kewlbigdan

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I don't believe anyone is being forced to give LP money. It is a purely voluntary contribution.
There is an arrogance of those that are not sexually satisfied with the results of this erotic story to condemn those members that choose to donate money to LP as being foolishly scammed.
While I no longer subscribe to the patreon mentality, It is not for me to judge what others do with their money.
There is a great misconception that patreons are buying or that LP is selling this game thus there is an inherant right to demand completion. LP is not selling anything and you have no rights to this game. Patreons are buying access to LP and his work. Unless there was a formal agreement that subscribing to LP patreon would guarantee a finished story, he can take as long as he wants. The only power patreons have is their wallet. And if they want to continue funding his VN that is a mutual understanding.
 

1Umber1

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Hallo.. would you mind if I take an interview of u ?
As u r the esteemed first reply of this thread like 6 years ago, I want to ask ??

1) did u expected this game to be 20% finish after 5+ years?
2) how much changes happen in ur life in these 5 years?

3) do you think that the game could be finished before WW3 triggered??
You need to calm down, lol. You act like this is the end of the world, that the dude is working slowly. Take a step back and chill, bro
 

2016er

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Jun 20, 2017
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what was it
alcohol or meth
It's the fetish of death/keel and hopefully u know what necrophilia is(it's sex with corpse), maybe L&P making secret special updates for special customers, if it's...I want to get hands on those cause I have above mentioned fetishes and would luv to see Sophia getting these treatments
 

ancienregimele

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I read that some users of the product believe that Sam and Sophia are romantic and in love. It's funny. What kind of mutual love can there be in a porn game. Possibly for Sofia. It's just a calculation on Sam's part. He is a little older than Dylan and understands that you need to take this fortress not with a swoop, but gradually. Therefore, they use elements of romance. At the same time, he cheerfully grabbed Sophia's tits and crotch in the jacuzzi. He knows what he wants and knows how to get it. The direct route is not always the shortest.
The development of the game, it seems to me, suggests that each storyline will end with group sex with Sophia. Everywhere she is "spudded" by several potential studs.
1. First job. Two old men. Path. Demonstration of themselves in erotic clothes. Partial exposure. Weasels. Full nudity, blowjob. Group sex. The final. They were caught by someone from honey. personnel. Epilogue. Generally moderate. Perhaps a divorce, but life goes on.
2. The way of a good wife. Exchange of husbands and wives. Group intercourse. Everyone is happy. Epilogue. The happy family has a third child. Everything is fine.
3. The path of incest. Group sex with Dylan and Ellie. Liam saw. Epilogue. Divorce. Everyone lives on their own. Sophia is alone and a teacher in a rural school.
4. The path for lesbian lovers. Sophia, Ellie, Patricia and one of the secondary characters. Carl and Liam saw. Epilogue. Also quite moderate.
5. Handsome Sam. Everything is tough. When Sam satisfied his primary sexual needs, he borrowed (rented, gave) her to his friends from a rock band. He knows all her weaknesses
- she has no brains;
- she's always in heat like a bitch;
- after half a glass of wine, Sofia is not the mistress of her cunt.
Group sex is seen by strangers and this is a fiasco of her life. Epilogue. Divorce. She is alone in a provincial town moonlighting as a teacher.
6. Second job. Will definitely end in a gangbang. No wonder there are three apostles. One for each hole. She, as a responsible teacher, will offer herself to them to train the process of intercourse. They will all try it everywhere. At the most crucial moment, mother and daughter will enter. Epilogue. Sophia has been working for a while as a sperm collector for the apostles and a study guide for a mother and daughter, and no blackmail.
7. Of course Aiden. No wonder they introduced Zack into this line. Therefore, in the final (probably task 12) Aiden, Zach and Andre fuck Sophia at school (probably at recess) Jennifer films on the phone. Witnesses are students or teachers. The epilogue is the hardest. 10 years later. Liam is the director of the firm. Ellie works as a model for him. Dylan as a photographer. Sophia, fat and ugly, is a street prostitute in a Latin American neighborhood.
8. There is another option with Don Morello. Pictures from the third task can "shoot" here. Sophia is invited as a star to a private sex party.
First very sexy clothes, then public exposure, then public fucking. Witnesses Carl with Patricia and Liam. Epilogue. As in the third, seventh or eighth option. By choice.
In general, the humiliation of Sophia will be necessarily heavy, group and public. Story logic.
Most of these are very plausible, now that the game/VN has gone down the "just another porn game" path. That is to say they will be, if AWAM is still around in 16-25 years' time. Keeping it standard & simple is the apparent chosen method & to hell with the "class & realism" of the mission statement, not to forget the continuous, (now essential?), lack of logic for some routes........e.g. well-spotted with the three apostles. Your summaries make me curious about how many might turn out as you predict.

Some of these endings would be enjoyed, some loathed, probably in equal measure by any fans now following & still around to see them but nobody can look that far into the future, except the Dev? Personally, I'd hoped that by now he would have done something to speed up development, or at least made a show of it but we know that's never going to happen. Never, as long as the Patreon business model works the way it does. So, until it's abandoned, these endings stand as credible possiblities for the many stories of AWAM.
 

ancienregimele

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I keep reading Sophia the slut, Sophia the whore in their comments. If the main character was a man, such terms would not appear at all.
It's the shorthand of sexism. Seemingly, some language doesn't change that much over time after all. Sexually active women are often seen as a threat, hence "stud" for the male, "slut" for the female, when they are in fact morally equivalent. There's also the fact that young men who havn't had very many, or any, sexual partners go for the whole, "let's make her a slut" fetish, while other men are morally outraged by the very idea of multiple-partnered women & may want to send Sophia to an actual nunnery, as opposed to the nun-like mental state in which she appeared in AWAM's early days.
 

Alley_Cat

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Jul 20, 2019
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wow that is far too many branching paths.
That is too many branches for you? You can also set Dylan up with Emma, which ends the Sophia/Dylan storyline and starts a new branch. At the end of this playable day the bonus storyline also ends the Sophia/Dylan storyline and starts a new branch.

After this next Sam event is the Salon event, which might end the Sophia/Dylan storyline and start a new branch with Marie.
 

Sabertooth__

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Because I don't think anyone cares about the proper moral compass in here. Here we are in a porn forum, where people come to transgress and, in fact, run away from the appropriate moral compasses.
That's where the duality of this thread lies. When it comes to the writing of Sophia people here criticise everything about Sophia's writing, be it her decisions, he not recalling all past events in every scene, her dressing choices,what she says, how she is stupid, how her behaviour is stereotypical. How anything even remotely close to non consensual is considered a such a wrong thing in the game. All this desire for unique writing, logic and moral compass in regards to Sophia and this game.
Then the same people say that no one cares and would rather want all male characters to be presented as sex fiends, who only think of sex 24/7 and act like total perverts. It is genuinely hypocritical when people who are fine with such negative stereotype and poor writing act extremely critical of anything happening in this game.

Anyways, i have learnt it is pointless to talk about good character writing, understanding the psychological decisions one would make, explaining the limitations and how the numerous theories floating around are only good as theories and thier practical implementation is not feasible. Everyone sticks to what they believe and i have never seen anyone change perspective based on the discussions about any of the scenes, explanations about the character motivations and creative decisions or the analysis is all a waste of time as even when people accept your point one day, the next day they are back to criticising the same thing and the same points when no change in their thought process. So going forward I'll just try to avoid any discussions about any of things in the game. I'll express what i think occasionally and not bother with anything else.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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That's where the duality of this thread lies. When it comes to the writing of Sophia people here criticise everything about Sophia's writing, be it her decisions, he not recalling all past events in every scene, her dressing choices,what she says, how she is stupid, how her behaviour is stereotypical. How anything even remotely close to non consensual is considered a such a wrong thing in the game. All this desire for unique writing, logic and moral compass in regards to Sophia and this game.
Then the same people say that no one cares and would rather want all male characters to be presented as sex friends, who only think of sex 24/7 and act like total perverts. It is genuinely hypocritical when people who are fine with such negative stereotype and poor writing act extremely critical of anything happening in this game.

Anyways, i have learnt it is pointless to talk about good character writing, understanding the psychological decisions one would make, explaining the limitations and how the numerous theories floating around are only good as theories and thier practical implementation is not feasible. Everyone sticks to what they believe and i have never seen anyone change perspective based on the discussions about any of the scenes, explanations about the character motivations and creative decisions or the analysis is all a waste of time as even when people accept your point one day, the next day they are back to criticising the same thing and the same points when no change in their thought process. So going forward I'll just try to avoid any discussions about any of things in the game. I'll express what i think occasionally and not bother with anything else.
I think some of the F95 fans here fall into the trap of thinking that the writing for Sophia is bad because of the options that they are presented with - which may not include the options they want when they want them.

For example, saying the writing is bad because Sophia would never let Dylan grab her ass, breasts, etc. ignores the choices made to get there.

If you are a Sam only hetero fan, then 'Your' Sophia had minimal romantic/sexual interaction with Dylan and maximized Sam's opportunities to be with Sophia.

This Sophia has So much more going on with Sam than she does with Dylan... because that is the path they chose.

If you are a Dylan fan, regardless of how you feel about Sophia and Sam, then 'Your Sophia' has made choices that maximized Dylan's opportunities to advance a romantic/sexual relationship with Sophia.

I think the writing does a good job of allowing each of us the option to advance Sophia's story and relationships as we choose - albeit - Very Slowly...

Writing and maintaining branching paths in a story as big as AWAM is a complex undertaking!

This path management will only get more complex as other branches occur: the Dylan/Marie path -- will it end the Sophia path (likely) or offer the opportunity to create a polyamorous path with Sophia or Claire (less likely but the Sophia/Dylan/Marie throuple would be So Hot - my personal thought).

Does the Ellie/Logan path end or does Ellie forgive him and perhaps persuade Sophia to join them (once as a special gift to Logan or more than that)?

Do the Dylan and Sam paths have the chance to collide, taking Sophia to France (Eiffel Tower) -- Anathema to the Sam only fans but it is a potential intersection ... :) ... of those two paths.

None of these paths will be the equivalent of a deep and abiding love story like Anna Karenina (across the millions of human written works created since Tolstoy published Anne Karenina, how many are her equal or better?), but no AVN creator has the time (and resources) to create this level of love story as well as adding in the adult content that is almost always 'reading between the lines' for the classic love stories.

While the progression of AWAM has slowed to that of an old train slowly chugging its way across the Siberian tundra, I believe that L&P is doing a decent job writing the paths for Sophia, Dylan, and Ellie.
 
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Sadowdark

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Not true. Last I checked there were at least a dozen people that voted for Liam in the Favorite Character poll. There are people that come here and play the game for the GW route. They just happen to be a silent minority.
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