GingerSweetGirl

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Maybe I'm being naïve here but I still hope for good things in the next few updates for the game.
So do I. I actually believe that the next updates will be totally fine and good, it's just that this thread is more interesting than the game because development is so slow. The meta discussion about the game's development is more interesting to me because the wait between updates is so long that I lose interest in the actual game.
 

nexer

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So do I. I actually believe that the next updates will be totally fine and good, it's just that this thread is more interesting than the game because development is so slow. The meta discussion about the game's development is more interesting to me because the wait between updates is so long that I lose interest in the actual game.
I am worried. I'm afraid you're going to discover the oldest secret, the best kept secret, the essence of man, what makes him unique and unrepeatable :cool:
Careful guys, we have a spy in our midst ;)
 

ancienregimele

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If you want more info you need to let us know about your avatar :ROFLMAO: :sneaky: Looks like a photo and the twins are gorgeous :love:
Anyone who says the boobs in the games aren't realistic is lying. Your avatar is proof (y)
I respect the fact that people love big breasts. I find Sophia's to be far too big & totally unrealistic given her lifestyle. This is the only game (apart from occasionally, AEA) that I play which features air-bags on an MC & that's mainly because I started following the story in 2018, before they inflated. Everywhere else I put my time where my mouth is & ignore the games concerned. Maybe some day (soon?) the game will be abandoned & all this will be meaningless but until then I'll have to do my very best to ignore the issue which, amongst others, for me, has made it much less enjoyable.
 

nexer

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I respect the fact that people love big breasts. I find Sophia's to be far too big & totally unrealistic given her lifestyle. This is the only game (apart from occasionally, AEA) that I play which features air-bags on an MC & that's mainly because I started following the story in 2018, before they inflated. Everywhere else I put my time where my mouth is & ignore the games concerned. Maybe some day (soon?) the game will be abandoned & all this will be meaningless but until then I'll have to do my very best to ignore the issue which, amongst others, for me, has made it much less enjoyable.
There is a half-hearted acceptance of the situation in your posts, I think everyone would have their own opinion in the evolution of events but it is the dev who decides. Age or experience shouldn't prevent you from at least enjoying the parts you like.
As for breast size, I think the process is as follows: a large breast can create a three-stop route for a man/woman. The first stop and attraction is the breast, the second is the ass and the third is the pussy. A woman with normal breasts reduces the number of stops/attractions.
That's where the breast scenes came from, as the "next step" but an obligatory stop before going lower. It's like skiing, no gate is to be missed.
 

ancienregimele

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There is a half-hearted acceptance of the situation in your posts, I think everyone would have their own opinion in the evolution of events but it is the dev who decides. Age or experience shouldn't prevent you from at least enjoying the parts you like.
As for breast size, I think the process is as follows: a large breast can create a three-stop route for a man/woman. The first stop and attraction is the breast, the second is the ass and the third is the pussy. A woman with normal breasts reduces the number of stops/attractions.
That's where the breast scenes came from, as the "next step" but an obligatory stop before going lower. It's like skiing, no gate is to be missed.
I understand what you're saying but for me a woman didn't have to have large breasts to be devastatingly attractive. I still feel exactly the same half a century later, or in other words the woman's bust didn't have to be comprised of mega-mammaries to create your "first stop" in my case. Where I'm concerned & very much speaking personally, I was prone to like shapely, as opposed to huge, breasts back then (& they could be of any size, big included), i.e. precisely how Sophia used to be & she could hardly have been called small in that regard.

At some point L&P, for reasons best known to himself but at which I can make a reasonable guess, decided 36b wasn't enough & increased to 44DD, or thereabouts. [Anna in AEA has always been the same size]. I came close to leaving the fanbase when this occurred, because to me it was comparable to her nose being extended by an inch & then everyone having to pretend it had always been this way. That romper exacerbates the issue, because at 38 years old it is highly unlikely that any woman's breasts of that size would defy gravity the way they do. They jar on me because, unlike the shota etc., they can't be avoided.

It's not the same as Dylan or Ellie 'growing up' in their general facial features & appearances, because we are here talking about a fundamental sexual aspect of the VN. If the majority don't find it important or actually love the "jugs", as they've become, there's not much I can do, hence the half-hearted acceptance you rightly detect in my post. I keep banging on about them because I hope the Dev may read this thread sometimes & at least give it a second thought before he increases them again to DoD proportions. As it stands now Sophia looks like many another porn game stereotype. I deplore this fact but I'm still here.....for now.
 

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I understand what you're saying but for me a woman didn't have to have large breasts to be devastatingly attractive. I still feel exactly the same half a century later, or in other words the woman's bust didn't have to be comprised of mega-mammaries to create your "first stop" in my case. Where I'm concerned & very much speaking personally, I was prone to like shapely, as opposed to huge, breasts back then (& they could be of any size, big included), i.e. precisely how Sophia used to be & she could hardly have been called small in that regard.

At some point L&P, for reasons best known to himself but at which I can make a reasonable guess, decided 36b wasn't enough & increased to 44DD, or thereabouts. [Anna in AEA has always been the same size]. I came close to leaving the fanbase when this occurred, because to me it was comparable to her nose being extended by an inch & then everyone having to pretend it had always been this way. That romper exacerbates the issue, because at 38 years old it is highly unlikely that any woman's breasts of that size would defy gravity the way they do. They jar on me because, unlike the shota etc., they can't be avoided.

It's not the same as Dylan or Ellie 'growing up' in their general facial features & appearances, because we are here talking about a fundamental sexual aspect of the VN. If the majority don't find it important or actually love the "jugs", as they've become, there's not much I can do, hence the half-hearted acceptance you rightly detect in my post. I keep banging on about them because I hope the Dev may read this thread sometimes & at least give it a second thought before he increases them again to DoD proportions. As it stands now Sophia looks like many another porn game stereotype. I deplore this fact but I'm still here.....for now.
the MC has changed a lot since the first renders.. It's normal as L&P keeps learning stuff but at some point it needs to stop.
Preset out of the box expressions also don't help.
 

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Of the girls, Ellie, Patricia, Julia, Alyssa, Nathalie, Vicky, Marie and (more of a longshot as only likely in fan art) Amber.
Of the boys, Dylan, Sam, Zac, maybe Aiden, and the whole soccer team (the latter most likely as DLC).
Ordered in rough order of likelihood from highest first to lowest last.

The higher number of girls reflects that, so far, L&P seems to write the best, most erotic scenes for the ladies.
Aiden is a maybe, as I'm concerned that L&P might continue writing him acting so rough, which makes it less erotic for me.
And the soccer team gangbang is more of a fantasy that would like to see than something L&P seems likely to do.
But the first 7 girls and first 3 boys I see as (eventually) likely across 4-5+ routes
Thank you for such a detailed answer.
 
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Of the girls, Ellie, Patricia, Julia, Alyssa, Nathalie, Vicky, Marie and (more of a longshot as only likely in fan art) Amber.
Of the boys, Dylan, Sam, Zac, maybe Aiden, and the whole soccer team (the latter most likely as DLC).
Ordered in rough order of likelihood from highest first to lowest last.
I can't imagine Sophia having sex with Marie or Amber, the scene with Marie in the shower I feel like was something to add to the "lesbian arc" of Sophia and if Amber does anything (besides fuck Big D in that one route) I can see some wife switching but even thats a long shot and possibly won't happen (unless far down Good Wife path?).

I think one name that should be mentioned is Deshawn, I think if there is one threesome that is almost guaranteed that everyone skips over is Sophia-Vicky-Deshawn. Will that lead to full sex? Maybe. Like what whoever it was said, after that tutoring event I honestly can see Sophia sleeping with a lot of characters but only across many routes.
 

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A year and a half per playable day, and 3 - 4 playable days to the "wild" event is closer to 5 - 6 years
Ah I see my mistake, looking back at the link not all the planned events for day 14 and 15 are there so I made an assumption with barely any information.
 

ancienregimele

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At this rate we will get to the "wild event" in what? Three years? Going by the two updates per year.
Speculation here & on the fan art thread over the latest teaser/spoiler, which to me & many others is just a blur, suggests that something "wild" could happen at the concert. Even the blur seems to show that Sophia & Patricia have chosen to dance provocatively in the bar & put themselves on display for the discerning gentlemen of that establishment.

I don't propose to go again through the various reasons I thought the romper was a bad choice, or the sheer stupidity of Sophia putting those beach balls in the shop window but the crowd chanting, "show us your tits" does seem very plausible to me, as to a lesser extent, does Patricia obliging by lifting Sophia's top up or down, which has been suggested as a response.

I noticed a strange thing over the last month, speaking as someone who has defended the blackmail & coercion in what is after all a corruption game. Righteous indignation & howls of protest regarding the activities of Aiden & Bennett, (remember him?), these I've tried to defend against & counter on numerous occasions. I don't just defend but actively enjoy what the scurrilous pair get up to. Sometimes I've felt like part of a tiny minority. Now, ironically, it's me who doesn't care for the possible, even probable consequences of the sister's activities, or their seemingly naive gyration into real danger, while the majority of fans appear to have no undue worries about the situation.

This is because what could happen in such a setting, with such a well-knit group to encourage each other & demand more & more, would be at an entirely different level & I mean BAD. Now of course we've been assured that there will be no rape in this game but there are things arguably just as bad or worse that can happen with all the ingredients present. It wouldn't follow on from the art class, that's certain. Once more back to my younger years but I'll give you 3 guesses what can be done with a beer bottle & a crowd of inebriated men & NO I wasn't one of the perpetrators but I knew the woman it happened to. It's about realism, yet again. This is probably one time when it's better that we no longer seem to have it in AWAM.
 
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Not just that, but are people still going to be interested in the game in 5+ years?
I do not care if its 5 years or more I think I will play this game till the day it gets abandoned or the dev decides to do a rushed ending. I'm a non patreon, so of course, the patreons may feel differently.
Just saying.
After this update, I'm not expecting anything decent content-wise for around 2 years.
Since I know you like mainly lesbian content, if by "decent" you only mean lesbian events then I have to strongly disagree.
 
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