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That's a real picture.. it's not Ellie.
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think about it?? why then do they address her by the name of ellie? this is her .. it's hard to tell 100% on her glasses, but I think this is Ellie .. I wonder whose little girl she is wearing? pile? sema? or Dylan?)) I hope Dylan ... this is slippery like a cockroach .. I can’t believe that Sofia has more forbidden feelings for him than for Dylan and dabawak ptayets to bring Ellie with this semam .. that's what sucks in this game(n)(n)(n)
 
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These games (AWAM & JONHN) are below the rendering quality of the new games. Now young devs have started to make Unity renders with animations and add them to RenPy. Emotional immersion is less evident. The new gonzo-porn games allow you to become a part of the event and not just watch from the sidelines.

AWAM, JONHN and AEA are old-fashioned games. Their age is over.
 
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think about it?? why then do they address her by the name of ellie? this is her .. it's hard to tell 100% on her glasses, but I think this is Ellie .. I wonder whose little girl she is wearing? pile? sema? or Dylan?)) I hope Dylan ... this is slippery like a cockroach .. I can’t believe that Sofia has more forbidden feelings for him than for Dylan and dabawak ptayets to bring Ellie with this semam .. that's what sucks in this game(n)(n)(n)
If you click on the picture, then right click and 'search image on google' you will find out that a Russian model called Cristy Ren.
 

Frankinstein

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If you click on the picture, then right click and 'search image on google' you will find out that a Russian model called Cristy Ren.
I wish I had such a sister similar to the model but not with such characters as Ellie in the game .. if you take into account how she treats Dylan I wabshe udevlon ... what the hell did he decide to help her several times ?? I wouldn't help a sister like her .. well, if she doesn't spread her legs for mine first of course haha .. it's interesting how the developer thought when he made the name of the scene ??
 

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These games (AWAM & JONHN) are below the rendering quality of the new games. Now young devs have started to make Unity renders with animations and add them to RenPy. Emotional immersion is less evident. The new gonzo-porn games allow you to become a part of the event and not just watch from the sidelines.

AWAM, JONHN and AEA are old-fashioned games. Their age is over.
What about this AI generated stuff that could be much quicker than posing and rendering in Daz? I'm curious if anyone out there has already started their own VN using some of these AI generated images after training it with whatever they want.
 
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What about this AI generated stuff that could be much quicker than posing and rendering in Daz? I'm curious if anyone out there has already started their own VN using some of these AI generated images after training it with whatever they want.
I tried. Does not work. And if it will be worked somehow , there are still only 15 attempts per month. AI render once be added into the UNITY. 5-7 years.
 
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If you read his statement in the first hetero scene, it's this...

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It doesn't mean with Sophia. It can be any important character, for example. Dylan/Emma, Christine, Marie, or Ellie, or it could be Ellie/Sam, Logan, or Dylan. The 1st or 2nd lesbian will most likely be Sophia since L&P said the lesbian scene would happen first before the hetero scene. The combo could be Sophia/Patricia or Ellie.
7 playable days means 100 years ?? :(
 
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What about this AI generated stuff that could be much quicker than posing and rendering in Daz? I'm curious if anyone out there has already started their own VN using some of these AI generated images after training it with whatever they want.
Oh no, the AIs are still far behind, there's no consistency in them. Some players experimented with that in the off-topic thread and the results are hilarious https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-9072805

I have said that the future is Metahuman from Unreal Engine. You can make a character expression in real time capturing your own face with your iPhone (no more hours moving manually eyebrows, eyes and lips to create a certain expression) and the characters are more realistic than anything else. But it seems that there are not too many assets right now and there are no assets of genitals and so on. (Not sure about that)


And someone with advanced equipment can even track his body movements in real time.

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There was a guy here who had started a project with Metahuman, but unfortunately he is Ukrainian and the project seems on hold. https://f95zone.to/threads/future-project-with-metahumans.85789/

This is a short film made with metahuman.

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I tried. Does not work. And if it will be worked somehow , there are still only 15 attempts per month. AI render once be added into the UNITY. 5-7 years.
NovelAI has been leaked, so you could do it on your own hardware. There's a torrent of it. I don't know anything about the software. Guess I need to learn. Only have a last gen AMD GPU though.
 

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Lastly, I would've kept that twist with Dylan, it was epic and shame L&P removed it.
Two years ago, I actually posted an idea regarding the Dylan twist that I think would have been a great plot for the story. I can't see it anymore as I am no longer his Patreon supporter (dropped tier and went to SS) but I think this would have worked and been consistent with the relationships in AWAM.

AWAM Dylan Twist Post 1a.png

Sadly, the slow development speed of AWAM would prevent this kind of multi-PD reveal (unless L&P did something within the next PD of the initial Twist reveal, which could have been 3 years RL after the initial twist reveal). L&P decided to protect his income stream rather than tell his supporters to trust his story telling and wait for the final 'Twist' reveal which could have been something similar to what I proposed above.

My proposed version of the Twist would have let Dylan show a more mature side of himself while endearing him to Sophia (contrast this version of Dylan with Liam who's gambling addiction almost cost them their house).

The current event-based, very slow development means that anything with a 'bad' surprise has to be resolved quickly or the loss of angry supporters, and the reduced income stream, will persuade L&P to avoid it, damaging his ability to tell the best AWAM story he could.
 
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Oh no, the AIs are still far behind, there's no consistency in them. Some players experimented with that in the off-topic thread and the results are hilarious https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-9072805

I have said that the future is Metahuman from Unreal Engine. You can make a character expression in real time capturing your own face with your iPhone (no more hours moving manually eyebrows, eyes and lips to create a certain expression) and the characters are more realistic than anything else. But it seems that there are not too many assets right now and there are no assets of genitals and so on. (Not sure about that)


And someone with advanced equipment can even track his body movements in real time.

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There was a guy here who had started a project with Metahuman, but unfortunately he is Ukrainian and the project seems on hold. https://f95zone.to/threads/future-project-with-metahumans.85789/

This is a short film made with metahuman.

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Well pointed ashitanojoe, as always, that is the real problem of the game, not that it lasts 20 or 25 years, that there is milking (which there is not because each update is wonderful and of a very high work) or that LP abandons it (which will not do it while he earns money, despite the incomprehensible desire of some to happen that abandonment), but how the course of time will affect it. I foresee that in 10 years the evolution of the realism of the artificial characters will be exponential (genitals included), we will have PCs with graphic cards to support it. And then what? Will the game remain as a kind of strange Arcade? Will the game evolve with the new technologies? Will the game be redone every 5 years, as it is doing now with the first day? But in front of the masochistic pessimism, I prefer to think of it as a future adventure, I am intrigued and excited about how the game will be in 10 or 20 years, if I continue in this world (cryogenics would not be a bad idea).
 

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Well pointed ashitanojoe, as always, that is the real problem of the game, not that it lasts 20 or 25 years, that there is milking (which there is not because each update is wonderful and of a very high work) or that LP abandons it (which will not do it while he earns money, despite the incomprehensible desire of some to happen that abandonment), but how the course of time will affect it. I foresee that in 10 years the evolution of the realism of the artificial characters will be exponential (genitals included), we will have PCs with graphic cards to support it. And then what? Will the game remain as a kind of strange Arcade? Will the game evolve with the new technologies? Will the game be redone every 5 years, as it is doing now with the first day? But in front of the masochistic pessimism, I prefer to think of it as a future adventure, I am intrigued and excited about how the game will be in 10 or 20 years, if I continue in this world (cryogenics would not be a bad idea).
I have never come across any fan who actively wishes for AWAM to be abandoned, only those who consider it to be one of a number of strong possibilities, given the developments over the last couple of years. [I did once say that if the Dev was going to abandon it, I wish he would just do it, rather than drag things out interminably but that's not the same thing]. Those fans who are now young may be present to see technological developments that we can only speculate about, if it lasts the 25+ years that is its' present course. When you're young, the world & life in general are full of possibilities. That's just a fact. (Who knows maybe someone will invent a life extending serum.... Sadly, I would suggest that if that happens it will only be affordable to a tiny minority).

AWAM's timescale is, to me, a massive problem & has effectively worked to cancel my enjoyment of & immersion in, my favourite game/VN, if not my continued interest. Maybe we should take a vote to see how many fans would like to see this continue for another quarter of a century. [At the current rate of roll-out it will actually go on for more than 25 years]. It could be the majority, because most fans seem to be young, in line with the usual profile of the consumers of 3D games. What they will be doing in 25 years could even include following AWAM, set in 2017 but I honestly doubt that.

There is a soap opera in the U.K. which began in 1960 & is still going strong, as followers & actors come & go. It moves in real time rather than having artificial limits. There's also a big difference in that there is no intended denouement or major conclusions to be reached, except within the myriad strands woven into the plot, which consists of the presentation of a fictional slice of life. That is to say it is not & never was, an erotic story, having sex with a main character as a conclusion, or even just as an anticipated key development, for any of the strands represented. Soap operas can work this way, 3D erotic games not so much.

Some years ago L&P, in a time when he was more communicative, reacted to comments about how long development was taking, or could take. Fans were already concerned at the 'slow pace' which nowadays would feel like warp speed. [No, they weren't my comments]. Back then there was an end in sight & no thought apparent regarding the 'pension plan' that has since evolved. Scorn was poured on the disgruntled few, in a light-hearted way, (compared to today's vague, non-committal or non-existent answers). Suffice to say that the Dev had no design to extend AWAM into an undetermined far future. I don't believe that I'm alone in wishing that he could revert to a concept encompassing a foreseeable conclusion, (even if that was a decade away), while being only too aware of how unlikely that now is.
 
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