palyanchp

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You are assuming a script exists before CS/RS which is looking less and less certain.
If I remember correctly, L&P wrote he had 43 pages of text waiting to be translated before he completed the PS work. I can also assume he must have them before hand in order to give facial expresiions, gestures, postures etc. to the characters in scenes.
 
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If I remember correctly, L&P wrote he had 43 pages of text waiting to be translated before he completed the PS work. I can also assume he must have them before hand in order to give facial expresiions, gestures, postures etc. to the characters in scenes.
Hmmm... I think you're assumption is more a leap of faith. Ask yourself: How do an expected 450 renders become 997? If the 43 MS Word pages existed in their entirety before he started creating and rendering then where did all the extra expressions, gestures, postures come from for the additional 457 images? It doesn't add up, unless there were MAJOR additions/revisions during the CS process.

Based on this and some of L&P's own words posted here and shared from his patreon pages it's not plausible that the script is in any kind of final-rough-draft state before he starts CS/RS, it only really takes shape during CS/RS and is then "finished" because it's been modified to account for all the images he's created.

So, translation does, according to L&P's own statements about his process plus circumstantial evidence and the dependencies in his workflow (order of operations), require CS/RS be completed.
 
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For "Legend Patrons" and its for the Sophia/Dylan event and could be released on the 28,but going by his last lot of teasers I don't expect much.
It is a teaser correct. So in the braod definition he could release a blank page and that would be the tease, to keep all in suspense. I prefer the NO SPOILER concept. Keep everything under wraps until release. Just my preference.
 

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It is a teaser correct. So in the braod definition he could release a blank page and that would be the tease, to keep all in suspense. I prefer the NO SPOILER concept. Keep everything under wraps until release. Just my preference.
I would agree, but that should have been applied to Aiden's event since that was the major event. This one should have been the one with the teaser from the start.
 

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I agree in the sentiment that it does not appear to be what we want. And definitely the production rate is not helping matters. I will give youa thought. In my mind a Stategic defeat is like what players of Foot of the Mountain experienced. The Dev dumped a cut scene to end the game (for all intents he abandoned the game). That is Strategic to me. We are in an Operational defeat.
Actually I consider this coming update a Strategic defeat as well. L&P supposedly wanted to show that he can get the updates into a steady flow and more importantly, show that the game would be finished in a lengthy, but predictable time frame.

What happened and is happening, since the fracking "quick" update is still in the works, is that this comatose slug of a developer had far less work to do for the new update than the former ones, but "succeeded" in having this update being even SLOWER in development than before.
And this is not the worst, the Dev had the audacity to call the predictions of a member, I think it was bayrischman, who stated early on that he predicts an update not before June since the Dev was a Schnecke from the start, openly ludicrous! What is now? A June update at best and the Dev is silent on the prediction now, shamed be he who thinks evil of this!
"Great" work by L&P, a smaller update with longer development time than ever for the amount of content in it! It might even be the only update in 2021 considering the accelerated (the only thing L&P "quickened") slowing down of pace.
I had been very sceptical well before this update about L&P, but now I am convinced that AWAM will end like "Foot of the Mountain" or "Forgotten Paradise" with a tacked on, underwhelming ending, because the Dev is completely unable to deliver anything in an acceptable timeframe.

I would call this a major Strategic defeat, because L&P succeeded splendidly in eroding any trust in his abilities to deliver the whole game still in our lifetime. You have to be deluded to believe an erotic game with a predicted end date in the 2030s(!), considering the Dev makes slugs look like racers, will be finished.
 

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Actually I consider this coming update a Strategic defeat as well. L&P supposedly wanted to show that he can get the updates into a steady flow and more importantly, show that the game would be finished in a lengthy, but predictable time frame.

What happened and is happening, since the fracking "quick" update is still in the works, is that this comatose slug of a developer had far less work to do for the new update than the former ones, but "succeeded" in having this update being even SLOWER in development than before.
And this is not the worst, the Dev had the audacity to call the predictions of a member, I think it was bayrischman, who stated early on that he predicts an update not before June since the Dev was a Schnecke from the start, openly ludicrous! What is now? A June update at best and the Dev is silent on the prediction now, shamed be he who thinks evil of this!
"Great" work by L&P, a smaller update with longer development time than ever for the amount of content in it! It might even be the only update in 2021 considering the accelerated (the only thing L&P "quickened") slowing down of pace.
I had been very sceptical well before this update about L&P, but now I am convinced that AWAM will end like "Foot of the Mountain" or "Forgotten Paradise" with a tacked on, underwhelming ending, because the Dev is completely unable to deliver anything in an acceptable timeframe.

I would call this a major Strategic defeat, because L&P succeeded splendidly in eroding any trust in his abilities to deliver the whole game still in our lifetime. You have to be deluded to believe an erotic game with a predicted end date in the 2030s(!), considering the Dev makes slugs look like racers, will be finished.
If you had not gone all personal on this I would say you have good points. Instead you lost me at "comatose slug". Just Sayin.
 

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If you had not gone all personal on this I would say you have good points. Instead you lost me at "comatose slug". Just Sayin.
Pardon me, but what would you call this? If he really is, as his defenders stated repeatedly, "working his ass off" then he has a very serious problem of a different kind, because the ratio between size of updates and time needed for them is beyond good and evil.
I don´t know of the cuff which member posted the average number of L&P´s renders per day, but it is very low for someone of his skill in DAZ and hardware available. Even hobby artists with household PCs can beat his number at comparable quality, just look at some of the fanart.
So this leaves us with three options: a) His work process and time managment is terminally flawed (because it WILL break his projects neck sometime in the future), to loose this much time, b) he is a milker, stretching time as much as he can or c) he is a comatose slug due to overfocussing, who should read his compatriot H.H. Gossen´s famous work on diminishing returns ASAP.
 

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Pardon me, but what would you call this? If he really is, as his defenders stated repeatedly, "working his ass off" then he has a very serious problem of a different kind, because the ratio between size of updates and time needed for them is beyond good and evil.
I don´t know of the cuff which member posted the average number of L&P´s renders per day, but it is very low for someone of his skill in DAZ and hardware available. Even hobby artists with household PCs can beat his number at comparable quality, just look at some of the fanart.
So this leaves us with three options: a) His work process and time managment is terminally flawed (because it WILL break his projects neck sometime in the future), to loose this much time, b) he is a milker, stretching time as much as he can or c) he is a comatose slug due to overfocussing, who should read his compatriot H.H. Gossen´s famous work on diminishing returns ASAP.
Calling L&P a "comatose slug" does not strengthen your argument or make him look bad. Instead it just makes people, even those who would agree with many of your points, roll their eyes.
 

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Calling L&P a "comatose slug" does not strengthen your argument or make him look bad. Instead it just makes people, even those who would agree with many of your points, roll their eyes.
I did not use this metaphor to strengthen the argument (my arguments have enough merit in this situation on their own) or make him look bad, but a description of how it looks to us on the outside and to shake L&P up, how he comes across. And considering the jokes in the thread, just look at the one just above, I am not the only one seeing it as it is.
A wolf stays a wolf, even if he has no appetite for sheep today! I know there are regions, e.g. the Anglosphere, where everything critical has to be packaged in pink fuzz and fake friendliness, but if L&P is really a German, then he should get the gist of a giving it straight to you better. Namely that currently he is an absoluter Lahmarsch, who is sabotaging himself in the long run with this ultra-slow pace and overfocussing on the Kleinklein (unimportant minutia)!
 
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It is a teaser correct. So in the braod definition he could release a blank page and that would be the tease, to keep all in suspense. I prefer the NO SPOILER concept. Keep everything under wraps until release. Just my preference.
No teasers are necessary or needed. Complete waste of time at this point.
We are already teased enough. Mercy Mercy Mercy.
The update is needed. Anything else will only inflame and delay.
Kick Dylan out. He is only a parasite to the efforts of producing the update.
Bring in Alyssa, she is the pro that's needed right now.;)
 

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After checking the last post on patreon -in my opinion very disrespectful - at this point it's all a joke and for me it's the last month I'm financially supporting this project.
It's disrespectful to ask people for 38.5$ to access a poll 1 week away from the end of the month before the release and to those who supported 5 months of excuses and subpar teasers.

He spends 6 months not delivering anything except for some mild teasers + the last teaser that was just a bullshit teaser for a whole month (April) of patronage. Constantly changing the deadline from a 3 month update to an april update, then may and finally june release date.

Says he can't deliver a dylan/sophia teaser because of patreon.
Fast forward one month, apparently delivering a teaser for dylan/sophia is ok.

And guess what? Its a 38.5$ poll (anyone remember the whoops teaser? yeah not worth it) :ROFLMAO:
Couple that with not posting anything significant in April and it's real classy pushing patrons supporting you for 6 months with 0 in return, to pledge to the higher tier right before the month ends (and not an update month!) only to vote on a poll.

For those interested and thinking about supporting: Why am I stopping support on this project and what will I tell anyone that asks me if he deserves support?
I always said I would stop supporting this as soon as I thought the dev wasn't working on this as I thought he was so:
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I'll be downloading it like everyone here and playing because I like the story and the renders but until the Dev starts actually working on it or taking steps to address the fact he would need to develop this until 2045 at the current pace, my financial support ends here.
 
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