VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Deleted member 3325933]

This update leaves me with mixed feelings. Some good scenes, no doubt, but the writing for many parts was kinda...meh. Story progression, as expected from 1/3rd of a playable day, is barely noticeable.

I'm not a fan of the Kathy/Andy event, to be honest. The topic of their conversation came pretty much out of the blue and felt really unnatural the way it was brought up. To me, the execution of this event seemed hurried and the dialogue unrealistic. To think that the creation took L&P 2(?) weeks makes it pretty laughable considering the amount of renders presented there, and the apartment itself being a slightly edited default asset.

Sam's concert also was underwhelming to me. I expected more as it supposedly made for ~40% of the new content. It was quite uneventful, with the spicy parts more or less being at the end of it, which was an entirely different scenery. I was hoping to see some familiar faces at the "concert" itself, such as Neil and Amber, Dylan and Ellie, friends from school etc. Characters we'd already seen basically. Atleast that's what I'd imagine the first gig of a teenage band to look like. But no parents or atleast some friends at all? To me it was boring and felt pretty bland the way it was done. The alone time with Sam and Sophia on the other hand was nice, even though L&P once again managed to keep it a teasing scene and nothing more.

The Dylan/Ellie event is hardly worth mentioning.

Highlight of this update for me personally was the Nathalie event, especially the final bits with a somewhat daring Sophia.

Good thing I didn't go in with too high expectations, so I can't really say that I'm disappointed. 5/10 update for me simply because I don't see how this can be worth anywhere near 5 months of development. Like others already said, a 2-3 month cycle for this would probably make everyone happy, and I'd give it a much higher rating if that was the case, but it isn't. Let the blueballing continue!

Spoiler cover plz Palm

 

[Habawa]

being a dik got 4000+ renders per update .. but they also have 15k patreons probably raking in a few million per year. So my friends, if we want to see sophia getting real action anytime soon the only solution is to give L&P more money!! Let's go y'all lets star citizen this shit

 

[palmtrees89]

Spoiler cover plz Palm

My bad. Tried not to spoil any details, but I've put a spoiler tag on the review part now.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

This isn't unique to porn, it's common throughout fiction. The term "Moonlighting Curse" literally refers to a hit TV show from the 80s that fell apart once the two leads got together. Once you break the tension, most pieces of fiction lose that intangible element that made them special. Very few works of fiction can maintain the audience's interest once the "will they, won't they?" question has been answered.

Hardcore sex is almost so easy to come by that it doesn't differentiate you from the crowd anymore. Creators are better off finding their niche and sticking to it, and only occasionally releasing the sexual tension in short, deliberate, moments. If that isn't for you then that's ok, but it isn't clever to be dismissive of what other find erotic. Absolutely no one should be surprised by the content of this update. If you expected anything else you have only yourself to blame. Yeah, do we all wish these development cycles were faster? Absolutely. Are we all frustrated that it takes 4+ months to get a new update? Yeah. But if you (and I mean anyone, not you specifically) thought anyone was going to have sex with Sophia in this update then you weren't paying attention.

There's tension but no release. Every scene this update, inside of what was happening, could have been better without going over the top. That's the thing with this update.
It's bland. An update of an erotic game without nudity with 1 scene where MC acts as a groupie with her crazy Sister, gets a massage from another crazy chick at home (remember when she undressed at the parlor? she didnt here, not even an option) and another scene where she gets in the hot tub with the kid who already saw a part of her tits. In all of these scenes, she could've gone a bit further but didn't. Absolutely bland. Hence 5 days ago when I said "wow they kiss".

As for the update itself and the development, I'm failing to see where this takes 5 months to develop (all assets were have been used before except the bar, which is mostly default assets, and the appartment, which is as default as it can be, barring the lights on both)
That last cathy scene taking 10 days.. Someone has to be out of their minds to believe that those 17 renders take 10 days to create and render, I mean, come on.

Remember, this is a woman that in the last days:

• Took her top off in a sauna with unknown people
• Took her top off in the massage parlor
• Let her student put oil on her
• Took her top for unkown kids in the art class
• Made out with her daughter all smushy
• Jacked off 2 people
• Showed her tits to her son
• Modeled in a bikini for her son/sam

And now we're supposed to be "wow she's in lingerie in front of Natalie at her home for a massage". Yeah makes absolute sense, great writing.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

being a dik got 4000+ renders per update .. but they also have 15k patreons probably raking in a few million per year. So my friends, if we want to see sophia getting real action anytime soon the only solution is to give L&P more money!! Let's go y'all lets star citizen this shit

No, wrong, it's the other way around. He works first and gets money after, specially with his history of not fulfilling any of his patreon promises.

BADik got that money rolling in because he's a professional and showed everyone that, with his other game. Simple as that.

This update leaves me with mixed feelings. Some good scenes, no doubt, but the writing for many parts was kinda...meh. Story progression, as expected from 1/3rd of a playable day, is barely noticeable.

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Good thing I didn't go in with too high expectations, so I can't really say that I'm disappointed. 5/10 update for me simply because I don't see how this can be worth anywhere near 5 months of development. Like others already said, a 2-3 month cycle for this would probably make everyone happy, and I'd give it a much higher rating if that was the case, but it isn't. Let the blueballing continue!

It's exactly this. After 5+ months since the last update, this was bad.
It's actually 2 weeks for 13 renders. Let that sink in. Less than 1 render per day. To the experts who work as L&Ps PR team, tell me exactly how could that take more than 2 days to make.

 

[ar1122]

wtf was this update ¨??¨

 

[WildBillKatt]

I have to say this: I think people are whining at this point, and unable to let go of the game's history.

This has been one of the most criticized games for "milking", and probably rightfully so. The game moved too slow for years.

I will say this though, I think the dev is sensitive to the criticism and has upped the pace substantially. If you look at it fairly, Sophia at this point is basically a giant slut acting out her urges towards other women and teenaged boys in a rapidly escalating manner. Pretty much every update has a couple examples of Sophia smashing through barriers. I think the dev has now earned a bit of trust that the story will be moved along at a reasonable pace, until such time as we again see otherwise.

 

[CainKova]

It was a sex game, halfway into development it changed into an erotic game and now we're at the point that a tit can't even be shown. It all changes and will keep changing as long as he keeps supporters paying him for this kind of bullshit.

It doesn't take a genius to see that the game had 1 pace in the first half and another pace now.
Sophia has been naked in front of 5 guys in the gym, 3 guys in a sauna. Now she shows up in a conventional lingerie in front of the mailman and we're suposed to be "wow". Yeah its a good scene and a good surprise but the outfit choice should have been different. Get her on a robe with only the bottom underwear, much better. Oh yeah still not good enough, because she has done that before. Which is the mantra of this game. See Sophia moving 1 small degree forward in corruptio every 5 months.

Then the rockbar scene, in the bar, bland.

Sam scene, like I said a few days ago jokingly "wow they kiss woowww a kiss". Sam should've just pushed her more or at least we should have the option as Sam to push it more.

Dylan with another scene that no one remembers anymore.

Cathy and andy event... Can any L&P stan here seriously tell me how could he take 5-10 days for those 17 renders? The appartment was done, he only added a few props, lights. Even the fucking travel suitcase was in the same place as the default asset lmao

In the end, whoever like to be robbed in daylight, just subscribe to L&P.

This had so much potential... Now this game looks like a "Daring Novel" that fat women read in crappy American movies.

 

[Jack-ish]

I have to say this: I think people are whining at this point, and unable to let go of the game's history.

This has been one of the most criticized games for "milking", and probably rightfully so. The game moved too slow for years.

I will say this though, I think the dev is sensitive to the criticism and has upped the pace substantially. If you look at it fairly, Sophia at this point is basically a giant slut acting out her urges towards other women and teenaged boys in a rapidly escalating manner. Pretty much every update has a couple examples of Sophia smashing through barriers. I think the dev has now earned a bit of trust that the story will be moved along at a reasonable pace, until such time as we again see otherwise.

More like, has no choice but to produce content. After trying to squeeze milk out of the bones of this long dead cow, the dev is at the point where it's shit or get off the pot (only took 4 years). Now things will likely get rushed through, as there is no way to make the story's sexual content be worthy of such a long wait.

 

[heatherwendy]

Anyone else having issues opening the game ? after hrs to down load it I cant extract it .If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

中国人想订阅，基本不可能了。世界银行，关闭了绝大多数，国内银行外汇口子。
我的就关了，如果想开可以，交184美元的开口费，另外银行卡，必须存9800多RMB。才可以使用外汇。

我现在，已经买不了国外的东西了，我身边人的银行卡外汇口子全封了。
我知道国内有人可以，要不是有钱的，要不是有权的。 老百姓，别想了。

所以，现在国内什么什么国际品牌，什么中外合资，99%全是假的。 最后那一点，99%是当官的开的。

在中国就是这样，当官的，想做什么就做什么，什么法律都管不了。 老百姓各种法管你。
我在这网站上待了几年了，第一次看到，有人敲汉字的，所以很稀奇，就回复回复。

English translation please or you are just killing poor electrons.

 

[ST-9Pol]

Pretty sure, Superbowl is always on Sunday and not on Saturday (Bar Scene)

hahaha... and bikers always park rear wheel to curb ( not front in)... and I dont think I can name another band with two 5 string Bass players but well... you get that..

 

[Alley_Cat]

Four years since the game was released, and MC had sex with her husband once hahaha. this is bizarre

Ok I think we have to deal with the issue that is on all our minds right now whether you are a fan of Sam or not, WTF was da ?????

A true AWAM fan will eventually learn to keep expectations as low as possible so as not to be disappointed, but what the hell happened at Sam's event? Did L&P get divine inspiration or did he have an epiphany? Im happy for Sam and his fans and also happy for Sophia who is letting go (slowly and painfully) but the bad part is that Sam is third in the popularity poll and with far fewer events than Dylan (who is in place one) has just been overtaken, a VN has to have consistency, a character that has more points and events with the MC must have priority in the "supposed" hot scenes, for me it would have been better than the Hot-Tub fun had been with Dylan (they talk about this in the park) and leave any "flirting" (or more) with Sam for the next day that would have been the most “fair”.


For me personally the whole Sam event.......
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Even Nat has gone further than Dylan, and this is only her 5th event.

still 0 sex scenes right ?

Sex scenes with Sophia, correct. Come back in 2031.

What are the contitions for the natalie event? It just goes normal without any choice.

No idea. But if you use my lesbian route walkthrough from the OP and save, you'll get the full Nat event. Not sure about the other saves.

I need spoilers (Pic) ... Something interesting happened in this update?

The Nat event is pretty hot.

any hot lesbian scenes between Sophia and Ellie in this update?

With Ellie, no. Come back in around 2 years.

I finally got around to playing the update. The amount of story told is simply not enough to justify the wait. I don't know if I'll be following this project anymore. The inannity of the Ellie event coupled with the execution of the Andy/Cathy event, followed up by the conversation between Liam and Sophia, and especially where Liam was pushing, has killed off just about all of my curiosity.

Sad, because it is still visually stunning work.

It's a Dylan event, not an Ellie one. She just happens to be present.

what scene in the sofa?
i have followed the lesbian route and finished the update.
the only two hot scenes with Sophia and Ellie is in the shower

The Nat event is with Sophia and Nat on the sofa. See my lesbian route walkthrough. Mamonetti's may also show it.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

It's a Dylan event, not an Ellie one. She just happens to be present.

Its a non-event. We get it, L&P needed some filler to pad the "Ellie owes Dylan" storyline but damn, that's a CTRL event.

hahaha... and bikers always park rear wheel to curb ( not front in)... and I dont think I can name another band with two 5 string Bass players but well... you get that..

You're all wrong, L&P is a perfectionist acording to his PR team, he wouldn't make those mistakes.

 

[Bane71]

I will also express my assessments of this update.
In general, I liked the update and I even get the impression that several developers are working on the game, not one.
The only thing I do not understand and do not support the developer in this is that during Natalie's massage it was necessary to bare Sophia's breasts! The bra was clearly superfluous!
The same thing happened at the moment of Sam's kiss. To begin with, everything was great, but at least he had to put his hand under the bra and at the end push it away to kiss the nipples, but unfortunately this did not happen.

This is constructive criticism, but there is little of it on the forum, unfortunately, mostly nonsense.

 

[Kubrows]

I have not got a chance to play this yet but I'm recharging my batteries for my vibrator, was thinking on having it inside my panties or maybe vag? while I play it, should i be playing with myself a little bit before I start playing the new update or during? hmmmmmmmmmmm

also! I've been so busy today all I wanna do is play the new update >.<

 

[Solcom]

WOW 0.150 UPDATE
I have no words to describe my feeling
jajajajaja

 

[xxxorro]

Just realised something. The Nathalie event has a GW/Filthy choice, with the ideal choice being the Filthy one. So we might be wrong about Nat being the woman for the GW Threesome.

You are right, I quickly checked and it seems the first time that a "pure lesbian" event has also filthy points. It happened at the club with Patricia and then Tyler.
On the other hand you have the Antonio event that is in the lesbian route with Alyssa but that only award filthy points.

He once explained that "Filthy points are more like cheating points and finding other ways "to get some fun"!":

1) For the Good Wife path it was actually planned that Sophia will experiment a few things with her husband. With the oral sex scene and Sophia's reactions on mouth-creampie and deepthroat, I tried to imply, that her behavior to this could change later! I mean, why shouldn't it? How do you come to the conclusion that this won't happen? You don't need the filthy points for that because Sophia will do that as a Good Wife! Filthy points are more like cheating points and finding other ways "to get some fun"! Sophia can also get filthy in love for her hubby!

So I don't think that the filthy points awarded here automatically place Nathalie in the FW. She played a game with Sophia to challenge/push her and the filthy point is for Sophia being "naughty" (and for whatever will happen with the postman in the future, if anything).
That does not mean that Nathalie will be part of the threesome in the GW either. We have hints from what Liam said but still no clear evidence obviously.

 

[NathanSlayer]

Why you guys dont understand.. LnP is playing the real life role of Liam,, he wants to be a cuck, but then he gets jealous. That's the reason of these kind of updates.
He is the kind of guy wo would make his wife dance im a strip club but would get offended if someone tried to buy her and take her home.

 

[maybes4]

How to get the scene Sam licking sophia?
For me it just Someone returned and sophia told Sam to leave