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XaGnard

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Here is something L&P said to another member about the productivity and animations, this is why they are in the game.

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So it's not about the scenes, like Sex, Body Touching, etc..., then it is a great enrichment to enhance his VN. So what he considers important scenes will most likely have animations regardless of what's happening in that scene.

First, I can't help but say that I don't buy L&P's story about the animator. Alone that the development speed for updates with animations is even slower that the already slow normal updates should make it clear to everyone that L&P is probably lying here.

Also, I can't see that the animations are an enrichment for the game. Like so many wannabe animators in this genere, L&P just can't really bring his characters to life in a believable way. This destroys the immersion and sometimes even comes across as unintentionally comical. The characters look like dolls and also the completely exaggerated lighting and fog effects look particularly unrealistic in the animations. Anyway, There are a few good animators in this genre, but L&P is certainly not one of them.

From my point of view, L&P invests time unnecessarily here, and thereby only further delays the development of this game, which has already gone completely off track. Three months of development for just 1/10 game day is way too much time. Besides all the unnecessary side stories, animations are at the top of the list that L&P should eliminate from the game in order to achieve at least a rudimentary realistic schedule.
 

palmtrees89

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The animation bar only shows up if all the other bars are 100%, and he's still behind on the animations. we shall see.
When you say he's still behind on animations, does that mean he's actually mentioned the progress somewhere? With 10% left on the P&T part, it should technically only be a matter of days. But seeing your statement here has me thinking that it might turn into the same shitshow we've had back in November 2021 all the way into April 2022. Well, except it might not take THIS long. So much for "planning ahead with animations to not cause any more delays in the future.". L&P strikes yet again? We'll see in a couple days I guess.

My spider senses went off after reading your post. Yes, I'm Spiderman.
 

palmtrees89

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First, I can't help but say that I don't buy L&P's story about the animator. Alone that the development speed for updates with animations is even slower that the already slow normal updates should make it clear to everyone that L&P is probably lying here.
You know, it would be more believable if this mysterious person actually had a name. "My animations helper", or "My animator" isn't exactly very believable. It's baffling to me how he's failing to give any credit to this (in my opinion non-existent) person. Every single game I've ever played has given credit to people who had either helped with a certain part of development, be it only during one update or whatever, or actual members of the team creating the project. To think that there's anyone out there creating adult animations without having a nickname, socialmedia, any kind of portfolio or the desire to be given credit to is so absolutely unbelievable and dumb.

Back in March/April when L&P released a statement from this "animator" regarding the massive delay caused by animations, I couldn't help but laugh, thinking how L&P actually sat down writing an essay about it pretending to be someone else. Shit was hilarious.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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When you say he's still behind on animations, does that mean he's actually mentioned the progress somewhere? With 10% left on the P&T part, it should technically only be a matter of days. But seeing your statement here has me thinking that it might turn into the same shitshow we've had back in November 2021 all the way into April 2022. Well, except it might not take THIS long. So much for "planning ahead with animations to not cause any more delays in the future.". L&P strikes yet again? We'll see in a couple days I guess.

My spider senses went off after reading your post. Yes, I'm Spiderman.
The way L&P explains it to his members is like this, which is weird because you think there should be an animation bar from the start, based on his first statement here.

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So he said that the animation development runs concurrent with the other four and the other four count towards the progress since his "helper" are developing the animations. However, if the animations are not ready, by the time the four progress bars reach 100 percent, we will see the animation progress bar with a projected completion percentage. This is because his "helper" has fallen behind. Most likely, the release will be delayed until the animation bar reaches 100% unless he learns his lesson from the first f-up from Aiden's animation and release the novel with no animation and add them later, which I highly doubt, because of his comment from the past.

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palmtrees89

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The way L&P explains it to his members is like this, which is weird because you think there should be an animation bar from the start, based on his first statement here.

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So he said that the animation development runs concurrent with the other four and the other four count towards the progress since his "helper" are developing the animations. However, if the animations are not ready, by the time the four progress bars reach 100 percent, we will see the animation progress bar with a projected completion percentage. This is because his "helper" has fallen behind. Most likely, the release will be delayed until the animation bar reaches 100% unless he learns his lesson from the first f-up from Aiden's animation and release the novel with no animation and add them later, which I highly doubt, because of his comment from the past.

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Ah yeah, so nothing new. I thought maybe he had said something about the current progress after reading your previous post. Sounded like you knew something. :)
 

roam;)

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unless he learns his lesson from the first f-up from Aiden's animation and release the novel with no animation and add them later, which I highly doubt, because of his comment from the past
now that's somthing highly asking frm him to learn frm his f-up n secondly does L&P thinks it was a f-up?
 

jamdan

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On the aminations/animator.

- LP ported the characters to Blender himself. We know this because he made a thread on here asking for help with it.
- LP purchased a new PC to render the animations on. We know this because he told us.

Those things, by themselves, can lead you to believe the animator doesn't exist. Because an animator would obviously have their own PC and obviously know how to port assets into their animation software.

For a while, I figured the animator does exist. But that LP himself edits them when they're done. Like the lighting, so it matches the render style. This makes sense to me. The animator makes the movements, LP makes the lighting.

But other things still don't add up.

- LP has never named or given credit to the animator. What animator doesn't want credit? Especially when they make animations for a big developer.
- A good animator should be more than capable of making a couple animations in a couple weeks. Not enough to delay an already slower paced developer.

So, I think there are 2 reasonable scenarios:

- The Animator does exist. But they aren't the reason for any potential delay. LP is, because he is the one that edits them before rendering. Which he also does. Which is why he purchased a new PC.
- The Animator doesn't exist at all.
 

PietruccioTheHilander

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Jul 17, 2019
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On the aminations/animator.

- LP ported the characters to Blender himself. We know this because he made a thread on here asking for help with it.
- LP purchased a new PC to render the animations on. We know this because he told us.

Those things, by themselves, can lead you to believe the animator doesn't exist. Because an animator would obviously have their own PC and obviously know how to port assets into their animation software.

For a while, I figured the animator does exist. But that LP himself edits them when they're done. Like the lighting, so it matches the render style. This makes sense to me. The animator makes the movements, LP makes the lighting.

But other things still don't add up.

- LP has never named or given credit to the animator. What animator doesn't want credit? Especially when they make animations for a big developer.
- A good animator should be more than capable of making a couple animations in a couple weeks. Not enough to delay an already slower paced developer.

So, I think there are 2 reasonable scenarios:

- The Animator does exist. But they aren't the reason for any potential delay. LP is, because he is the one that edits them before rendering. Which he also does. Which is why he purchased a new PC.
- The Animator doesn't exist at all.
third scenario: the animator was hired by L&P for a while, then when L & P's ego became huge and he felt ready to do the animations himself: he fired him
 

multiplex1

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'Day14-14_26_Amber_moves_her_pelvis_back.jpg'>:
IOError: Couldn't find file 'Day14-14_26_Amber_moves_her_pelvis_back.jpg'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "script2.rpyc", line 14162, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 715, in execute
renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/exports.py", line 1393, in say
who(what, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/character.py", line 1205, in __call__
self.do_display(who, what, cb_args=self.cb_args, dtt=dtt, **display_args)
File "renpy/character.py", line 871, in do_display
**display_args)
File "renpy/character.py", line 621, in display_say
rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse='say', type=type, roll_forward=roll_forward)
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3101, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3611, in interact_core
self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2441, in draw_screen
renpy.config.screen_height,
File "render.pyx", line 492, in renpy.display.render.render_screen
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 777, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 777, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 777, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/transform.py", line 933, in render
return transform_render(self, width, height, st, at)
File "accelerator.pyx", line 116, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/image.py", line 501, in render
return wrap_render(self.target, width, height, st, at)
File "renpy/display/image.py", line 307, in wrap_render
rend = render(child, w, h, st, at)
File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/transform.py", line 933, in render
return transform_render(self, width, height, st, at)
File "accelerator.pyx", line 116, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 607, in render
return cache.get(self, render=True)
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 271, in get
surf = image.load()
File "renpy/display/im.py", line 688, in load
raise e
IOError: Couldn't find file 'Day14-14_26_Amber_moves_her_pelvis_back.jpg'.

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.4.1439
A Wife And Mother Vers. 0.170 0.170
Sat Nov 12 21:39:26 2022

can you fix it?
 
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