Alley_Cat

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I honestly don't know what you're talking about. What's the bonus storyline? I think I'm missing some important context. I would be SHOCKED if Dylan and Ellie have no further story developments after PD 16. Shoot me a PM if you like, it may be easier to have a conversation there.
It may take a present/former patron like KillJoys to confirm, but it has been said that the bonus storyline will culminate before playable day 16. And since the Ellie route only really starts at playable day 16, it means that in terms of the Ellie storyline, the bonus storyline of Dylan/Ellie is entirely meaningless. In terms of the Dylan storyline, which is what the bonus storyline is relevant to, that's a different matter, but since I don't play that, I'm not going to comment on.
 

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Because I don't think Morello ever cared about the money, it was just an excuse to get close to Sophia. It would not surprise me at all if Morello exploited Liam's gambling problem once he (Morello) learned who Sophia was. Sure, Morello wanted his money back, but he was far more interested in using the threat of the debt to get closer to Sophia. I've also NEVER believed L&P that there was no sexual intent from Morello towards Sophia. I know he denied a "indecent proposal" situation, but I think he's either outright lying or he's lying by omission.
My impression of the chat was all about LARRY. I think that is the alternative that will come up if Aiden is eliminated by Don Morello. nyuk nyuk nyuk
 

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I guess it depends on what you mean by "realistic". There are definitely guys like Sam, so even though the situation is unrealistic his actions are pretty believable. Maybe the better question is "Who's unrealistic?" Aiden is definitely a character that is pure fiction. A 17 year old mastermind that can't be touched and manipulates everything around him? Sure. :rolleyes: Bennett was pretty dumb too, but he's played such a minor role that I don't count him.

Morello is also a character that could only exist in fiction. Handsome, powerful, dangerous, wealthy, criminal, with honor? Yeah...ok!

But that's ok, it's only a game and not every character has to be 100% realistic.
17? I thought all characters were over 18, but as to Aiden, I think he is older than the rest, having been kept behind at school, he probably gets failed on purpose so he doesn't have to leave school where he can bully everyone.

You been living a sheltered life and don't believe people like Morello exist, they didn't make all those gangster movies out of pure fiction, proper gangsters exist, not like these wannabe 'gangstas' these days.
 

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Waiting for the teaser about aiden's 4th task.
Releasing single event is good news to me, bc actually idc about lesbian content so this solution may prevent me from waiting a year to get what idc
 
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17? I thought all characters were over 18, but as to Aiden, I think he is older than the rest, having been kept behind at school, he probably gets failed on purpose so he doesn't have to leave school where he can bully everyone.

You been living a sheltered life and don't believe people like Morello exist, they didn't make all those gangster movies out of pure fiction, proper gangsters exist, not like these wannabe 'gangstas' these days.
I wouldn't say it's a sheltered life to not have interactions with mafia dons that inspire movies.
 

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can i ask you which male character from the game is most realistic from your woman view?
I would have thought the most realistic would actually be Liam the husband, Zac seems a reasonable kid, I think we might all of had a crush on a teacher at school, so that could be realistic.
 
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I would have thought the most realistic would actually be Liam the husband, Zac seems a reasonable kid, I think we might all of had a crush on a teacher at school, so that could be realistic.
Yeah, I mean Liam, Zach, Sam, Neil, even Dylan are pretty believable. Dylan's weird because of the fetish he's here to fill, but I do like that's kinda an awkward dopey teenager, who isn't super smooth with girls yet. Clearly he's being positioned to be a major love interest and that will probably spoil the character development at some point, but I do like how he behaves around other girls. Liam is probably the most realistic. Sadly, guys like Neil are extremely common.
 

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You have to wait 4years more if you want to see Dlyan get to fuck his mom. i'm not joking dude.
4? You're optimistic!! It's more likely to be 15-20, since we're talking about playable day 25 before he'll get the chance.
17? I thought all characters were over 18, but as to Aiden, I think he is older than the rest, having been kept behind at school, he probably gets failed on purpose so he doesn't have to leave school where he can bully everyone.

You been living a sheltered life and don't believe people like Morello exist, they didn't make all those gangster movies out of pure fiction, proper gangsters exist, not like these wannabe 'gangstas' these days.
I think you'll find many of the characters, particularly the boys like Dylan and Sam, are around 17. But yeah, because he's a moronic dipshit, Aiden has been held back, so may be older.
 

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4? You're optimistic!! It's more likely to be 15-20, since we're talking about playable day 25 before he'll get the chance.

I think you'll find many of the characters, particularly the boys like Dylan and Sam, are around 17. But yeah, because he's a moronic dipshit, Aiden has been held back, so may be older.
They aren't allowed to be 17, if they are under 18 that is seen a paedophilia in the US, that's why most games it states at the start that all characters are 18+. AWAM states on the title screen that all characters are at least 18 years old.
 

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Did anyone else notice that v0.150 had that new notice on the main screen that "all characters are 18 years old"? I went back and double checked that it wasn't present on v0.130. The age situation with the characters is stupid, confused, and completely unnecessary. Would it have been so hard to set the game in an actual university? Nope, instead devs try to get cute and keep the age of the characters as undefined as possible. The second side job put a spotlight on the age issue in ways that I don't think L&P was prepared for.
 

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Actually, we do. It was announced at the start of the bonus storyline that it would be completed by playable day 16, if not earlier. Now considering that playable day 15 is only the horseriding event with Patricia, can you honestly tell me that in the two odd events between now and then that Ellie can flip a complete 180?
I find the distraction between Dylan and Ellie intriguing because we know almost nothing about the interactions between these two prior to the plane ride to San Alejo. What we do know about Ellie is what L&P told us in her introduction, "Though she is that popular and desired she isn't stuck up at all and is even a little shy. Though outwardly she is often acts bitchy and extremely cool." To me, this resonates of someone who wears a mask and has not developed a strong self-image foundation. This implies that she is swayed rather easily by others who show some force of will, or personal conviction.
Ellie's actions moving through the story so far reinforces this impression. Ellie hooks up with a tattooed man (Logan), and soon is sporting tattoos of her own. Ellie encounters a lesbian (Julia) and in spite of having no experience being attracted to women in the past becomes Julia's girlfriend. Note that this happens even if the player makes every decision to the contrary. Finally, even after telling Christine that she is smoking due to peer pressure, yields to peer pressure herself and takes a puff.
Here is the part that I would find interesting and somewhat different from other games I have seen. What if it is Ellie who has the crush on Dylan, and is over-acting her distaste for him as a cover because... she knows that if she acknowledges that she cares for him at all she would fall into something that her head says is wrong. In this case it would not be a 180, but rather the great reveal! I'd buy that for a dollar!
Thank you for your kind attention, Jack.
 

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Did anyone else notice that v0.150 had that new notice on the main screen that "all characters are 18 years old"? I went back and double checked that it wasn't present on v0.130. The age situation with the characters is stupid, confused, and completely unnecessary. Would it have been so hard to set the game in an actual university? Nope, instead devs try to get cute and keep the age of the characters as undefined as possible. The second side job put a spotlight on the age issue in ways that I don't think L&P was prepared for.
In American High School and they usually stay in school at a later age than other countries and they can also be kept back another year if they don't graduate. I've played other games where the dev allows you to change the age of the characters even though they state the characters are all over 18 for legal protection. True, there is no way any of those kids are 18 in the 2nd job, they look between the ages of 10/11 and maybe 13/14.
 

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As for the quality of writing, everyone should accept an average level. English is not mandatory, not all developers are native English speakers, and the ability to juggle from the jargon of repeaters in high school to the Queen's English takes years of study.

The picky ones should demonstrate their linguistic capabilities in a language other than their native language. Only then will we be able to talk.
Absofuckinglutely. Not that tough to figure out to whom you're indirectly referring to.

Mr. L&P is slightly astute and smarter than some may think. Since he's with big boys in the sandbox now, different set of rules gotta be applied here. Initial release only in English for obvious reasons. More or less comprehensible depiction of events, inner thoughts etc.

How many of us actually took time to read every line of this update? I know I skipped at least 30% and I bet that out of hundreds if not thousands who played it the ratio would be higher as the audience of these particular games not playing them to savor the exquisite syllable of the artist. No one expects the rhymes akin to Byron's' or the depth of ideas similar to Locke's.
AWAM isn't on the level of dialogue "why can't his sausage meet her buns" so far and that's more than enough for the majority.

I guess it would've been an amusing experiment if the dev releases one of his updates in German or his native language and then adds translation via the patch later on. I'd laugh my ass off to witness the reaction of the advocates of the language purity.
 

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They aren't allowed to be 17, if they are under 18 that is seen a paedophilia in the US, that's why most games it states at the start that all characters are 18+. AWAM states on the title screen that all characters are at least 18 years old.
Do you honestly think Ava's sons are older than 13? You're a moron if you think otherwise. L&P is treading a fine line, to which he will eventually be caught. Same as the incest storylines. Eventually he's going to be caught.
 
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I think it'll be a minor step backwards for him, Sophia may chide him for what happened in the hot tub, but I don't think she'll be too upset. And if Sam went and picked Ellie up, that could completely change Sophia's attitude. But I don't see Sam getting anywhere close to the same sort of action that he got in the hot tub. He'll need a few more events before he takes another big step forward.
Agreed. The way she let it progress with Sam makes you wonder how far it would have gone if Liam did not show up. She wants to blame Sam but she is just as responsible for letting it get so far ahead.
 
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