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SteelyDan14

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Something you can share with us? What he said?
I don't see the messages in Patreon any longer and I know he deleted my "public" posts on his page (He was right to do that). I will say that he did address my concerns and as a result, he went back and made the children look older... although he may have already been in the process of doing that, I can't remember. Regardless, he did listen to my concerns and if I remember correctly, he used the ages vary in different countries argument, but it was clear they were going to stay in there.
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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I don't see the messages in Patreon any longer and I know he deleted my "public" posts on his page (He was right to do that). I will say that he did address my concerns and as a result, he went back and made the children look older... although he may have already been in the process of doing that, I can't remember. Regardless, he did listen to my concerns and if I remember correctly, he used the ages vary in different countries argument, but it was clear they were going to stay in there.
Yeah, I feel like without the details this isn't helpful. I'm not blaming you, you can't remember, but I can't feel better/worse about it unless I get a lot more details.
 

ashitanojoe

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I don't see the messages in Patreon any longer and I know he deleted my "public" posts on his page (He was right to do that). I will say that he did address my concerns and as a result, he went back and made the children look older... although he may have already been in the process of doing that, I can't remember. Regardless, he did listen to my concerns and if I remember correctly, he used the ages vary in different countries argument, but it was clear they were going to stay in there.
So, he said to you that he is modifying the characters to look older? Is that right?
 

nexer

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I understand the reaction of some but I don't understand why so late? They should have, lest they be considered hypocrites, after the Julia scene.
Julia is a year younger than Sam, who is Ellie's age. And Ellie's under 18.
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2021/03/1110158_1615979174578.png
 
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Seeing this one, I wanted to say it too. I am from Russia and we have 30 euros is ... 2,624 rubles, and this is not even a small amount of money. For this amount in the incentive, you can buy a bunch of games at the same discounts yes, so a person on patreon has a lot of subscribers, 1700 people, and even if a brother pays him 1 euro every day, this is not a small amount of money. And He still resents being pirated? This dude earns more per month than the hard workers at the helicopter repair plant who work tirelessly for 500 euros per month on average.... while he makes the release of the game once a month ... 3-6 months?
He has a good game but what I saw here in the comments, the author of the game is still a Jew, but the game is good. and his complaints are absolutely not appropriate, I would even be glad that his game is so well promoted even by pirates. In general, I unsubscribed from his Patron today after seeing this.
I was with you until the "Jew" part.
I don't know if he's Jewish or not - by what people said here, he's a Turk who emigrated to Germany. So, statistically, not a Jew and, also statistically, not very fond of Jews, either.
I, on the other hand, AM a Jew.
And you, sir, are a fucking asshole.
 

xxxorro

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56 points are needed and there is also an in game cheat to give you the points
I'm sorry if it has been already asked and/or explained but I cannot find any answer.
Do we have an explanation for setting the threshold to a value that cannot be reached without the new cheating feature?

It's really strange, it would make sense if for some reason he had to change the point system of previous events.
I triple checked the current code with past versions I have (100, 115 and 130) and there are no changes in the points given for Dylan. Same for the walkthrough.

Could it be that it is just to make people aware of the new cheating feature? But still...

PS
Never noticed, but he did quite an editing to many parts of the script between 100 and 115, especially for the pool event with Julie and Ellie.
And another thing worth of being noticed is that he changed all the dialogues referring to Sophia's marriage length from 18 to 20 years. Maybe it's related once again to the character age etc etc.
(again, sorry if this is old news and it has already been discussed)
 
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QPOB

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Couldn't find the changelog, is that all the new lewd content? Only played from 1 save

-Washing the boomers
-Modeling gig
-Dylan park event
 
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I'm sorry if it has been already asked and/or explained but I cannot find any answer.
Do we have an explanation for setting the threshold to a value that cannot be reached without the new cheating feature?

It's really strange, it would make sense if for some reason he had to change the point system of previous events.
I triple checked the current code with past versions I have (100, 115 and 130) and there are no changes in the points given for Dylan. Same for the walkthrough.

Could it be that it is just to make people aware of the new cheating feature? But still...

PS
Never noticed, but he did quite an editing to many parts of the script between 100 and 115, especially for the pool event with Julie and Ellie.
And another thing worth of being noticed is that he changed all the dialogues referring to Sophia's marriage length from 18 to 20 years. Maybe it's related once again to the character age etc etc.
(again, sorry if this is old news and it has already been discussed)
I think that L&P did something to the game that affected the points system as I had to change the points to a higher value for certain events
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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btw. AWAM is not on Patreon the only thing he releases there is a heavily censored version without stuff that breaks Patreon rules.
Hosting a fake game on Patreon in order to subvert the rules while "secretly" releasing the real game off-site is explicitly against Patreon's TOS and is a bannable offense.
 
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ZLATAN11

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here are my unofficial android ports of A Wife And Mother.
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you have to play part 1 to the very end and let the game export your progress.
provide a meaningful name to keep different playthroughs apart.
you start part 2 by importing one of your exported game states. save files made by anything other than part 2 are marked incompatible cuz there is simply no content of part 1 to get part 1 save files working.

from now on my android ports of Ren'Py games have a 2nd, persistent save location like windows. if you uninstall an app, the save files and persistent data remain intact.
therefore the app needs the permission to access the public external storage (or a new one on Android 11 :FacePalm:), because it has to read and write outside its own external storage directories.
you have to grant the permission or the app is shut down.

have fun and please report problems (you can reach me ).
updated: 15.06.2021 (v0.130)
bro i've played v0.115 in my android device
I've completed the game and gave my save name zlatan
but now in v0.130 i've no imported files how will i play now ???
please help
 

atlas114

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renders are definitely top notch, gotta credit L&P there. the only scene i sort of liked was the modeling one for aiden’s 3rd task and of course the stuff with the old guys, which ended too soon i think.

anyways, see you guys back in december for the last 1/3 of this playable day!
 

Horny Little Brother

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I did not know the term shota until the update of AWAM, but I must still say that I find it disgusting and inappropriate to have such content in a game. Why not simply keep children out of this games in general?
which kid? there are no children here. there is digital art here. It's all zeros and ones. no one is hurt, no one is traumatized. None of what happened is real.
You already know all this. The shota theme may have offended you for moral reasons. I understand that. Naturally, I have similar feelings in different themes. but, there seems to be some inconsistency? For example, there are sexual relations between mother-son, sister-brother, father-daughter in such games. Aren't these disgusting and inappropriate things?
Or do you like them? ohhh cool man ;) let them stay then, let the sons fuck their mother. but when you grow up, because that's what you and your morals want :)

If you don't like it, if you're uncomfortable, don't play. No one here has the right to ask for censorship.
let the one without sin cast the first stone.
 

xxxorro

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I felt that too. Even the old men seemed to be more direct about sexual stuff, like mentioning group sex etc. Dylan and Aiden were also using pretty strong language.
Yes, same feeling with the old men too. But in that case it was kind to be expected because we didn't have any introduction with the characters and their interaction with Sophia. Only some text explaining that they were getting along and sharing some personal information. In a way it felt like jumping in the middle of a conversation with some strangers.
 
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Hosting a fake game on Patreon in order to subvert the rules while "secretly" releasing the real game off-site is explicitly against Patreon's TOS and is a bannable offense.
you think so. Why would Patreon sanction a game that made a lot of money? After all, the version on patreon is completely censored.
 

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Zorlun is the next dev that i'm going to support...
He is amazing in my eyes! New to everything but makes a high quality (in all aspects). On top of monthly updates pretty much. That's why i grow tired of these other devs that have been in the game for years that claim it takes forever. But what do i know im not tech savy.
 

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Your post just proves my point and just because you say it's shota, doesn't make it shota. Plenty of people can look younger than their age, I have never looked my age.

they look the same age Dylan did in the early stages of the game, that is an undeniable fact, so if they're underage, then so is Dylan, Emma, Zach, Sam, Aiden and everyone else in Sophia's class.

You can't have it both ways, you can't say 1 is shota and the other isn't, either they're both shota or there is no shota in AWAM, and there is no shota in AWAM. if you been supporting it since the early days of the game, then you supported the game while Dylan looked as young as the 3 tutoring guys do.

Remember some places in this world (Italy, Japan) allow 14+ to have sex, some places like the UK (where I am is 16+) and you can still be in school at 16. I think in the US some states are 18+ but don't think all states are 18+, not sure about that but sure people there can still be in school at 18.

This has been talked about MANY times in this thread, there is NO SHOTA in AWAM. I stand by that as the facts I have posted are true and undeniable. They look similar age to Dylan in the early part of the game and what I said about being in school at 16 or 18 is true as well.
It IS shota, they look like ones (debatable but no way older than 16 tho) and act like ones. And I'm not kink shaming. Better people play shota games than do things irl.

I can understand 4 years ago L&P made Dylan and Ellie too young. He has corrected it now. But this event is recent and clearly not a mistake.
 
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