Deleted member 3325933

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You said”so stop spreading the bs that he is only in for money”
Well other devs out there suspend their subscription month prices when they are late on delivering updates, not this guy & most of us are former subscribers to him (myself included)
Orb Origin suspended his accounts every time he stopped producing, Cheeky Gimp and team did same.
 

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My friend, think about the meaning of what you wrote yourself!
If he is obliged to refuse money in case of delays or delays in the provision of his product, then all of us are equally obliged to stop receiving his product from the moment we unsubscribe and stop paying him.

But you understand perfectly well without me that the number of people who receive his product for free is many times higher than the number of those who pay him!

That is why your statement is devoid of common sense and the fact that someone else does it does not matter. This is a voluntary choice of the developer and based on different personal qualities and working conditions, everyone determines their own rules.
Apples and Oranges Bane71. The point was the relationship of the Dev to their patrons. Those devs also chat (ON THIS SITE) freely and openly with the community. They clearly state why they are delaying the production and make their own decision on suspending payments. They also work hard to manage the time and are at least in the same month for a release as they predicted. Has L&P ever had a chat on this site where he was not ranting where he was not accusing? Has he ever honestly stated the problems and why he has a delay with a best guess at a solution or is it always "Something special" "Be patient you will love it" BS. The point was the COURTESY of the other devs to their audience. Not that they are beholden to doing what they do. They make their own decision. L&P makes his own decisions. We are all fully aware of that.
 

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Sophia is in no way a "dumb ungrateful bitch". Dylan is just putting effort into something that is understandably difficult, so of course his progress will be slow. But that's his choice. Same as it is for the players choosing to play his route.

Presumably (since I don't play the route - it's too slow for me to find enjoyable), those that play the route are just hoping that the (what is looking like a) 20-odd year wait to get there will be worth it. Assuming of course that the game actually gets there
Is that an assumption or a pipe dream?
 

Talcum Powder

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My friend, think about the meaning of what you wrote yourself!
If he is obliged to refuse money in case of delays or delays in the provision of his product, then all of us are equally obliged to stop receiving his product from the moment we unsubscribe and stop paying him.
This is not a valid syllogism at all, Bane71.

If something is expected to take two months (end of January, L&P’s words) and it ends up taking longer than that, a subscriber would not be unreasonable to think, having paid at the end of November and the end of December, they should not have to pay for January as this is, in essence, a 50% surcharge.

Most of us understand that Patreon isn’t literally that transactional, but it’s easy to see why the sentiment exists and it’s baffling to me that you think it can be dismissed with flawed logic.
 

lupogba6

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he was not able to finish it on time
because he got busy in hiring other persons for this project
as he already cleared that
we will see the difference in coming updates after this one
and he continuously asks us to be patient for this update
as it will be worth it
so whats wrong in waiting for 1-3 more weeks
he is hiring more just to get updates sooner
i trust the guy
and i really believe updates will come sooner after this one
 

dolfe67

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Orb Origin suspended his accounts every time he stopped producing, Cheeky Gimp and team did same.
Personally I feel bad when a creator I support pauses his income. If I thought he was undeserving of my support, I would just unsubscribe myself, and maybe come back later. Unless it's because they won't work at all on the game due to RL job or another RL situation (if they communicate well)
 

bayrischman

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he was not able to finish it on time
because he got busy in hiring other persons for this project
as he already cleared that
we will see the difference in coming updates after this one
and he continuously asks us to be patient for this update
as it will be worth it
so whats wrong in waiting for 1-3 more weeks
he is hiring more just to get updates sooner
i trust the guy
and i really believe updates will come sooner after this one
dream on
 

BorgiaBou

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he was not able to finish it on time
because he got busy in hiring other persons for this project
as he already cleared that
we will see the difference in coming updates after this one
and he continuously asks us to be patient for this update
as it will be worth it
so whats wrong in waiting for 1-3 more weeks
he is hiring more just to get updates sooner
i trust the guy
and i really believe updates will come sooner after this one
GTFO...
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hzjujk

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he was not able to finish it on time
because he got busy in hiring other persons for this project
as he already cleared that
we will see the difference in coming updates after this one
and he continuously asks us to be patient for this update
as it will be worth it
so whats wrong in waiting for 1-3 more weeks
he is hiring more just to get updates sooner
i trust the guy
and i really believe updates will come sooner after this one
That they trust the developer distinguishes them and brands them in the eyes of many here. You can't argue that L&P is not far behind its own schedule. You can't argue against the fact that L&P has a huge problem with calmly dealing with his critics, he even has a problem with finding the right language with his fans. For you as a player the glass is half full for many others here in this forum the glass is always half empty. It has been that way for the past 4 years and will always be that way. Here is essentially a religious war in which you have now chosen the side with their contribution. They will have to resign themselves to ridicule and scorn for their contributions to reap, because the contributions of the critics just also describe part of the truth. And because it is an emotional discussion, it is difficult for both sides to refrain from personal insults. I do not exclude myself from this procedure, as much as I would like to avoid it.
Only for them, as a personal statement - for me the glass is still half full!
 
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hzjujk

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It's funny..

I wrote an answer saying this in other words.

Post got deleted for offtopic.

It's absolutely baffling how posts in this thread that call out the poor development of the game and the constant lies of this dev get deleted right away for "off topic" but posts that come here to defend it, by new accounts, with absolutely flawed logic, do not get deleted.

No explanation whatsoever from the mod team how speaking about this is off topic.
You say it - the same content said in different words. And they wonder why their post was deleted. Their contributions are rarely no attack and not peppered with insulting tips (there are exceptions!), so that I can imagine very well why their contribution was deleted - without having read it. Now I have to say it once - it makes no sense at all what they have just said.
 

qzbuyfhsef

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You know guys i think i know whats happen in the next update.

Sophia will be pregnant and gangbanged in her bed by several students and friends, when suddenly Liam opens the door and sees his wife squirting right on his TV when she gets Deshawn's big black cock in her ass. Ellie in a panic seeing her dad, pull it out the 10 inch dildo of mother's throat. Sophia instantly looks at her husband and says "Sorry honey but I'm not sure the baby is of yours, but ultimately the family enlarges isn't great?"

So ! Sorry for my english and good dreams boys =D
 

RUSSIAN MAFIA

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Good, hitting on the developer... An artist, anyone can offend .... He will freak out, he will abandon him altogether! :WeSmart:;)

Gta 5, too, was not built immediately.... :sneaky:
 

armion82

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Unfortunately this game has potential to be one of the best games on this site, but I don't see it every being completed. We've moved from a day or two every couple months, then half a day with more month in between, now each scene is taking 3-4 months? This is not sustainable, no matter how committed he is now.
He definitely broke all advices from NLT.
"I’d also suggest starting small. It’s pretty much cliche advice at this point, but please don’t aim so high that you’re trying to accomplish the impossible. At some point, you’re going to have to be able to lay out a process that you know you can follow. Trying to figure out how to make an MMORPG on the fly is a recipe for failure until you have years or even decades of experience to draw from.
Everything is on a specific schedule and my time is managed very closely. If something is wrong in the process, I’ll know immediately and compensate. This has allowed me to never miss a deadline, although the pressure to keep this record going can be a bit exhausting. One day I may be late, but it hasn’t happened in the last 4-5 years.
It’s all about having a plan and sticking to it. If you think you have plenty of time to do something, so you forgo planning out your day-to-day tasks, you’re setting yourself up for failure. "
 
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