By Wodan´s floppy hat, since the 0.130 update this thread has become both surreal and funny! Great Cinema!
On one hand, I, Lusty Pateron and others get heavy flak (and sometimes truly stupid counters) from L&P´s Yesmen for pointing out the biggest elephant in the room: namely the out-of-bounds development times, which will kill this project unless there are serious changes in the workflow.
On the other hand, we can now see the same Yesmen tearing into each other over things pixel do to each other! If someone is really so impressionable to consider doing things after playing a game from this site, he/she should stay away from any kind of computer game! If you have a problem differentiating fantasy and reality that is bad in general!
On the topic of Shota: I am indifferent to it, I avoid it in games I play, because it is not my cup of tea, but if someone else lives his/her fantasies out in imagination or games, that is no skin off my nose. The world of thoughts is free. In the case of the Shota content in 0.130, it is optional (for now at least), so a whatever from me unless it becomes unavoidable, but I can see the problem some players have with it. No matter what L&P says, the boys come across a lot younger than they are supposed to be. They do not talk like 11th grader crushing fiercely on a hot teacher, they sound like early teens at best. And that is the BIG problem. While he made them physically "passable", their speech clearly implies younger age. Which lands this scene in creepy territory.
It is one thing, if you have a shota scene with a student going towards graduation crushing on, wanting to date his hot teacher and another here, where the students sound around 12 if we are magnanimous. German age of consent is 14 (specific cases DEFINITLY NOT appliable here) and 16 in all other scenarios. As said, physically L&P made them passable, but the spoken text implies an age of them below both German Ages of Consent.
On the topic of Incest: If it is consensual and the persons involved old enough to make their own choices, it cannot shock me. If it is forced or underage stuff, that is a complete no go! As we can see in real life, while the media concentrates mainly on the monstrous cases, consensual incest is not as uncommon as many people think and allowed in several nations. So in the fantasy world of games it cannot shock me. I do not go for it specifically, but I do not balk if it is in a game, unless there are other reasons like forced content.
In the case of AWAM/DoL with Ellie, Zack and Dylan, it can be a problem with some players since it plays in America, where (Incest topic for a moment put aside) age of consent is higher than in Germany. In Germany all 3 would count as old enough, as said relationship topic not in focus, in Amerika only Ellie might be counted as old enough.
