OK, in this case, with 3 events with Ellie: shower, pool and a night club
That scene has to be at the end of the day. Cuz would eclipse the others. Can't have, that day, another hot scene after this one
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That scene has to be at the end of the day. Cuz would eclipse the others. Can't have, that day, another hot scene after this one
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Excuse me . Okay let's say "for" Sophia sexual encounter without Liam. Could be Ellie birthday gift they gave her.The one Sophia accidentally found when cleaning Ellie room Or Antonio Sr. Given for a gift from Alyssa .
Hmm very intriguing. We never know . Just saying . Good Day to All and please be safe and healthy.
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I think I'm going to bleach my phone after I bleach my eyes. Maybe that might work.
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NO!! It is whatever is ILLEGAL in your country. Where you can face a criminal prosecution and hence public shaming and thus potentially damage to yourself and/or your property, not for doing anything, but just MERELY from having the IMAGE on your PC.
Don't believe me? A doctor who specializing in treating sick children and their diseases i.e. a Pediatrician and his house was attacked by local mob because they were too stupid to understand the difference between a doctor and a Pediophile…..
So it is not just "whatever floats your boat"
To be blunt he will say whatever he wants to keep his ass looking legitimate. That was not the physical representation he presented. That is why so many are upset with his presentation and why he has a SHOTA TAG. You can stop with the sugar coating. The horse has been dead since the first post on this topic.
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It's hard for me to understand why there's so much debate about the disciples. There can be no doubt that regardless of what messages are passed back and forth between Patreons and the developer, and no matter what text is presented in the script file, the images we were presented were deliberately created - nothing L&P does is an accident - to evoke in our minds three boys in early-stage puberty. The script was also written in such a way that (depending on choices, of course) the adult molesting the children convinces herself that this is a harmless action.
If you like that, well, that's great for you. If you want to talk about how much you like it, fine. But don't pretend it was something other than sexual abuse of children, and certainly don't debase yourself by trying to argue otherwise.
If you like that, well, that's great for you. If you want to talk about how much you like it, fine. But don't pretend it was something other than sexual abuse of children, and certainly don't debase yourself by trying to argue otherwise.
It's a small but loud minority (Incapable of separating fiction from reality) who went out of their way to get offended and can't shut up about it.
Early stage puberty? That would be like 12-13, and they're clearly older than that. Much as I dislike how this game turned out (blueballing/no sex with a guy not a pindick and not even seeing her vag FOUR years in[!!!]) they are clearly AT LEAST about 16 and could definitely pass for 18-19.
bruh if you want to justify wanking to shota, you dont have to but go for it if it makes you feel better, but dont expect anyone to believe this
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Yep. This, exactly.
If it's anything like this it's not illegal in the US as it is not of a real person. Again the ones in here seem to be at least around 18 anyway. And hell, when I was in my teens if a teacher looking like that would have wanted to get it on I would have been OK. Of course when they brag to their friends is when it messes it up. Ones I had were elderly or otherwise NOT good looking.
Still, I don't see how anyone can see this as good. No sex even 1 year in is a shit game. Now 3 years+ still none but husband and never even see her pussy. Are Southern Baptist fundies and the Taliban upvoting this? That might make sense but to anyone sane this game is at best PG so far and shit. Adult games without sex are about as good as decaf coffee, non-alcoholic beer or a prostitute that only lets you cuddle. This far in both here and Patreon should say "shit game, ban the dev."
This is a ROMANCE NOVEL for extremely prudish women, not a sex game. I think anyone who likes this needs their head examined and probably be sent to a mental hospital or to be checked for frigidity or for a male underdeveloped testicles. Any normal male stuck playing this would be screaming in pain due to balls crossing from blue to purple to black.
This is a ROMANCE NOVEL for extremely prudish women, not a sex game. I think anyone who likes this needs their head examined and probably be sent to a mental hospital or to be checked for frigidity or for a male underdeveloped testicles. Any normal male stuck playing this would be screaming in pain due to balls crossing from blue to purple to black.
why are you so butthurt if you don't like the game then just don't play it and stay off the page.
- Jul 13, 2018
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So if you don't like it and don't play it why are you here?
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I see this thread has been going swell for the day.
So I've been thinking that perhaps the first hetero sex scene
Will be Liam.
So I've been thinking that perhaps the first hetero sex scene
Will be Liam.
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About this point, I mean if someone were to find out you play this game. Then they will also see the images of a little Dylan and Sam groping Sophia, a 17yr old ( under 18) daughter and a 16 yr old Son ( again under 18, I mention it because the people you refer to won't care about age of consent and stuff, if your character is under 18, it is illegal in their eyes, no justification is enough for them ) trying to fuck their own mother, neighbors kids trying to get into her pants, a teacher getting blackmailed by a teenager, sexual harassment, naked old men being bathed. Son masturbating to his mom etc etc..... While remembering the son is just 6-8 months older than the oldest boy in the other storyline. You say all this is totally justifiable to others but just this one route isn't. If someone finds out at your respective works that you play such a game and have images like this on your laptop, you're fucked anyways.
So this whole point about the images getting seen and it being a issue is no valid argument here. Also why do you want to extract the images and then keep this set of images on your PC. Delete them. And I don't expect someone to have access to your laptop for so long at work that they go through entire awam to reach day 19 and see this event ( also to see this event they will have to refuse the first job, which anyway playing for the first time won't refuse. So a first playthrough will never even show them the storyline. )
Also I would like to say that there are games here with tons of other fetishes which are actually bizarre but people still play them. As for ILLEGAL, so is incest. but then again I don't want to debate on the legality once again. Most of the things that happen in this game can definitely get one to prison in real life. But that's the point, this isn't real life but merely a fictional game, harming no one where one can engage in a fetish of their desire without being judged.
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He deliberately did that I know it. He himself addressed it in the message to me, that he made them look like that for the taboo immersion of the kink. Also there is no point of looking legitimate because he could have said that they are 10yr olds and it still won't make a difference since as per law this is still an artistic expression and not illegal. I am not saying that excercising this kink in the real world is okay, IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT. For a fictional game however it is effectively this kink shaming people who do like it. Constantly telling them that what they are playing or supporting is illegal. While yourself engaging in kinks that are ILLEGAL as well. This I don't stand for. I have no interest in shota either but it doesn't bother me if someone else likes it.
In real life yes this sexual abuse, do you think I will have a different opinion on it, absolutely not. In the game however mentioning that this action is illegal or wrong and gets jail time in real life is not needed. Because as I have mentioned several times this is a fictional kink dynamic. The player enjoys it because he is an adult imaging a scenario where he is a teenager ( his thoughts however are not if a teenager but yours, of an adult ) and is in this stimulating situation with an older woman. Not because he loves to see children getting sexually abused but because of a wishful fantasy scenario. Very similar to Dylan and Sam scenario, teenager getting lucky with a older woman. No outrage was shown for the game initially when Dylan and Sam, Ellie looked like little children ( even younger than the Myer boys ). The movers checking out a child like looking girl wasn't disturbing for people, a small Sam rubbing his dick on Sophia's butt wasn't problematic as well. But suddenly now people are considering the legality of things.
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If that were even slightly true, there'd be no reason for L&P to create DoL. He'd be able to openly make AWAM on Patreon, and not keep secrets as to what he is doing.
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I generally agree there isn't much use in discussing the in-game legality of what everyone's up to in San Alejo. I mean it's pretty well written for a porn game but like any fiction you have to be prepared for some level of suspension of disbelief. Ok, so those boys are "17 and 16". If you say so. I'm not debating what the content says they are. I'm saying and you're not contradicting that L&P's intent was to present to us a grown woman justifying and rationalizing that it was ok to jerk on what was intended to evoke in our minds, some pubescent pepe.
I don't think there's much to gain by discussing or debating whether having the cartoon images on your hard drive constitutes a crime, let alone one that would get someone prosecuted, convicted and sentenced.
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All of it really. But I'm only trying to establish that there are reasonable objections to playing the 2nd side job. And that any claim to "realism" and "class" are long gone. I've already said under Forum Rules playing the 2nd side job is deemed acceptable. I've had enough of my posts deleted for "kink-shaming" for me to accept that.
And as for characters being underage, I have issues with the Dylan and Sam routes too, not just Ava's kids. I just choose not to play them. As far as I'm concerned in my playthrough, all characters Sophia gets intimate with are over 18, and I've argued as much for a while now.