GingerSweetGirl

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Doesn't explain why Ellie isn't a tenant, which would be a simpler and more consistent change

As long as Patreon gets their cut, if they're not actively looking for underage/incest content, they have plausible deniability so they might not care until it gets flagged. So the question then becomes what would have to happen in-game (and when) to be serious enough for someone to report L&P.
Oh I hear you about Ellie. Perhaps it was something really simple like L&P thought it looked dumb or awkward to have sentences that would reference two tenants. Something like "Sophia's tenant Ellie, and her tenant Dylan, were sitting next to her on the plane." It reads better if it's "Sophia's friend Ellie, and her tenant Dylan, were sitting next to her on the plane."

I think the second side job could be dangerous. I know it doesn't appear in DOL, but if anything crazy does happen in AWAM, it may put DOL in the cross hairs.
 

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I’m becoming increasingly worried that some crazed fan gets fed up with L&P’s sanctimonious drivel and reports him to Patreon out of spite. I see that as a much more likely reason for him being reported than the actual content.

I do not know why I get this feeling, but it’s been there for a while and it isn’t going away.

if that did end up happening, regardless of the reason, it would be a real and tragic loss.
 
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I’m becoming increasingly worried that some crazed fan gets fed up with L&P’s sanctimonious drivel and reports him to Patreon out of spite. I see that as a much more likely reason for him being reported than the actual content.

I do not know why I get this feeling, but it’s been there for a while and it isn’t going away.

if that did end up happening, regardless of the reason, it would be a real and tragic loss.
He still has subscribestar.
 

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I’m becoming increasingly worried that some crazed fan gets fed up with L&P’s sanctimonious drivel and reports him to Patreon out of spite. I see that as a much more likely reason for him being reported than the actual content.

I do not know why I get this feeling, but it’s been there for a while and it isn’t going away.

if that did end up happening, regardless of the reason, it would be a real and tragic loss.
People are assholes, so I don't think your concern is unwarranted. Again, it would be one thing if L&P was just bending the rules a little, but he's smashing them. When I set up my Patreon I was reading through the rules for creators and the very first thing I thought of was L&P. Rule, after rule, after rule, he seems to smash and some are definitely biggies. To Patreon's credit, they will work with creators and give them guidance and feedback to make sure they're in compliance, but that's for small stuff and rules that have gray-areas. I've heard of creators getting straight up banned, no warning, if they're caught flagrantly breaking the rules.

He would protect himself a little if he set up a Discord. If he is ever deleted from Patreon, or has some other major issue, it would give him another avenue to communicate with fans.
 
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People are assholes, so I don't think your concern is unwarranted. Again, it would be one thing if L&P was just bending the rules a little, but he's smashing. When I joined Patreon I was reading through the rules for creators and the very first thing I thought of was L&P. Rule, after rule, after rule, he seems to smash and some are definitely biggies. To Patreon's credit, they will work with creators and give them guidance and feedback to make sure they're in compliance, but that's for small stuff and rules that have gray-areas. I've heard of creators getting straight up banned, no warning, if they're caught flagrantly breaking the rules.

He would protect himself a little if he set up a Discord. If he is ever deleted from Patreon, or has some other major issue, it would give him another avenue to communicate with fans.
I think the way he communicates with fans is part of his problem, tbh.
 

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I don't think you understand Dylan's character. And he didn't understand himself. He doesn't really want Sofia, he wants to be Sofia himself. He's not jealous of Sophia for Sam, but of Sam for Sophia. Dylan must go through the process of becoming aware of his gay tendencies !
 

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The fact that Dylan paid Aiden to strip Sofia proves that Dylan does not want to possess Sofia, because jealousy would not allow him to do so. No! By identifying with Sophia, Dylan wants to enjoy Aiden's advances to himself through Sophia !
 
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I don't think you understand Dylan's character. And he didn't understand himself. He doesn't really want Sofia, he wants to be Sofia himself. He's not jealous of Sophia for Sam, but of Sam for Sophia. Dylan must go through the process of becoming aware of his gay tendencies !
I’d be quite interested in the textual evidence to back this up.
The fact that Dylan paid Aiden to strip Sofia proves that Dylan does not want to possess Sofia, because jealousy would not allow him to do so. No! By identifying with Sophia, Dylan wants to enjoy Aiden's advances to himself through Sophia !
Just so we’re clear: this isn’t evidence.
 

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I’m becoming increasingly worried that some crazed fan gets fed up with L&P’s sanctimonious drivel and reports him to Patreon out of spite. I see that as a much more likely reason for him being reported than the actual content.

I do not know why I get this feeling, but it’s been there for a while and it isn’t going away.

if that did end up happening, regardless of the reason, it would be a real and tragic loss.
I've thought for a while that we may never actually see Sophia having sex with anyone other than Liam, (not counting imaginings/dreams) but AWAM is unlike other games/VNs, insofar as I can't quite give it up. Any other game moving at this rate of updates, with no appreciable sexual activity or prospect of it for years, I'd have dropped months ago.
 

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I've thought for a while that we may never actually see Sophia having sex with anyone other than Liam, (not counting imaginings/dreams) but AWAM is unlike other games/VNs, insofar as I can't quite give it up. Any other game moving at this rate of updates, with no appreciable sexual activity or prospect of it for years, I'd have dropped months ago.
If the Patreon numbers ever collapse (I don't mean slip, I mean collapse- something like a 30% drop in a month) I think we'll see Sophia immediately have sex with someone even if it's unscheduled. I'm not saying that's the best idea, but I think it's a very realistic emergency move.
 
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Hmmm... I just had a look over the T&Cs of SubscribeStar, and it looks that since the characters in AWAM aren't real, both the incest and underage content is allowed.

Is the game referred to as AWAM there?
I am not one of his subscribers, but I believe it is AWAM.
 
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