I support this game it's really really exciting and real... unlike other game that woman go and fuck another guy in 2 days or maybe less.. this is going to be awesome however I hope his personal problems get solved as soon as possible and he can work harder and give us sooner update
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I haven't written anything on this forum site for a while for a good reason. Going through the comments and ratings here I just have to shake my head, so OK let’s have some straight talk! On the one hand I can understand that most people on this site are just looking for cheap, illogical, lowbrow porn scenes and of course will get disappointed here (for now). On the other hand, I can't find the words on how stupid the arguments and most comments here are! Most people don't even understand what they're reading and seeing in the game! So many things that are just not true at all!
Saying that you don't see any difference in the MC's behavior no matter how many filthy points she's collecting is just sheer bullshit and just unfolds how much some people here understand and how much they read of the dialogues/monologues! Let's take 0.07 as example. Sophia doesn't have to react on that the masseur's touching her daughter right in front of her (Sophia can stay silent but for a mother, seeing how her daughter is getting groped deliberately right in front of her isn’t really something pleasant! Especially at this state of the story! Furthermore, only when the masseur starts rubbing his dick against her daughter’s leg, she’ll get really angry, what is also understandable for a “no whore woman” or not?)! Sophia can look on the dicks of the guys and she also tells Ellie the cock size of her dad. Sophia can stay silent and keep her being married a secret! She can stay silent when her son’s using her as wanking material in the shower (again, at this state of the game what she’s thinking at this moment is realistic and reasonable!)! In the end, with enough filthy points, Sophia can also be mesmerized by the big cock of the janitor and she’ll also get even wet while he’s masturbating behind her and also gets some dirty thoughts! And considering that this was playable day 8 of 30/31, how the hell can you say that there’s no development in her filthy route AT ALL??? What exactly has Sophia done so filthy yet, which would justify her for example dreaming about sucking some stranger's cock or even doing it now? And how much time has passed in the game? 2 weeks??? From which you just played a little more than one??? And this is unrealistic, that a faithful, reasonable around 40 years old wife and mother didn't turn into a whore yet? Of course, she has still doubts about filthy things and has to bring herself to do them! Anything else would be just illogical und unrealistic! Of course, this will change the further the story will develop! But saying that there is no progress AT ALL is either a sign of skipping like hell through the game or some serious cognitive problems! I don’t have any other explanations for that! Here I would recommend to maybe take a quick look at the walkthrough by the way!
From the beginning I said, that I want to create an erotic/porn game with quality and class which has a great build up to increase the payoff effect later and let people get more immersed into the game world and story! It's the same script which already existed when I released the demo! I'm just staying true to my vision and story! So, my goal is not milking anyone but creating something unique!!! Staying true to my original script! That’s why just reading about milking makes me really furious considering also the private problems I went through the last months! Of course, it’d better to have an own development studio with some employees, some sponsors and then creating this game for 3-4 years and then selling it as a finished game! But I didn’t have this opportunity and that’s why Patreon exists. To support developers in their vision and the development process. What exactly would you say now, if I’d had enough money so I could work without Patreon yet and 0.07 would be my demo 0.01??? But this is not how it works for “normal” people who start from 0! And advising people who really like this game, like exactly this slow more realistic flair and build up, like this unique project, advising them on the forum site of my game to rather support other devs who IN THEIR OWN OPINION are doing things better and for that stop supporting me, is really cheap, guys! Greatly cheap!
And furthermore, I’m not a robot or slave to work all day and night, especially for people here on this site who don’t pay anything at all and are just looking for some stuff to fap to! Especially the last months I had a lot of private problems which of course no one of you gives a damn about! And there are also some very important things in my life in the next 2-3 months which have to be solved. And comparing other games which bring out more renders per update you have also to consider if they also pay such an almost ridiculous attention to details and creating so many different areas with backgrounds and background life (don’t confuse image resolution with image level of (realistic) detail)!!! And I can’t render these scenes overnight automatically because every scene, before it’s getting rendered, I’m manually adjusting one more time because there’s always something which needs to be still improved and redone a little bit! And I also don’t think that there are many games out there with so many different story branches with future story impacts which needs to be well-considered and what takes more time! I’m also not an English native speaker, so this also takes more time for me to translate all the text! Plus, I got a website to maintain! For a one-man company this is all a lot of work! And I actually don’t know who could help me with the art because everything what I saw yet wouldn’t satisfy me in my own game plus I got so many unique places/characters/props with around 1 TB of data, which the person who’d help me would need as well!
And actually, the reason why this game had such a great build up yet and why I haven’t shown much nudity of the MC, why I saved that. The reason you’ll see exactly now in the next two game days (update 0.075, 0.08 and 0.085)! By the way I already posted a detailed preview of the events of the next days!
And there are so many comments here on which I’d like to answer and explaining things, but this would take so much time and this people highly probable will still not understand it!
Here some answers on some frequent things I’ve noticed here:
First of all, congrats on making such a controversial game. It is quite a great thing. Renders quality is indeed superbe, and the dialogue as well. Thank you, dev, very nice!
Now, the last thing you want to do is go and tell your fans and supporters (yes, we are all here): "no, you are wrong, i am right!". Dont go down that path. Nothing good will come out of it.
The last game that faced this situation is one of the greatest here, that is "DmD", it used to blueball the fuck out of it's fans. People were complaining non stop, because they really wanted it! Same thing here... People really want it!! However, DmD, tho is released in 3 months frequency, at the release date every server crashes because of the volume people take it... the thing is... now it delivers! It has content, situations, sex and everything why we are here (yes, we are here for porn... who woulda thought?).
I understand the pacing of your game, and it's awesome that you have everything structured to the last detail, but we live in a consumerist world. People dont, I repeat, dont want to hear "it will be done in 4-5 years" or "sex will be in day 19". For me, honestly, it's my alarm for "ok, i'm not supporting this anymore".
Patience is a thing... And your supporters can only be this patient.
Question remains... How can you win your support AND stay true to your vision?
(in my opinion, the story and everything is amazing, the only thing we want is pushing the acceleration pedal)
From the top of my head, my first idea would be for scenes to roll on faster (less dialogue and renders, story stays exactly the same) so we squeeze 2 days in an update... from 3000 renders/day to 3000 renders/2 days... not sure about the number, but you get the idea... and boom from 4-5 years we are already to 2-2.5 years
2nd thing, very important for you to understand... your problems, your family, your job and everything... dont bring them here. People understand, but they dont really wanna hear about it, they have theirs too. Everyone has them. And I dont know if I am correct, but... Most of us work as much time as you and win way less, still... you get your money, and money puts food on the table... We, your fans, more or less, put food on your table.
And shockingly, we want you to have more food and deal better with your issues...
but in order to give you what you want, we have to get what we want as well.
This site is the most famous one where people are looking for erotic/porn games. And the problem I got is that people here are hating against my game with just one argument "it has no porn content yet"! Although I stated a lot of times before, what to expect in the next updates and why. And also how I want to build up this story! A game which is in development and maybe finished for around 30%! Of course most of the people here are just looking for a quick fap but there are also some who are looking for a little more class erotic VN. And exactly these people could just getting deterred by lies and hate of these "fappers" and don't even try it. That's also why I didn't write anything here since a long time! But just looking on how much sciolism and is rising here, I just had to respond. Actually I'd prefer that who ever of my patrons is posting my new versions here behind my back wouldn't do that or at least let me finish until version 0.10!
Lust&Passion, Many people will write something about you here that you could done better and so on. But at the end you can't really know the real statistics till you add a voting at your patreon page about how well people think is the progress going and if they will like to help you with ideas(High level patreons may contribute ideas on which you only pick up those which will suit the story). I support your view and progression's rate. You can add some shortcuts to not destroy the story but show some nudity.
For example, ellie's accidental nudity once she jumps into the swimming pool her wardrobe will jump off a bit(Not totally) and at that moment Dylan will be around and he will start to think about how to see even more.
On the one hand I can understand that most people on this site are just looking for cheap, illogical, lowbrow porn scenes and of course will get disappointed here (for now). On the other hand, I can't find the words on how stupid the arguments and most comments here are! Most people don't even understand what they're reading and seeing in the game! So many things that are just not true at all!
Is this guy for real, pls tell me he isn't, dude it's been over a year since you released the game and 10 updates if not mistaken and we barley seen her tits on ATTENTION good path not the filthy path and you come here and tell us that we want cheap porn i mean we apologize if we want to see a little more after over a year of development plus you still come with the same bla bla the next update you will see why i didn't shown her all this time, i mean for real?!?!
And it also doesn’t mean that erotic and sex scenes besides marriage will only happen then!!! Spoiler alarm: Sophia’s first possible sex scene on a special filthy route will happen on playable day 19 of 30! So not at the very end and before, you can imagine, some other lewd stuff will happen on the way there!
Hahaha this is so funny, so will POSSIBLE see her first sex scene outside her marriage at playable day 19 so it's more than half a game, when this shit will POSSIBLE occur if not the others sex scenes will be at the very end of the game but till then don't worry guys there will be plenty of lewd stuff
This site is the most famous one where people are looking for erotic/porn games. And the problem I got is that people here are hating against my game with the just one argument "it has no porn content yet"! A game which is in development and maybe finished for around 30%! Of course most of the people here are just looking for a quick fap but there are also some who are looking for a little more class erotic VN. And exactly these people could just getting deterred by lies and hate of these "fappers" and don't even try it. That's also why I didn't write anything here since a long time! But just looking on how much sciolism and is rising here, I just had to respond. Actually I'd prefer that who ever of my patrons is posting my new versions here behind my back wouldn't do that or at least let me finish until version 0.10!
You are asking for impossible things.And I doubt that anyone realy hate the game.Most didn't hate even the slow progress.They hate the waiting for new update.Let's be honest 2 playable days for more than 5 months is realy not enough.We understand you have problems.But everybody have some.And if you can't deal with them fast you are fired/expelled etc.Sorry but this is RL.
I decide way before Christmas that I will continue the support at least for 2019 no matter what.That time is enought to see if you realy can menage to do faster updates.And I already point 4 things that we must see at least 2-3 this year.
1.Sex with Liam-optional
2.We must see Sophia naked,no cover,pussy,tits,all the thing
3.Sophia kiss another woman-might be Alyssa,Vicky,Nathalie etc
4.Sophia kiss Dylan and Sam
This site is the most famous one where people are looking for erotic/porn games. And the problem I got is that people here are hating against my game with just one argument "it has no porn content yet"! Although I stated a lot of times before, what to expect in the next updates and why. And also how I want to build up this story! A game which is in development and maybe finished for around 30%! Of course most of the people here are just looking for a quick fap but there are also some who are looking for a little more class erotic VN. And exactly these people could just getting deterred by lies and hate of these "fappers" and don't even try it. That's also why I didn't write anything here since a long time! But just looking on how much sciolism and is rising here, I just had to respond. Actually I'd prefer that who ever of my patrons is posting my new versions here behind my back wouldn't do that or at least let me finish until version 0.10!
If you think your game is not worth seeing and you'd rather wait until 0.10 for public release why don't you pause you patreon, work until you got something worthwhile and then deliver it? You're making over 50k/year on this project yet you barely give anything new to show. 4 "event", 200's new render. C'mon man are you really that delusional? I don't understand your patrons.
So you find it inappropriate to remove the towel in the sauna, but you find allowing three strangers to make a show with their penis in front of her, her daughter and sister very appropriate? note that they asked for permission. and even a very filthy whore would refuse or leave the sauna in such situation. those incoherent situations and the progress and then regress in the MC behavior are taking your game down and making it unrealistic in contrary to what you claim.
I remember L&P saying that Sophia not wearing a bra is going to be part of the story. I wonder if this will happen in the next 2 ingame days. He is certainly saying that these two days are going to be very important....food for thought
OK, then give me an example how else she should behave in certain scenes! The background is, that she's a faithful. reasonable, maybe a little prude for "some hardcore porn game player" wife and mother and lived just 8 days of her life with some filthy situations and dialogues where nothing really serious happened! So... should she get wet now seeing a complete stranger groping her daughter right in front of her and thinking to be at her place? Should she take off her towel in front of some complete strangers in the sauna just like that? Should she get wet when her son's masturbating on her under the shower though just a few hours ago she made him clear that it's not right how he thinks about her? How much more dirty her thoughts can be at the current stage of the story when the janitor's wanking behind her? I repeat: some events of the next two game days are the reason why I didn't show much of her body and let her behave like she did yet!
I've read both of your posts on this little debate and you know what? Nah. It just sounds like excuses to me, the likes of which we have all heard before.
You can deny it until you're blue in the face, you already have (at great length, I might add) but all you are doing is milking your patrons for every last cent you can squeeze from them. You know it and I know it, everybody reading this little rant knows it too and so do their dogs. Or cats. Whatever.
Your denial does you no favours. Your long-winded 'explanations' do you now favours either - in fact, they serve only to compound your guilt. So carry on explaining yourself, but don't think for a second that we cannot see right through it.
is funny a lot of people complain but they always come back for the next upgrade!!!.
2 smalls advice from a nobody in the internet.
1-a little more of nudity will help.
2- i can live with sophia turn into a "landlady" and dylan and ellie turn into roommates.
I really like the Sophia/Dylan story that's unfolding right now. One of the hottest scenes in the game to date is going to be when Dylan gets to see Sophia nude.
This site is the most famous one where people are looking for erotic/porn games. And the problem I got is that people here are hating against my game with just one argument "it has no porn content yet"! Although I stated a lot of times before, what to expect in the next updates and why. And also how I want to build up this story! A game which is in development and maybe finished for around 30%! Of course most of the people here are just looking for a quick fap but there are also some who are looking for a little more class erotic VN. And exactly these people could just getting deterred by lies and hate of these "fappers" and don't even try it. That's also why I didn't write anything here since a long time! But just looking on how much sciolism and is rising here, I just had to respond. Actually I'd prefer that who ever of my patrons is posting my new versions here behind my back wouldn't do that or at least let me finish until version 0.10!
Trolls will be trolls, haters will be haters... it`s not only your game, they don`t play, they don`t know what a patronage is. Focus on developing your game your way, your patrons and if you are concerned with this forum you can look at @Belle how he interacts.
Keep you good work, the haters are a few, they only speak louder.
Maybe in your village. But in real life showing penis to women who are related is offensive no matter where. especially when we are talking about a woman who got an epileptic seizure when she accidentally show in bikini in front of her own son in her own pool.
If you think your game is not worth seeing and you'd rather wait until 0.10 for public release why don't you pause you patreon, work until you got something worthwhile and then deliver it? You're making over 50k/year on this project yet you barely give anything new to show. 4 "event", 200's new render. C'mon man are you really that delusional? I don't understand your patrons.
There's A~Z why a person become a patron of something. In this case, some people love the long build up story line. As other said, 700 patrons, which it show not really popular compare to the likes of Summertime Saga. But it's people choice, no need to question them. It's like you questioning people who support Summertime Saga, an Incest driven story line, which some people in here find it's appalling to play incest genre.
If you asking me, I don't mind if all games are incest ... in fact, I want all Traps, Gays and Futas porn banished from this site. But I don't questioning them or trolling on their thread. Respect other people, you don't like it, then don't bother it.
Looks like because i don't like the current direction for the game and what Dev call ''realistic'' i call ''inconsistent'' in many situations that MC is involved and they way MC is thinking changes so much, im being shelved to ''fapper'' guy, that just grabs a dick, CTRL forward whole story in AVN and just calling it a day.
I goddamn love teasing, it's my favorite shiet, the foreplay and stuff and good build up storywise, but like i said already the build up in this game is really inconsistent and teasing becomes really boring because of that(few scenes like dressing game for MC husband and then Dylan and sam coming back to home and getting a surprise Sophia in red lingerie action looked awesome), especially when you read the stuff that MC is thinking or saying, the way MC is acting in one event and then another she acts like another person.
I just feel little tiny, tiny, tiny bits of progress that just jump back and forth, sometimes i feel that Sophia did some progress when it comes to her character but then she goes 2 steps back again, repeat.
- dont be silly - i also live in Germany and a developer/coder earning 3500€ (before taxes) is common, and that is pretty enough to pay for rent, energy and all other stuff you need. mostly people earn about 2300-2400 per month on other (lesser paid) jobs and are also able to live - so dont come up with "facts" which are pure lies!
- MC started to act filthy in the first 2 episodes of the game (to "bait" patreons?) by playing on the movers for example, but after that she acts so prude, that even mother theresa seems to be a whore?
- even if you play the "good wife" path - why does she not have sex with her husband? is that a normal way a wife acts?
- i appreciate your renderings (you have several - maybe to much - assets to render together), but are they worth to wait about 5 years to finish a project?
- appreciate you stick to your believings and dreams, but do not wonder you will get the "payment" from those who believed in your game on earlier state and who are disappointed right now.
FINALLY: again sex scenes: you got so much possibilities to include some "action" even without breaking characters or the story (best example: a good wife is having sex with her husband - BASTA), but it really feels as the pace goes down and down every update.
Based on its current state you can not judge the people to leave your project and maybe have a look again once it is finished, as to pay you 270.000 € ( i took YOUR info - not changing anything = 5 years = 60 months = 270.000$ assumed the 4500$ will be constant for sure)
just to compare: i work full time at "fraunhofer Institute" (you are german too - you know this corporation) as developer/coder and i get 210.000€ (3500*12*5) - so dont tell us that you dont earn enough
STILL LAST QUESTION LEFT: Based on your own info you make 31 days - so 8 are done = 23 left
Based on the last updates we got 1/2 day every 3 months (i respect your private issues)
let me guess i just double this rate and i concede you 1 full day every 3 Months
that would be overall nearly 6 years so HOW DO YOU THINK to reach final goal after 3-4 years?
PS: even think that more "private issues" will delay this schedule even farther away backwards!
I dont want to insult you, nor do i want to destroy your dreams or "cut off" those who still believe in an impossible mission (imho) - all i want to do is show you with your own delivered data and facts, that you are wrong!
And believe me - there are lots of people over here smart enough to see whats going on, same as a lots are still over here who believe in god and that you will do miracle, even your own posts refute yourself
best wishes to your "dream project" (maybe nightmare project after all)
Disclaimer: Sorry that i did not Quote the whole data/facts (would be too much work), but you still can find EVERY fakt i used within your own posts somewhere!