VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Turret]

I've got 11 games I'm playing in a folder, all good to reasonable.

None of them are finished and in every forum for the game, there are people complaining about the small updates, the time it takes for a new update to appear and/or the Dev is being lazy or milking.

It says more about those people than the game or the Dev.

Pardon me, but that is an Äpfel und Birnen (apples and pears) post!
Yes, practically every thread has the guys who cry "milking" if there are two days without news. BUT that is not the case here, while you find these specialists here too, the MAJORITY of those who accuse L&P of milking are longterm fans and former patrons of him.
I am a hobbywriter and since I know intimately the problems when you do something creative, I am very, very careful in giving out the "milker" tag. In fact, there is only a handful of games on F95 where I would give the "milker" to it. AWAM deservedly is one of those few!
L&P is a proven liar, full of comtempt for his fans as well and development speed is abyssally bad and slow even for a single dev game. Nobody with just a single active braincell can believe that AWAM will get completed. L&P´s strategy is clearly the old, but proven "a sucker is born every minute".

 

[Alley_Cat]

I've got 11 games I'm playing in a folder, all good to reasonable.

None of them are finished and in every forum for the game, there are people complaining about the small updates, the time it takes for a new update to appear and/or the Dev is being lazy or milking.

It says more about those people than the game or the Dev.

The part I find amusing though is that in the games I financially support, the dev apologises for things like taking too long between updates. And my response is often along the lines of "No worries, I play AWAM".

 

[armion82]

Well one final thing i'm going to comment about of this conversation. If the dev wants to use their free time to redo some renders, that have bothered them, let them. It's his free time and redoing some renders is lot less stressful or demanding than actual creative process for new content, i know people that can and will do things like that to relax occasionally. Now if he starts devoting actual update time for them, then it's different matter.

PS. now i'm fully done on commenting about this update and discussion.

The problem is that his free time can increase significantly.We actually have no idea if that is not the case already.

 

[bilal600500]

thanks

 

[homejorz]

I hope the upcoming Sam/Sophia scene is simaler to the scene with Dylan/Amber. Would only be fair

Is the Sam Sophia update still next? Or is it just a remake now?

 

[naughtynafz]

I hope the upcoming Sam/Sophia scene is simaler to the scene with Dylan/Amber. Would only be fair

Is the Sam Sophia update still next? Or is it just a remake now?

the problem with that ia Amber is open and threw herself to Dylan... on the other hand Sam has to make her drink booze and seduct her to get to that point

 

[jamdan]

All he has to do is get her alone in his treehouse.

 

[Bishop Robert]

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I used my freetime after the last update to remake the very first scenes of the game. Because the graphics are just terrible compared to my current standards, as you can see very well in a side-by-side comparison. Everything just didn't add up, from the poses to the expressions, the cloth and hair, to the catastrophic lighting. Which of course is understandable as these were my very first attempts at art creation.

I wanted to do this for a long time to close this extreme artistic gap between where the game started and where it is now.
So, I will spend about 1 week of my freetime after every update, to remake the very beginning of the game. Let's see how far I get because it really is many times more demanding to create renders with my today's quality compared to those from the first half of the game. I felt this very well during my work of the flight and airport scene. I'll be already happy if I manage to remake at least the first day.

Now I will start with the next update 0.175 (Sophia/Sam). I'm planning to release the first teaser of it next week.

Spoiler: A couple of samples.

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You can't justifiably defend this.

"But but freetime"

If he wanted to use his free time in this manner and he REALLY wanted to make the people that follow his game happy he would use said free time to speed up the development of future updates.

 

[FullyAnimated]

the problem with that ia Amber is open and threw herself to Dylan... on the other hand Sam has to make her drink booze and seduct her to get to that point

Sophia is attracted to Sam - her young Springsteen. This update should progress things to the next level between them - nipple sucking, petting, & maybe, maybe some oral.

 

[Whitekink]

Pardon me, but that is an Äpfel und Birnen (apples and pears) post!
Yes, practically every thread has the guys who cry "milking" if there are two days without news. BUT that is not the case here, while you find these specialists here too, the MAJORITY of those who accuse L&P of milking are longterm fans and former patrons of him.
I am a hobbywriter and since I know intimately the problems when you do something creative, I am very, very careful in giving out the "milker" tag. In fact, there is only a handful of games on F95 where I would give the "milker" to it. AWAM deservedly is one of those few!
L&P is a proven liar, full of comtempt for his fans as well and development speed is abyssally bad and slow even for a single dev game. Nobody with just a single active braincell can believe that AWAM will get completed. L&P´s strategy is clearly the old, but proven "a sucker is born every minute".

I was making a general statement, not a personal one to you or anyone else, about several games available and the similarity of the comments pertaining to each on their forum. I am at a loss as to the 'apples and pears' comment. They are different games, I agree, but all of the same genre.

I did not go into the detail of each complainer and whether they were long term patrons or not, as I said, it was a general statement, trying to make the point that a random choice of forums brings up similar comments, nothing else.

If you believe this Dev is one of the few who deserve the term 'milking' etc., that is your opinion and I might or might not agree with you.

 

[SuperPerv96]

Sophia is attracted to Sam - her young Springsteen. This update should progress things to the next level between them - nipple sucking, petting, & maybe, maybe some oral.

You can save my words, theres not going to be nothing Major between Sam and Sophia in the next update (0.175) They are going to talk about what happen, Sophia will tell Sam that it was totally wrong, thats shes married with childs, and that she is way too old for him, and that its wrong, and Sam it's going to tell her that its okay, that he has loved her since he was a kid, that he cant forget what happened, and that she has to accept that she liked it and it felt good, then at the end, Sam its going to steal some kisses from Sophia and then maybe grope her over the clothes and thats it

 

[FullyAnimated]

You can save my words, theres not going to be nothing Major between Sam and Sophia in the next update (0.175) They are going to talk about what happen, Sophia will tell Sam that it was totally wrong, thats shes married with childs, and that she is way too old for him, and that its wrong, and Sam it's going to tell her that its okay, that he has loved her since he was a kid, that he cant forget what happened, and that she has to accept that she liked it and it felt good, then at the end, Sam its going to steal some kisses from Sophia and then maybe grope her over the clothes and thats it

L&P said this update between will be hotter than the hot tub. So we shall see.

 

[SuperPerv96]

L&P said this update between will be hotter than the hot tub. So we shall see.

Oh really? didint knew that, well then at most i think nipple sucking, but i dont thinks theres going to be any oral, because if he get thing too sexual this early in the game (Day 13 out of 30 playable days) then LP says that the game will be Boring

 

[davsun]

I don't understand why people are so annoying with L&P, patrons don't own it, they give him money because they want to, the truth is that L&P is the only owner of the game, and everyone knows the guy is a perfectionist he never does what the patrons say, he never listens to what they say, even so they keep sponsoring him, he will spend 10 years making this game and you will stay here whining... funny

 

[FullyAnimated]

Oh really? didint knew that, well then at most i think nipple sucking, but i dont thinks theres going to be any oral, because if he get thing too sexual this early in the game (Day 13 out of 30 playable days) then LP says that the game will be Boring

Yeah, oral is pushing it, but one can dream.
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-170-lust-passion.5944/post-7007210

 

[davsun]

I don't believe L&P is doing this for money, to me he's just a passionate artist, if he wanted money, AWAM should have been completed a long time ago and he should be making other games. For example, the creators of the Genesis Order game, they have 14000 patrons, just on patreon. They've made a lot of games, they update games with a lot of content and really fast, they really make good money. Like I said L&P doesn't care about money he does AWAM for love, he loves Sophia very much and is probably jealous of her so he will be making this game for 10+ years! lol

 

[Ryan Starc]

You said you have applied the patch from here. What did you do if you don't have any final_export.rpy in your game folder? (When I say "game folder", I talk about the folder named "game" in your AWAM1 folder).

Or you could try a new install. I have reuploaded a compressed and fixed version here for Mac (reusing JokerLeader compressed version).

This worked with no errors... thanks a lot.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

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explain to me why all your messages are changed to "."?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I said something similar and my post got deleted

ah. the usual patreon bug ...

 

[naughtynafz]

I don't believe L&P is doing this for money, to me he's just a passionate artist, if he wanted money, AWAM should have been completed a long time ago and he should be making other games. For example, the creators of the Genesis Order game, they have 14000 patrons, just on patreon. They've made a lot of games, they update games with a lot of content and really fast, they really make good money. Like I said L&P doesn't care about money he does AWAM for love, he loves Sophia very much and is probably jealous of her so he will be making this game for 10+ years! lol

their game next update becomes half done while l&p rests after each update