VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

That is what fake IDs are for. LOL

Only person we know the boys know with enough connections for that is possibly Aiden. And the last time the boys worked with Aiden (especially to take advantage of Sophia) there was apparently such an uproar that it was announced it would be removed from the game days later. Before some patrons even got a chance to have a say.

So while DIRTY Filthy Animal's scenario might easily work for fan art, the chances of anything like it happening in the game are not worth considering.

Aiden could probably pull it off, but the boys, not so much.

 

[hzjujk]

Only person we know the boys know with enough connections for that is possibly Aiden. And the last time the boys worked with Aiden (especially to take advantage of Sophia) there was apparently such an uproar that it was announced it would be removed from the game days later. Before some patrons even got a chance to have a say.

At that time I had the impression that L&P preferred this event. He mentioned that himself in a post if I remember correctly. This meant for me at the time that he was very unsure about this turn in the game itself and that this event was not only removed because of the pressure from the players. And that he had no plausible solution to the problem on the route Sophia / Dylan if Sophia had learned the truth about the origin of the blackmail from Aiden. Except that Sophia should have been a stupidly horny slut at this point. Or that it should always have remained a secret, even on the romantic Sophia / Dylan route, if there is one.

 

[Hlextor]

At that time I had the impression that L&P preferred this event. He mentioned that himself in a post if I remember correctly. This meant for me at the time that he was very unsure about this turn in the game itself and that this event was not only removed because of the pressure from the players. And that he had no plausible solution to the problem on the route Sophia / Dylan if Sophia had learned the truth about the origin of the blackmail from Aiden. Except that Sophia should have been a stupidly horny slut at this point. Or that it should always have remained a secret, even on the romantic Sophia / Dylan route, if there is one.

I do believe that it was only due to pressure from his patrons and the many ( angry ) emails that the twist was removed. However, I still do not understand what he had in mind with that?! I think that a relationship between Sophia and Dylan would be impossible if he had kept the twist. Sophia can no longer build trust with Dylan, knowing that he is responsible for the tasks.

 

[Alley_Cat]

At that time I had the impression that L&P preferred this event. He mentioned that himself in a post if I remember correctly. This meant for me at the time that he was very unsure about this turn in the game itself and that this event was not only removed because of the pressure from the players. And that he had no plausible solution to the problem on the route Sophia / Dylan if Sophia had learned the truth about the origin of the blackmail from Aiden. Except that Sophia should have been a stupidly horny slut at this point. Or that it should always have remained a secret, even on the romantic Sophia / Dylan route, if there is one.

I believe "the Twist" was practically as different as the difference between doing Aiden's tasks or sending Dylan to boarding school. That the deal was essentially never made in a playthrough with Sophia doing Aiden's tasks. And that yeah, it was a special storyline for Dylan just for the boarding school route. Sadly we'll never know what it was. I still get curious at times what it could have lead to.

What I don't get, now that it's come up again, is why the rule of thumb of "if you don't like it, don't play it", doesn't apply. I find some of the particularly more recent content far more abhorrent behaviour from Sophia, than anything Dylan has ever done so far. But does its existence in the game prevent me from enjoying the route I play - not in the slightest.

When I eventually abandon my support for this game, it's far more likely to be because new games have come up with more interesting content more frequently. With better dev teams.

 

[hzjujk]

I do believe that it was only due to pressure from his patrons and the many ( angry ) emails that the twist was removed. However, I still do not understand what he had in mind with that?! I think that a relationship between Sophia and Dylan would be impossible if he had kept the twist. Sophia can no longer build trust with Dylan, knowing that he is responsible for the tasks.

Yes, and that's why he gave in so quickly. It was applied too thickly and could not have been erased with any good deed. To me it looked like he wanted to know what the players thought about it.

 

[hzjujk]

I believe "the Twist" was practically as different as the difference between doing Aiden's tasks or sending Dylan to boarding school. That the deal was essentially never made in a playthrough with Sophia doing Aiden's tasks. And that yeah, it was a special storyline for Dylan just for the boarding school route. Sadly we'll never know what it was. I still get curious at times what it could have lead to.

What I don't get, now that it's come up again, is why the rule of thumb of "if you don't like it, don't play it", doesn't apply. I find some of the particularly more recent content far more abhorrent behaviour from Sophia, than anything Dylan has ever done so far. But does its existence in the game prevent me from enjoying the route I play - not in the slightest.

When I eventually abandon my support for this game, it's far more likely to be because new games have come up with more interesting content more frequently. With better dev teams.

I am not quite as strict as you are, but there is nothing more to add to what you have said.

 

[母娘蜜猟]

Hi, i just made an animated signature to spread my lesbincest fetish to majority of co-perverts here.

 

[degreg]

Amazing game ! can't wait the next update version ♥

 

[Adolfo]

Amazing game ! can't wait the next update version ♥

Until end of octuber (with luck) you can play other games

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Yes, and that's why he gave in so quickly. It was applied too thickly and could not have been erased with any good deed. To me it looked like he wanted to know what the players thought about it.

When he applied "The Twist" plot, Dylan's character traits were Spying, Perversion, Begging, Self-Imposed "Happy Endings," etc... then you combine NTR on top of that, and Dylan came off as an unlikeable character with supporters. His character was like this until P.D. 12 when L&P change it up, and Dylan started to act like this normal young adult with a normal adult conversation with Sophia during their jogging in the park. There were times that he peeked, but it didn't appear to be creepy like the other times. Young Men and Women go through the natural process of puberty, but I have never seen or heard of anything like what L&P presented with Dylan.

It's good to see that Dylan's character had a mature state in this P.D. 12, but I wouldn't say I liked how L&P flipped the switch on Dylan's traits. I hope he would have developed from the previous P.D up to this point instead of how he was acting from P.D. 1 -11.

 

[degreg]

Until end of octuber (with luck) you can play other games

Hey bro do you know a similar game? preferably an incestuous relationship between family etc? Thank you

 

[hzjujk]

When he applied "The Twist" plot, Dylan's character traits were Spying, Perversion, Begging, Self-Imposed "Happy Endings," etc... then you combine NTR on top of that, and Dylan came off as an unlikeable character with supporters. His character was like this until P.D. 12 when L&P change it up, and Dylan started to act like this normal young adult with a normal adult conversation with Sophia during their jogging in the park. There were times that he peeked, but it didn't appear to be creepy like the other times. Young Men and Women go through the natural process of puberty, but I have never seen or heard of anything like what L&P presented with Dylan.

It's good to see that Dylan's character had a mature state in this P.D. 12, but I wouldn't say I liked how L&P flipped the switch on Dylan's traits. I hope he would have developed from the previous P.D up to this point instead of how he was acting from P.D. 1 -11.

No, I think it was okay how L&P Dylan drew at the beginning. It should be a total loser who slowly works his way up. Only the twist was then too much. It just couldn't be fixed in the course of the game.
But I find much more important what options Dylan now has to get closer to Sophia. He does everything in the household, he doesn't have any money (including no car), his father is not a total asshole, he has already defended his mother with physical effort, he has a big cock but no sexual experience: where is the approach to impress his mother or to go a common path. He has better chances with Marie than with Sophia and, realistically, nothing should change that.

 

[Bane71]

Friends, from time to time, like many others, I express some kind of dissatisfaction with the L&P.
Personally, I think the game is recklessly missing the dialogue between Sam and Dylan after Sofia's fashion show.
I guess it could be quite interesting.
Didn't they discuss anything after seeing this:

???

I understand that everything cannot be perfect with the creation of a game, the course of history cannot suit absolutely every user, but still! Dylan and Sam discussed the ball game with Sofia:


Dylan and Sam then discussed this:

when Sophia went to change into a swimsuit.

And after the fashion show, there was no discussion!
This is strange at least! Indeed, for Dylani and Sam it was an unusual event, for the first time they saw Sofia in such a form that they could only dream of.

And the absence of any dialogue between them after that:


in my opinion a big flaw. This dialogue could be quite interesting. Its absence creates a kind of vacuum of understatement, a sense of failure in history.
What do you say, gentlemen perverts?

 

[mad_hungarian]

Friends, from time to time, like many others, I express some kind of dissatisfaction with the L&P.
Personally, I think the game is recklessly missing the dialogue between Sam and Dylan after Sofia's fashion show.
I guess it could be quite interesting.
Didn't they discuss anything after seeing this:
View attachment 1342284
???

I understand that everything cannot be perfect with the creation of a game, the course of history cannot suit absolutely every user, but still! Dylan and Sam discussed the ball game with Sofia:
View attachment 1342299

Dylan and Sam then discussed this:
View attachment 1342326
when Sophia went to change into a swimsuit.

And after the fashion show, there was no discussion!
This is strange at least! Indeed, for Dylani and Sam it was an unusual event, for the first time they saw Sofia in such a form that they could only dream of.

And the absence of any dialogue between them after that:
View attachment 1342348
View attachment 1342355
in my opinion a big flaw. This dialogue could be quite interesting. Its absence creates a kind of vacuum of understatement, a sense of failure in history.
What do you say, gentlemen perverts?

Yes agree! Either a dialog between the two or at least the thought process after seeing such yumminess.

 

[hzjujk]

Friends, from time to time, like many others, I express some kind of dissatisfaction with the L&P.
Personally, I think the game is recklessly missing the dialogue between Sam and Dylan after Sofia's fashion show.
I guess it could be quite interesting.
Didn't they discuss anything after seeing this:
View attachment 1342284
???

I understand that everything cannot be perfect with the creation of a game, the course of history cannot suit absolutely every user, but still! Dylan and Sam discussed the ball game with Sofia:
View attachment 1342299

Dylan and Sam then discussed this:
View attachment 1342326
when Sophia went to change into a swimsuit.

And after the fashion show, there was no discussion!
This is strange at least! Indeed, for Dylani and Sam it was an unusual event, for the first time they saw Sofia in such a form that they could only dream of.

And the absence of any dialogue between them after that:
View attachment 1342348
View attachment 1342355
in my opinion a big flaw. This dialogue could be quite interesting. Its absence creates a kind of vacuum of understatement, a sense of failure in history.
What do you say, gentlemen perverts?

So first of all: I'm not a pervert. Everyone else is. Not me!

Yes and no. First of all, there is the event with and without Sam. So why bother. And then it is so that Dylan was jealous of Sam over and over again during the event. What should the conversation between the two of them have been like, except for another argument. The two do not team up to lay Sophia down. Sam isn't the type to share. And Dylan is about his mother. At this point he is even more insecure than he is in the current state of the game. A conversation about what a sex bomb his mother is would be hell for him. Especially since he also financed the fashion show. To then determine that Sam is logically preferred by Sophia, because not her own family member.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

No, I think it was okay how L&P Dylan drew at the beginning. It should be a total loser who slowly works his way up. Only the twist was then too much. It just couldn't be fixed in the course of the game.

That's what I said or implied in the second part of my post. But that's not what L&P did. He didn't show any development at all. Instead, he kept Dylan's character traits the same until P.D. 12, then L&P flipped the switch and did a 180 on Dylan's traits and demeanor which he seems more mature now as you see in the exercise event with Sophia.

But I find much more important what options Dylan now has to get closer to Sophia. He does everything in the household, he doesn't have any money (including no car), his father is not a total asshole, he has already defended his mother with physical effort, he has a big cock but no sexual experience: where is the approach to impress his mother or to go a common path. He has better chances with Marie than with Sophia and, realistically, nothing should change that.

Well, He does everything in the household and has no more money because of his deal with Sophia. That was the reward given to him for giving that up, so he should get no benefits from anything else in that choice.

"his father is not a total asshole"

IDK, When you don't go to Dylan's games, because Liam prefers the other football, or goes fishing instead of taking Dylan to practice, which Sophia has to do it and gambling the house away, that seems like a total asshole to me.

"he has already defended his mother with physical effort, he has a big cock but no sexual experience: where is the approach to impress his mother or to go a common path."

This statement amplifies my comments about Dylan's character growth. Dylan has been in this state from day one. The defending of Sophia was good, but I didn't find it that impactful, and I thought it was a cliche. I think what killed that part for me was that he was beating up a drunk hobo. Now, the hobos were obnoxious and drunk, saying things that sober people shouldn't say, and Dylan stuck up for Sophia. But fight a drunk guy???? I think people here have been around plenty of drunk people who know drunk people say and do stupid things, and they usually walk away unless the drunk person turns violent. So in my mind, fighting a drunk person is a cheap shot because that person is impaired already, so the advantage should be with the sober person.

Now, I have no issue starting a character off with little to no experience and needs guidance, but there was very little to none at all. Maybe it could have been the "The Twist" plot that messed up the story, and everything was revolving around "The Twist, and when "The Twist" was removed, LP had to come up with something else.

"He has better chances with Marie than with Sophia and, realistically, nothing should change that."

From a realistic standpoint, yes. Marie, Emma, Marie should have a better chance than Sophia. But we're far past realism now, as everyone has repeated time and time. If you were to look at the poll and maybe ask fans what combination you would choose among Sophia/Dylan, Dylan/Emma, Dylan/Marie, Dylan/Ellie. I would expect the most popular answer would be Sophia/Dylan, and you can base that off the poll too. So with that said, the expectation would be that Sophia/Dylan would end up together as the preferred choice.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Friends, from time to time, like many others, I express some kind of dissatisfaction with the L&P.
Personally, I think the game is recklessly missing the dialogue between Sam and Dylan after Sofia's fashion show.
I guess it could be quite interesting.
Didn't they discuss anything after seeing this:
View attachment 1342284
???

I understand that everything cannot be perfect with the creation of a game, the course of history cannot suit absolutely every user, but still! Dylan and Sam discussed the ball game with Sofia:
View attachment 1342299

Dylan and Sam then discussed this:
View attachment 1342326
when Sophia went to change into a swimsuit.

And after the fashion show, there was no discussion!
This is strange at least! Indeed, for Dylani and Sam it was an unusual event, for the first time they saw Sofia in such a form that they could only dream of.

And the absence of any dialogue between them after that:
View attachment 1342348
View attachment 1342355
in my opinion a big flaw. This dialogue could be quite interesting. Its absence creates a kind of vacuum of understatement, a sense of failure in history.
What do you say, gentlemen perverts?

It’s hard to talk when your tongue or jaw have dropped to the floor

 

[Scarlet56]

Hey bro do you know a similar game? preferably an incestuous relationship between family etc? Thank you

Of this quality, it will be difficult.
If you told us instead what game have you already played (of this kind) it would be easier I think.

Parental Love maybe.

 

[hzjujk]

That's what I said or implied in the second part of my post. But that's not what L&P did. He didn't show any development at all. Instead, he kept Dylan's character traits the same until P.D. 12, then L&P flipped the switch and did a 180 on Dylan's traits and demeanor which he seems more mature now as you see in the exercise event with Sophia.



Well, He does everything in the household and has no more money because of his deal with Sophia. That was the reward given to him for giving that up, so he should get no benefits from anything else in that choice.

"his father is not a total asshole"

IDK, When you don't go to Dylan's game, because Liam prefers the other football, or goes fishing instead of taking Dylan to practice, which Sophia has to do it and gambling the house away, that seems like a total asshole to me.

"he has already defended his mother with physical effort, he has a big cock but no sexual experience: where is the approach to impress his mother or to go a common path."

This statement amplifies my comments about Dylan's character growth. Dylan has been in this state from day one. The defending of Sophia was good, but I didn't find it that impactful, and I thought it was a cliche. I think what killed that part for me was that he was beating up a drunk hobo. Now, the hobos were obnoxious and drunk, saying things that sober people shouldn't say, and Dylan stuck up for Sophia. But fight a drunk guy???? I think people here have been around plenty of drunk people who know drunk people say and do stupid things, and they usually walk away unless the drunk person turns violent. So in my mind, fighting a drunk person is a cheap shot because that person is impaired already, so the advantage should be with the sober person.

Now, I have no issue starting a character off with little to no experience and needs guidance, but there was very little to none at all. Maybe it could have been the "The Twist" plot that messed up the story, and everything was revolving around "The Twist, and when "The Twist" was removed, LP had to come up with something else.

"He has better chances with Marie than with Sophia and, realistically, nothing should change that."

From a realistic standpoint, yes. Marie, Emma, Marie should have a better chance than Sophia. But we're far past realism now, as everyone has repeated time and time. If you were to look at the poll and maybe ask fans what combination you would choose among Sophia/Dylan, Dylan/Emma, Dylan/Marie, Dylan/Ellie. I would expect the most popular answer would be Sophia/Dylan, and you can base that off the poll too. So with that said, the expectation would be that Sophia/Dylan would end up together as the preferred choice.

Well I was hoping for a couple of ideas, but I see you are just as perplexed as I am.
As for the attack on the homeless, I think that was exactly the opponent that Dylan could realistically defeat after two hours of combat training. Not to mention the self-confidence that must have to do so. All other opponents would again call on everyone to complain that Dylan can't do this at all and so on .... This fight is more symbolic and in my opinion should represent more of a transition in Dylan's behavior.

 

[gabrixp1]

Why do people say this is a good game? There's like 2 sex scenes