VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Ryhen00]

the genre has spanking, i cant find it in the game.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Serious question, is the sex scene in this update just more lesbian sex or are we speculating some actual penetration here?

Next lesbian scene isn't likely until PD14 at the earliest. I very much doubt Sophia will be doing anything with Jennifer

 

[ashitanojoe]

So apparently patrons are starting to speak up.

What do you mean by patrons are starting to speak up? You were a patron as many others and you have been speaking since a long time ago. What do you suggest? That he should have 0 patrons? His numbers are actually low considering the popularity of the game, precisely because many people as you and me think he should develop his game faster.

AWAM is the third most popular game in this site, let's see the devs of the other most popular games: DrPinkCake, 14,000 patrons. Icstor, 5,443. DarkCookie, 32,884. NLT Media, 15,548. Mr. Dots, 6,100.

KsT has almost the same amount of patrons, 1861. And do you know how looks a render of his game?

The patrons has already spoken up from a long time ago, he isn't earning what a game of its quality and popularity really worth. If this game has patrons, it's because there are some people from the great amount of players, who consider that the quality delivered deserves the support despite of the slow development. This game has such a quality that someone like you that hates the dev so much, can't skip one single of the updates.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Means you have absolutely no answer to rationalize your stupidity here. You don't like what's happening here, you complain about it for years, try to open other people's eyes and then jump to be the first one to play the update.

I have asked question to you tons of times here and everytime you couldn't justify why you do this. All you can say is I am free to write whatever I want. Even mad people can say whatever they want since they don't have to rationalize their act. A person with sound mind has a reason for why they do something.

And that is what I have shown here. You have no actual mature, rational explanation of what you are doing. The duality in what you say and do is blatantly evident and that is something that is ridiculous.

Ofcourse you don't have any answer for this. Because at the end of the day a person who's only objective to is to taunt, defame and create hostility on the internet, can never actually admit it.

I already took my time to school you and also to show you plenty of times how wrong you were. Everytime it devolves into wasted time because you're just going to keep writing dumb stuff that I don't have the patience because it leads to nothing.

I stick around because 1. I like the vn 2. I like the discussions about how poor this deveopment is. Nr 1 was actually a bigger reason a couple of years ago, now I mostly just enjoy discussing and being proven right of what I said years ago at every step this dev takes. Obviously I'll stick around now, we're at the "I told you so" part now. It's fun.

After you were caught in several lies and caught denying certain things were good for development without even knowing what they were (and you admitted that), what respect do you think you have from me to even bother with your petty arguments?

Almost everyday you come here and throw stuff in the air about a certain "someone" who everyone knows who you are talking about and now you're talking about taunting? Defaming? Creating hostility? You're the one doing those things.

I'l let you in on a little secret Sabertooth:

I don't care about you, you're not as interesting as you think you are and to read your posts I actually have to click on a little thing on the bottom right that says "Show ignored content", and every time I do that, it's just you crying about people who criticize the dev or trying to bait me into fruitless discussions so you and your crew can report me next or you're really just justifying another shitty misstep from L&P.

Do what I did to your username and put me in the ignore list. If you get so upset about my posts, it says a lot about how seriously you take this.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

What do you mean by patrons are starting to speak up? You were a patron as many others and you have been speaking since a long time ago. What do you suggest? That he should have 0 patrons? His numbers are actually low considering the popularity of the game, precisely because many people as you and me think he should develop his game faster.

AWAM is the third most popular game in this site, let's see the devs of the other most popular games: DrPinkCake, 14,000 patrons. Icstor, 5,443. DarkCookie, 32,884. NLT Media, 15,548. Mr. Dots, 6,100.

KsT has almost the same amount of patrons, 1861. And do you know how look a render of his game?

The patrons has already spoken up from a long time ago, he isn't earning what a game of his quality and popularity really worth. If this game has patrons, it's because there are some people who consider that the quality delivered deserves the support despite of the slow development. This game has such a quality that someone like you that hates the dev so much, can't skip one single of the updates.

I meant some patrons are complaining on the patreon page which is something that you didnt see often a few months ago.
How you took that for "he should have 0 patrons" is beyond me. Maybe read better next time.

As for that screenshot and that poor comparison.. isn't the twist trying to be a game on unity with 3d models and awam on renpy and sort of a vn with rendered 3dcg?

People playing the twist are not playing it because of its image quality for sure..

 

[V.scaletta]

What do you mean by patrons are starting to speak up? You were a patron as many others and you have been speaking since a long time ago. What do you suggest? That he should have 0 patrons? His numbers are actually low considering the popularity of the game, precisely because many people as you and me think he should develop his game faster.

AWAM is the third most popular game in this site, let's see the devs of the other most popular games: DrPinkCake, 14,000 patrons. Icstor, 5,443. DarkCookie, 32,884. NLT Media, 15,548. Mr. Dots, 6,100.

KsT has almost the same amount of patrons, 1861. And do you know how looks a render of his game?

The patrons has already spoken up from a long time ago, he isn't earning what a game of its quality and popularity really worth. If this game has patrons, it's because there are some people from the great amount of players, who consider that the quality delivered deserves the support despite of the slow development. This game has such a quality that someone like you that hates the dev so much, can't skip one single of the updates.

what was that game

 

[ashitanojoe]

I meant some patrons are complaining on the patreon page which is something that you didnt see often a few months ago.
How you took that for "he should have 0 patrons" is beyond me. Maybe read better next time.

LOL don't be such hypocrite, you get upset because he has patrons, you are mocking them constantly, why not be honest and admit it? When it's pretty evident. By the way, mine wasn't an affirmation, it was a question. And obviously it was an hyperbole.

 

[NewTricks]

what was that game

He said KsT was the dev so is it The Twist? I don't know I've never played it.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I already took my time to school you and also to show you plenty of times how wrong you were. Everytime it devolves into wasted time because you're just going to keep writing dumb stuff that I don't have the patience because it leads to nothing.

I stick around because 1. I like the vn 2. I like the discussions about how poor this deveopment is. Nr 1 was actually a bigger reason a couple of years ago, now I mostly just enjoy discussing and being proven right of what I said years ago at every step this dev takes. Obviously I'll stick around now, we're at the "I told you so" part now. It's fun.

After you were caught in several lies and caught denying certain things were good for development without even knowing what they were (and you admitted that), what respect do you think you have from me to even bother with your petty arguments?

Almost everyday you come here and throw stuff in the air about a certain "someone" who everyone knows who you are talking about and now you're talking about taunting? Defaming? Creating hostility? You're the one doing those things.

I'l let you in on a little secret Sabertooth:

I don't care about you, you're not as interesting as you think you are and to read your posts I actually have to click on a little thing on the bottom right that says "Show ignored content", and every time I do that, it's just you crying about people who criticize the dev or trying to bait me into fruitless discussions so you and your crew can report me next or you're really just justifying another shitty misstep from L&P.

Do what I did to your username and put me in the ignore list. If you get so upset about my posts, it says a lot about how seriously you take this.

First you used to say you talk about "game" and "game development" and that is on topic, now you talk "developer" is on topic once I exposed how you used to lie that you talk about the game and development. Constantly clinging on to different straws to justify yourself.

You like the VN. Who was that person who constantly tells, the writing is no longer good. The art quality is matched by many others games nowadays. The scenes are no original ideas. The developer is a liar. He literally abused you.
What a load of crap. You constantly say there are better games and L&P is not doing anything revolutionary, everything has already been done. So if there are people who have done what he has, why don't you find any interest in it.

2. You have doing the "I told you so" for over a year now. Are you a 10yr old who just likes to keep this validation coming for years because you have no other source of where you can show your intelligence ? Is that it ? For over a year beating on the same things to earn some validation on a porn thread. Seriously, that is what gives you pleasure. Is this your "Rationale".

Oh, how much of liar a former patron with every word said by L&P from his birth was as well was shown clearly that day

A few days ago I saw you mention Talcumm' graphs are right and I couldn't help but laugh because you are the one who argued with me when I said the development time was 4months 15 days based on his graph. Saying that it doesn't mean shit, because according to "You" it was some other date. And you called me a liar for that too.
Let me get it right, You have some sort of disorder ? Anyone that is not according to you is a Liar. It that how you do things. Because the same person's graph is valid to you when it supports your argument and invalid when it does not.

All I have to say is you have literally contradicted what you say on this thread regularly by your explanation right now. You have just shown what a childish Rationale you have.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Good god, Viper and Saber clogging up the thread. But guys, they really don't think about each other that much, they swear.

 

[ashitanojoe]

You can't make things up, assume they are true and then use it as an argument. That's not how it works. Don't you need to be above 18yo to register on this forum? Because I get the impression I'm discussing with a child.

If I was upset he had patreons there is a very easy way to get that page to 0 patrons. Obviously no one here wants that, myself included.

I'm surprised how some of you aren't here to talk about the game or it's development, but rather consistently talk about someone who talks about the game or it's development. It's hilarious.

So, you are trying to mocking me when I already told you in a explicit way that "the 0 patrons" thing was an hyperbole. Look, if you search hyperbole in google you will find examples as:

- I'm so hungry I could eat a horse.
- I walked a million miles to get here.
- She can hear a pin drop a mile away.
- He's as skinny as a toothpick.

As those examples, when I said "0 patrons", I made an intentional exaggeration. It doesn't mean literally that number. I have no problem in teach something new even to a person that is being rude to me.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

So, you are trying to mocking me when I already told you in a explicit way that "the 0 patrons" thing was an hyperbole. Look, if you search hyperbole in google you will find examples as:

- I'm so hungry I could eat a horse.
- I walked a million miles to get here.
- She can hear a pin drop a mile away.
- He's as skinny as a toothpick.

As those examples, when I said "0 patrons", I made an intentional exaggeration. It doesn't mean literally that number. I have no problem in teach something new even to a person that is being rude to me.

Maybe the forum page isn't displaying well for you but in my answer I even put in bold the " you get upset because he has patrons ".

What's the opposite of having patrons? Not having patrons.
Was this an hyperbole too? So you doubled down on it? Seriously it's like I'm discussing things with my 10 year old niece, it's pathetic.
Because I can use that argument also: All I've said so far it's an hyperbole, the development pace isn't bad, it's only a little little bit bad. See how easy that is?

I'm going to tell you what I told Sabertooth. I'm not that into you, this is a thread to discuss it's game or the development of the game. Not to discuss the people who discuss the game or the development.
I understand that there's no game to discuss since the last update was so long ago and you guys really don't want to discuss development because it's not convenient for you, but some people (the majority actually) like to discuss these things, so let them be. Stop trying to be the L&Police. No one will get silenced by your crew.

You're going to the same ignore list as Sabertooth as any discussion will be a waste of time.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Oh really, you have what it takes to do it. Stop this game's development ? Why don't you do it. I would like to see. You're all talk no show. I dare you. Do it. Can you Little boy. A childish notion you have been living with. Prove yourself or shut the hell up. You can't do a thing. If you can, do it.

It's laughable how you always claim to do things you can't

That is the most pathetic message I've seen from you and it really shows your pettiness.

Why would I stop the funding for development of a game that I like and take someone's livelihood away just because I don't agree with the way it's being developed?
You realize that that game is absolutely breaking a ton of Patreon rules ? And that all it takes is some well written report for patreon to shut it down which is something we shouldnt even discuss here before some smooth brain gets any ideas?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Boobs

 

[Sabertooth__]

That is the most pathetic message I've seen from you and it really shows your pettiness.

Why would I stop the funding for development of a game that I like and take someone's livelihood away just because I don't agree with the way it's being developed?
You realize that that game is absolutely breaking a ton of Patreon rules ? And that all it takes is some well written report for patreon to shut it down which is something we shouldnt even discuss here before some smooth brain gets any ideas?

Exactly, attacking someone for years on end just because you don't agree with the way it is developed is also not Rational. A normal human being stops after a while.

This is not the first time you have lifted the possibility of the game being stopped and it pisses me off a lot too. I too have raed the guidelines. The chances of that are low even if the whole thing is reported. Hence why i even screenshoted those guidelines and patreons thought process.

Also you just ignored the whole issue where your rational made no sense. You like the game but i literally spelled all the things you say about the game on this thread and none of it adds to you liking the game so much that you will spend years attacking the dev for it.

 

[Deleted member 576]

You guys know that once the animations for .155 are completed the next reason to delay the update would be that he is going to release .160 so that there can be a substantial release, but .160 needs a few more animations (50?) to complete so it will be delayed a few more weeks ( that will add up to months).

I left this thread last year. Seems there is even more drama this year.

I can understand why the dev focuses so much on quality because that is the only thing he really has going for him. If he drops that he loses the rest of his patreon subs.

 

[ashitanojoe]

Maybe the forum page isn't displaying well for you but in my answer I even put in bold the " you get upset because he has patrons ".

What's the opposite of having patrons? Not having patrons.
Was this an hyperbole too? So you doubled down on it? Seriously it's like I'm discussing things with my 10 year old niece, it's pathetic.
Because I can use that argument also: All I've said so far it's an hyperbole, the development pace isn't bad, it's only a little little bit bad. See how easy that is?

No, that's not how an hyperbole works. You can write an hyperbole and the people can identify it as such, without having to explain it later. If I had to say that it was an hyperbole, it was because you took it literally, which it was not my fault but yours.

Look, my paragraph was:

"What do you mean by patrons are starting to speak up? You were a patron as many others and you have been speaking since a long time ago. What do you suggest? That he should have 0 patrons? His numbers are actually low considering the popularity of the game, precisely because many people as you and me think he should develop his game faster. "

To me, and I believe for the most of the people, it's pretty evident that I don't think that you can believe that a game like this one could have 0 patrons. That expression is obviously an exaggeration. That's why that later I told you that his numbers are already low compared to its popularity.

The "0 patrons" expression was used in a way to say you something like: "Hey, his numbers are already low (considering its popularity), what do you pretend? to be even lower?"

And then I put the examples of the most popular devs in this site to expose my argument.

You are accusing me of being childish, when in my first response in any moment I insulted you. Then, you used the: "Are you a child? How old are you?" expression, which in my terms is very childish and disrespectful, instead of responding with arguments, like an educated grown up person would do.

 

[Alley_Cat]

You guys know that once the animations for .155 are completed the next reason to delay the update would be that he is going to release .160 so that there can be a substantial release, but .160 needs a few more animations (50?) to complete so it will be delayed a few more weeks ( that will add up to months).

I left this thread last year. Seems there is even more drama this year.

I can understand why the dev focuses so much on quality because that is the only thing he really has going for him. If he drops that he loses the rest of his patreon subs.

L&P has already said .160 wont have animations, so I don't think animations will be a reason for delays.

 

[Yamakasi20]

Honestly, more than devs/programmers/animators, L&P needs a PR.
Would do wonders for him and probably double his income.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[JorellMartis]

LOL unknowingness at its best again in this troll contaminated forum! I checked these animations just for fun from the latest update and explain you how things really are my friend.

These are 1-2 sec loop animations done with Daz Studio! And not that they're not 60 fps! I hardly believe that this is even 20 fps! It's totally easy quick back and forth movements without any realistic body effects or anything extraordinary at all! Plus there are no volumetrics or any other effects used!

So, 1-2 days for 60 fps animations? OK, then let's talk about the real deal comparing to my scenes and upcoming animations. You got 10 seconds animations with volumetrics and blooming effects. And you don't use amateur programs for the animation like Daz Studio but Blender. And here you use Cycles for rendering. So, please render a 10 seconds long animation with 60 fps, volumetric effects in Blender using Cycles with even two 3090 RTX, at least 10k samples per frame, with denoiser (lower than 10k samples would usually give aweful results) and look how far you will get in 1-2 days LOL! Have fun!
And it's not just the rendering per se which comes only at the very end, it's the freaking hard creation of a realistic and detailed animation!

But main thing, first just talking bullshit again with zero knowledge of the stuff, right?
But I keep quiet. Sooner or later everyone will form his own opinion on my upcoming and future animations

Then he should settle this argument by sending us about 4 new teasers today of the previous update