all this.

But it's plausible that Patricia and Ellie are used as a pretext to push Sophia towards Sam.
Have fun a bit like the Nightclub.

As for Julia, considering how Neil behaves with her, I doubt that he will allow his daughter to go there.
But hey, why not.

Regarding drinking, Sam still has a driving license and then, until proven guilty, we are not in Australia.

It is still possible despite everything, right?
Of course everything is possible. We didn't get 30+ Sam points for nothing. As per my opinion we might get an option to either spend more time with Ellie or alone time with Sophia. Though of course almost everyone will go with Sophia. So something is likely to happen at that event.
 

john_jones21

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It would be a nice change of pace to start with a woman who is already on the threshold of going over the edge into slut territory, or can choose to reign herself in.
I think Jessica O'Neil's Hard News is probably the best example of a somewhat realistic starting point. Good Girl Gone Bad is excellent and starts with a realistically naive character. Our Red String (the second game by the same author as GGGB) is also great for realistic characters that have reasonable options available to them.

With AWAM I think one of the great aspects is Sohpia is always herself. She doesn't see a dick and suddenly become overcome with lust. Most porn games and most porn in general falls into a mode of plot setup and then the sex happens but the sex part could be anyone from any setup so it all comes out the same.
 

Hlextor

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But it's plausible that Patricia and Ellie are used as a pretext to push Sophia towards Sam.
Have fun a bit like the Nightclub.
I don't know. I can't imagine Ellie and Patricia "pushing" Sophia to have a bit fun with Sam? The guy (name?) in the nightclub was an adult. The situation yes, could become similar. But with Sam... no or? Ellie/Patricia pushing her? :unsure:
 

Catherine1972

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I think Jessica O'Neil's Hard News is probably the best example of a somewhat realistic starting point. Good Girl Gone Bad is excellent and starts with a realistically naive character. Our Red String (the second game by the same author as GGGB) is also great for realistic characters that have reasonable options available to them.

With AWAM I think one of the great aspects is Sohpia is always herself. She doesn't see a dick and suddenly become overcome with lust. Most porn games and most porn in general falls into a mode of plot setup and then the sex happens but the sex part could be anyone from any setup so it all comes out the same.
With a lot of games, a (rather shaky) story is the pretext for sex scenes. Looking at the presentation of a game, we see the multiplication of scenes, positions, possibilities of choice of partners. Just say yes or no. Be careful, I am not criticizing, I am just giving a very summarized (and perhaps simplistic) version of the image that these games can give.

With AWAM or JOHN, there is such a construction of characters that sex becomes the culmination of something. JOHN's scenario (with concrete journalistic investigation) cannot be compared to Sophia's evolutionary story, I am aware of that. For Jessica, choosing her partners according to her (our) desires and needs, leads to intense scenes. Sophia could follow the same path. She is not yet ready to surrender, but desire and lust lie in wait and overwhelm her. Which will give even more strength to his first time.
 

Scarlet56

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I don't know. I can't imagine Ellie and Patricia "pushing" Sophia to have a bit fun with Sam? The guy (name?) in the nightclub was an adult. The situation yes, could become similar. But with Sam... no or? Ellie/Patricia pushing her? :unsure:
A little Alcohol (Sophia needs very little) + nice song from Sam, the atmosphere. We never know.
It can touch Sophia like it touched her during the cello lesson.
Do we ever know.
A speculation like any other after all :)
 

john_jones21

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With a lot of games, a (rather shaky) story is the pretext for sex scenes. Looking at the presentation of a game, we see the multiplication of scenes, positions, possibilities of choice of partners. Just say yes or no. Be careful, I am not criticizing, I am just giving a very summarized (and perhaps simplistic) version of the image that these games can give.
Variety is what's important in my opinion. I don't mind a game about a big dicked guy that lives with his mother/landlady and older sister/tenant and younger sister/tenant but when 50% of games are like that it's just boring and repetitive.

I like AWAM but it's bogged in so many production issues we'll never see it completed.
 

Catherine1972

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Variety is what's important in my opinion. I don't mind a game about a big dicked guy that lives with his mother/landlady and older sister/tenant and younger sister/tenant but when 50% of games are like that it's just boring and repetitive.

I like AWAM but it's bogged in so many production issues we'll never see it completed.
It's hard to admit that this VN will never be finished. :(
Maybe it will be at the cost of abandoning certain routes, but there will inevitably be disappointments. As long as L&P is bent on quality (already very satisfactory and even more!) Rather than chaining scenes, time will lengthen indefinitely. But the quality of the characters and their construction comes at this price. I wouldn't want L&P to give up either of its characters. And the price to pay is the wait ...
 
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... Blame Dylan.
I don’t panic, but pizza here is Dylan ?! develop sophia pastipena not a little bitch and a slut of a sense from a tavo that her husband fucks her ochin .. from etava she and ishe kavoto who would fuck her pastiena and not from a rocket .. tagda to the patsemu Dilan vinavat I didn’t get it ?!
 

exazubi

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This is a purely english forum. So try to write in english. Or look for a tool to translate your texts. Just as I did with this one. Otherwise hardly anyone will be able to answer you here.

это чисто английский форум. так что попробуйте писать по-английски. или поищите инструмент для перевода ваших текстов. точно так же, как я сделал с этим. иначе вряд ли кто-нибудь сможет вам здесь ответить
 
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Atton563

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I don't know. I can't imagine Ellie and Patricia "pushing" Sophia to have a bit fun with Sam? The guy (name?) in the nightclub was an adult. The situation yes, could become similar. But with Sam... no or? Ellie/Patricia pushing her?
I feel the same I can't ever see Ellie telling/pushing her mom to fool around with Sam she must love her dad right? and telling her mom to have fun with his best friends son and there own sons best friend would be very fucked up, Unless she becomes an unrepentent slut and thinks her mom should be like her I don't see it happening. Patricia could maybe flirt with Sam along with Sophia to make him feel like a rockstar after his show but I can't see it going anywhere with them there, if anything will happen it will be on the way home maybe he will try to park his car somewhere romantic and make a move on her (no doubt she will be a little drunk so that would be a bit of a dick move on his part).
 

pb_2006

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OK I don't want to start a shit storm and yes I was patreon for some time but with 3 - max 4 udpates per year I decided it's not worth it... any current patreons here? Is he asked what he does with his time and money? Cause it looks to me like a money pull ;)

Just as FYI I worked in app development for big and small projects so I know something about lack of engament...

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17demon

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This is a purely english forum. So try to write in english. Or look for a tool to translate your texts. Just as I did with this one. Otherwise hardly anyone will be able to answer you here.

это чисто английский форум. так что попробуйте писать по-английски. или поищите инструмент для перевода ваших текстов. точно так же, как я сделал с этим. иначе вряд ли кто-нибудь сможет вам здесь ответить
Он по русскому и то пишет с ошибками....И судя по ошибкам ему и 18 нет)))
He is in Russian and then writes with errors ... And judging by the mistakes he is not 18)))
 

Talcum Powder

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OK I don't want to start a shit storm and yes I was patreon for some time but with 3 - max 4 udpates per year I decided it's not worth it... any current patreons here? Is he asked what he does with his time and money? Cause it looks to me like a money pull ;)

Just as FYI I worked in app development for big and small projects so I know something about lack of engament...

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Nice graph, thanks for sharing.

Number of Patreons shows very consistent growth so as much as we like to complain and moan about the development time here it looks like supporters aren't overly bothered.

Tip: Graph would be more intuitive if the Dollars axis were on the left and Patreon count axis on the right, just because of the shape of the curves.
 
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