VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

We are in PD12, 18 more days and I wonder: nothing will come out? Dylan or Ellie won't hear anything about Sophia. It would be an unrealistic situation, if they don't hear any rumors.

Mr.Murrey/her students, twitter should of melted by now with the amount of traffic

 

[nexer]

And if Dylan/Ellie find out something, will they keep their interest in Sophia or lose it (to use no other words)?
Even Sam, he assumes he's the only one besides Liam. That, in an ideal world, it would be him and only him. Will Sam find out sometime later?

 

[Old Dog]

And if Dylan/Ellie find out something, will they keep their interest in Sophia or lose it (to use no other words)?
Even Sam, he assumes he's the only one besides Liam. That, in an ideal world, it would be him and only him. Will Sam find out sometime later?

Alyssa picked up on Sophia not wearing a bra after she nagged Zac about Sophia but how this conversation came up with Zac who knows.
Dylan has seen his mother not wearing a bra(2nd task) but he didn't seem bothered by it.

 

[ancienregimele]

noone wants aiden events , dev insist on aiden events.
i dont understand the reason of this.
everybody love dylan and ellie but still there is no event on updates.......

I want Aiden events. I want Aiden events & don't care if I get Dylan events or not. Despite the apparent lack of support for the blackmail routes on this thread, there are many others who want Aiden events. Check the Patreon poll results on the popularity of the characters. Understand that everybody doesn't want exactly what you want. Sweeping statements are best qualified with the addition of "IMO", or better still rephrased in a way that reflects reality. If this game was just about incest I'd have stopped playing years ago. As it is, IMO, we receive far more than 'enough' but what would happen if I made a statement such as, "No-one wants Dylan events"? Judging by previous experience after less controversial or basic statements of opinion, let's just say the reaction would not be good.

Anyone wishing for Dylan or Ellie events will get them but in the meantime will have to develop their "patience of a Saint" capacity, along with the rest of us.

 

[hzjujk]

I agree with GingerSweetGirl. I really don't think any unhealthy relationship is ever going to seriously develop between Sophia and Dylan, and actually hope it doesn't for the sake of this game's credibility, what's acceptable and what isn't. Sorry if that's disappointing to some. Despite the impending corruption we all anticipate, Sophia's far too much a of a straight shooter in this respect. What may ruin this game is to see Sophia completely relinquish all sense of morals and restraint we have come to accept from her, even depend on, precisely why so many are drawn to this game. Ok, it might be fun watching her losing them, and there may have been certain temptations toward Dylan, but only in the respect of considering the boy's welfare, which is looking up in any case with distractions from girls his own age and the possibility of something initiating between Dylan and Amber, leading to all kinds of possibilities. All in all, Sophia seems to have far too much on her plate anyway, and I sometimes wonder if this woman needs to take a good rest. But maybe not just yet!!

Incest is a feature of this game, so Sophia will have sex with Dylan or / and Elli/Patricia. There is no need to discuss this. There is as far as I know even the confirmation of the developer about a romantic path for Dylan and Sophia, it is wishful thinking that he is not included in the game. However, how Dylan is supposed to distinguish himself from his father/Sam/Zac and others remains the developer's secret.

It will be interesting later who will find out about who in relation to Sophia. Was the bikini-show with Sam a way to increase cuckold points or a possible merging of the two routes later?

I see opinions that Dylan will be left at the end, but I keep reminding people that a "cum collector" doesn't get the interest of many anymore even if he is a relative. Except for cuckold_route I doubt L&P will leave Dylan at the end and for Dylan/Ellie, it may be a genuine "cockblocker/pussyblocker" to discover Sophia's relationship with Sam, for example.

The "consequences" after the 2nd solution in Aiden's case would be interesting to find out.

That's what I still don't understand either. When choosing between Elli and Alyssa, it was ultimately the player's choice whether to meet Elli or Alyssa, which ended the Alyssa route. No conflict but simply: I don't accept an invitation to go shopping and the one possible partner withdraws. This was a very cheap solution and not very credible at the time.
If Sam / Dylan / Zac / Alyssa / Elli ever find out they are just a menu item on Sophia's weekly menu will there be such a thing as conflict? Or will it be like other games that all the characters just accept it. When I think back to the discussion about Dylan's involvement in the Aiden blackmail and L&P's lack of understanding about it, I have to think that the developer may not see the problems here either.
Dylan in particular would be a dangerous candidate for Sophia's sexual ambitions. If he ever notices what Sophia does with Sam, for example, he has to be very submissive not to side with his father afterwards.

Edit: Of course, it's not easy for the developer to include such jealousy scenes and hurt feelings scene in a porn game and would be very brave. Because many players do not want such a thing - to deal with the consequences of their game decisions.

 

[Ruby Tuesday]

I want Aiden events. I want Aiden events & don't care if I get Dylan events or not. Despite the apparent lack of support for the blackmail routes on this thread, there are many others who want Aiden events. Check the Patreon poll results on the popularity of the characters. Understand that everybody doesn't want exactly what you want. Sweeping statements are best qualified with the addition of "IMO", or better still rephrased in a way that reflects reality. If this game was just about incest I'd have stopped playing years ago. As it is, IMO, we receive far more than 'enough' but what would happen if I made a statement such as, "No-one wants Dylan events"? Judging by previous experience after less controversial or basic statements of opinion, let's just say the reaction would not be good.

Anyone wishing for Dylan or Ellie events will get them but in the meantime will have to develop their "patience of a Saint" capacity, along with the rest of us.

Agree. The Aiden, more specifically Aiden/Andre events are a prime motivator for this game, and central to Sophia's emancipation in a public arena. They are key, plausible, outrageous, and will become even more so, adding the kind of tension this game needs, even if they stretch imagination to the limits. Crucially, these events are included in the original script of the game by L&P who has expressed surprise toward those who do not favour them. To his credit he also generously considered this, hence the introduction of playing alternatives. The tasks will go all the way to twelve for the combined pleasure and gratification of both Aiden and Sophia.

 

[nexer]

Something that I noticed and don't feel is talked about much.

No matter which route we choose, whether Hanging out with Alyssa or Yoga...

Dylan meets Zac on this day in both cases.

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It makes sense on the Alyssa route but even on the Yoga route, going out of the way just to meet Zac. What could be the reason.

We are also not told, what he wants to get from Zac, neither do Sophia and Patricia ask that.

I speculate it could be something that comes into play later which L&P passed up in a subtle manner.

Alyssa picked up on Sophia not wearing a bra after she nagged Zac about Sophia but how this conversation came up with Zac who knows.
Dylan has seen his mother not wearing a bra(2nd task) but he didn't seem bothered by it.

Day 18, after Aiden's 2nd task and after that flash. Did they (Dylan and Zac) talk about it?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Don't know if it is him mixing up things or if he changed plans. When is this post from ? Mine is from 12 August 2021.

08/25/19

 

[hzjujk]

Even if it was just talking about the upskirt they could have done it on the phone. Why have Dylan and Zac meet in all cases. Especially if the purpose is not told. It has to be something that will be major or a twist of some kind. Dylan says he has to get something from Zac.

Though maybe this is just overanalyzing the scene or this could have related to the old Dylan twist. Now that the twist has been removed this little scene may no longer have any value.

I also noticed these scenes at the time. My assumption at that time was that Dylan only needed an excuse to tell Zac immediately what he had just experienced. Except for the jerking off in the shower, of course, that would be too embarrassing. But I dismissed that idea at the time - too unlikely. Unless Zac and Dylan partnered in the pursuit of their mothers. But even this I would rather banish to the realm of fantasy.

 

[kewlbigdan]

Based on his statements about this new "special" thingy, Animations could totally be it.


Meh. Nothing I'd be hyped about at all, but that's just my personal opinion. He wouldn't need a new computer with 2x 3090's for that though, so I don't think this is it.


Agreed. Minigames etc. would be pretty pointless imo. AWAM isn't the right game for this kind of stuff. And again, I don't think L&P would need another powerhouse of a computer just to add some puzzles.


Doesn't sound very likely to me either based on his statements, and still wouldn't require a second computer unless he's made a clone of himself to work on two rigs at the same time.


This, to me, sounds like the least possible addition to the game. L&P said we'd be seeing the first results of this new "special" thing in the upcoming release, so it has to be something we can see in-game. There'd also be no need to contact other developers if this was the "special" task. (And let's not forget about the computer )


If it's not Animations, I don't know what else it could be. I feel like that's the only thing that makes sense from reading L&P's posts. Granted, these posts were all over the place and kind of a contradicting back and forth, leaving the players with no real information whatsoever.

There is no reason that Animation has to be in this update as he states. Animation could happen during any update. He says it is required for this update. Animation makes no sense given this.
I still think it is a game mechanic of some sort that will be the basis for the game going forward which would require it to be in the 1st part 2 update.

 

[palmtrees89]

There is no reason that Animation has to be in this update as he states. Animation could happen during any update. He says it is required for this update. Animation makes no sense given this.
I still think it is a game mechanic of some sort that will be the basis for the game going forward which would require it to be in the 1st part 2 update.

When and where did L&P state that there's no reason for Animation in this update? When and where did L&P state that this "special" whatever is required for this update? None of this can be found in L&P's statements which had been discussed in this forum. If you know more than we do, I'll gladly be enlightened by your wisdom.

 

[nexer]

I wonder if Ellie will be so eager to lick Sophia after she finds out that Sam "visits" Sophia often

 

[Old Dog]

I wonder if Ellie will be so eager to lick Sophia after she finds out that Sam "visits" Sophia often

You imagination works in a very strange way

 

[crowdstar]

Quick question, what hapened to the guy that made the Android Ports?

 

[nexer]

You imagination works in a very strange way

a little drama never hurts

 

[neminem]

I certainly hope Tyler gets another shot at Sophia. At the nightclub, he was "climbing that stariway to heaven" when it all came crashing down upon him. Talk about a classic case of BBs. Perhaps scenario c/b Tyler lands big underwear campaign associated with Liam's firm. Coming out party for Tyler. Liam out of town and his boss, Mr. Harris, suggests that Sophia stand in for him at Tyler's party. Tyler had seen Sophia visiting Liam at his office after nightclub event and in ad campaign discussions with Mr. Harris mentions her and intimates about nightclub. Mr. Harris very intrigued especially after his "view" of Sophia when she came to surprise Liam at this office. Night of party, Sophia hits the booze and Tyler and/or Mr. Harris hit on Sophia.

You can leave Dylan at the end "only" if he doesn't find out about Sophie's escapades.
For some people a woman's relationship with someone specific is a cuckblocker and the situation where he discovers she's a slut kills any interest.
Because if Dylan/Ellie finds out it's bad for the whole family.
Even in Ellie's case, (ok with Tyler) but Sam is a whole different story.

 

[uniformless]

Let

I certainly hope Tyler gets another shot at Sophia. At the nightclub, he was "climbing that stariway to heaven" when it all came crashing down upon him. Talk about a classic case of BBs. Perhaps scenario c/b Tyler lands big underwear campaign associated with Liam's firm. Coming out party for Tyler. Liam out of town and his boss, Mr. Harris, suggests that Sophia stand in for him at Tyler's party. Tyler had seen Sophia visiting Liam at his office after nightclub event and in ad campaign discussions with Mr. Harris mentions her and intimates about nightclub. Mr. Harris very intrigued especially after his "view" of Sophia when she came to surprise Liam at this office. Night of party, Sophia hits the booze and Tyler and/or Mr. Harris hit on Sophia.

Nightclub event mean casino debt. If casino debt, then Sophia doesn't "surprise" Liam at his office, right?

 

[Old Dog]

a little drama never hurts

You missed out the other 40 dozen people in the que

 

[neminem]

Let


Nightclub event mean casino debt. If casino debt, then Sophia doesn't "surprise" Liam at his office, right?

Well you've got me there. No wonder I dropped out of that logic class!

 

[nexer]

You missed out the other 40 dozen people in the que

We commented that "Sophia does San Alejo". 40 dozen is little for a big city