VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

The twist was to use the foundation for Dylan to end up with Sophia eventually. He was the mastermind of the plan. If you read the twist, Dylan was the one that started the chain reaction with the twist before its removal. The remainder of the story doesn't make sense if you play all the paths associated with it.

So the removal does change the format of the story. I would advise you to read some of the comments from the Sophia/Alyssa story in the coffee shop. Also, Look how Dylan went from a horny teenager to starting to act mature during the jogging scene in a flip of the switch.

What doesn't make sense? If you accept Aiden's tasks, he's the instigator of the tasks. It's a separate storyline - different things will happen.

Like how the dishwasher isn't broken if you send Dylan to boarding school. We don't have scenes with Sophia or Ellie having to wash things by hand.

...
Here again L&P stumbled over its claim to write a "realistic" story. Whether you're a fan of Dylan or not, no one could have imagined that at the end of the blackmail route Sophia would feel more for her son than contempt or that there would be a broken Sophia who doesn't care who fucks her. Even the son who had betrayed her and sold her out for his idea of a sexy mother.
...

Really? Because I've been saying similar since around Task #2 - that the entire point of Aiden's tasks being a requirement for the Dylan route is that the only way Dylan has a chance is to be so broken that Sophia doesn't care anymore.

 

[hzjujk]

What doesn't make sense? If you accept Aiden's tasks, he's the instigator of the tasks. It's a separate storyline - different things will happen.

Like how the dishwasher isn't broken if you send Dylan to boarding school. We don't have scenes with Sophia or Ellie having to wash things by hand.

Really? Because I've been saying similar since around Task #2 - that the entire point of Aiden's tasks being a requirement for the Dylan route is that the only way Dylan has a chance is to be so broken that Sophia doesn't care anymore.

Yes, others can also think. No one has a monopoly on a brain. I do not understand why they react pissed off because I write that of which I already knew that you share this opinion.
This has been my opinion since I learned about this turn of events. Even if you have not read my posts about it or can not remember it.

 

[Jackpots]

I just saw pictures of Sammy braddy and without the tattoos it's the perfect Sophia hot damn!

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

What doesn't make sense? If you accept Aiden's tasks, he's the instigator of the tasks. It's a separate storyline - different things will happen.

Like how the dishwasher isn't broken if you send Dylan to boarding school. We don't have scenes with Sophia or Ellie having to wash things by hand.

Read the scene between Sophia and Alyssa in the coffee shop about being bullied. But you must play the scene between Sophia/Alyssa in the coffee shop. Also, read the Sophia/Dylan scene in the bedroom change scene. Another hint applied to the twist that doesn't make sense with its removal.

Also, keep in mind he puts hints in the story in other paths that gives some background details. For example, The reader may not know that Sophia is sexually frustrated unless you play the club scene and read the text between Sophia and Patricia when Ellie leaves. Or before its removal, The twist played out in the background unless you sent Dylan to boarding school. It's not about different things happening; it's how the story comes together by selecting another path. That is why L&P wanted you to choose other paths to see how the story comes together.

Really? Because I've been saying similar since around Task #2 - that the entire point of Aiden's tasks being a requirement for the Dylan route is that the only way Dylan has a chance is to be so broken that Sophia doesn't care anymore.

This is my point about playing the novel unchained for her to be corrupted because all the scenes would depend on each other to advance her corruption. Suppose you were to play Sophia/Dylan's route only. In that case, there is no way, after three tasks, she would even be remotely corrupted to advance her scenes with Dylan, considering the levels of those tasks, as Aiden would be the primary source of her corruption. So I believe all the scenes are dependent on each other. For example, regarding the museum guys in the next PD, how far do you think she will go with them since they only met with their scene two PDs weeks ago?

If Sophia and Patricia give the museum guys an HJ, BJ, or something else, Sophia would have to depend on other scenes to prove that corruption makes her go that far. Limiting that corruption to one path makes it hard to see how that scene would play out without a flip of the switch if you consider that she was a devoted housewife.

 

[Notretsam]

so essentially it's a short resolution of the previous event, then off to the hairdressers for an event if you selected Dylan's POV?

Figure the resolution is Julia prob just leaving without saying anything, and then it comes up at a later day.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Read the scene between Sophia and Alyssa in the coffee shop about being bullied. But you must play the scene between Sophia/Alyssa in the coffee shop. Also, read the Sophia/Dylan scene in the bedroom change scene. Another hint applied to the twist that doesn't make sense with its removal.

Also, keep in mind he puts hints in the story in other paths that gives some background details. For example, The reader may not know that Sophia is sexually frustrated unless you play the club scene and read the text between Sophia and Patricia when Ellie leaves. Or before its removal, The twist played out in the background unless you sent Dylan to boarding school. It's not about different things happening; it's how the story comes together by selecting another path. That is why L&P wanted you to choose other paths to see how the story comes together.



This is my point about playing the novel unchained for her to be corrupted because all the scenes would depend on each other to advance her corruption. Suppose you were to play Sophia/Dylan's route only. In that case, there is no way, after three tasks, she would even be remotely corrupted to advance her scenes with Dylan, considering the levels of those tasks, as Aiden would be the primary source of her corruption. So I believe all the scenes are dependent on each other. For example, regarding the museum guys in the next PD, how far do you think she will go with them since they only met with their scene two PDs weeks ago?

If Sophia and Patricia give the museum guys an HJ, BJ, or something else, Sophia would have to depend on other scenes to prove that corruption makes her go that far. Limiting that corruption to one path makes it hard to see how that scene would play out without a flip of the switch if you consider that she was a devoted housewife.

Can you be specific as to what hints you're referring to? Spoiler it if necessary, but I'm pretty sure I'm missing whatever it is you're objecting to.

As to the museum event, I don't believe we've heard anything to suggest anything sexual will happen with Jason or Haru and Sophia. One, it's before PD15 when those are meant to start. Two, Jason and Haru aren't in the poll. IIRC L&P forgot to put them in because they weren't going to have any significant scenes. So no flipping of switches necessary because the event is probably going to be boring. L&P seems to be putting far more effort into the Dylan route.

But then the whole point of the Ellie and Patricia routes at the moment is that "it's just us girls", so is harmless fun. If Liam were to find out he might be confused and upset, but could get over it. You don't need anywhere near the Filthy points required for the Ellie or Patricia routes as you do to complete Aiden's tasks. I get away with about 20 (I think). All that I suspect might happen is Liam being more assertive in going for the swinging event with Cathy and Andy, or a possible threesome with Nat.

 

[Jude6]

I updated my corruption tracker

Spoiler: Corruption Graph v 0.175

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

 

[FullyAnimated]

I updated my corruption tracker

Spoiler: Corruption Graph v 0.175

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Dylan really has a helluva of a way to go to catch up to Sam.

 

[jan^s]

Dylan really has a helluva of a way to go to catch up to Sam.

With that much spread is it even contest at that point?

 

[Alley_Cat]

I updated my corruption tracker

Spoiler: Corruption Graph v 0.175

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Is it even worth tracking Tyler, Bennett, Neil and Jason & Haru? While they may have had some progress to date, their chances of making any progress any time soon are slim-to-none. Same can be said of the Subway thugs and the movers, who I believe aren't due to reappear until the endgame (so around PD29-30) which may be 30 years or so away.

Perhaps grey them out until we hear something otherwise.

 

[maybes4]

It only feels like that because it's taking so long between events. Dylan has too many branches, and the events in these branches are getting bigger and bigger. We're not even up to the first Sophia/Dylan event of the day.

agree. Dylan should just focus on his mom and leave room for lesbian route

 

[Alley_Cat]

agree. Dylan should just focus on his mom and leave room for lesbian route

It's going to get worse when the Ellie route branches into three on PD16, and there are days where she only gets two events in a day. PD18 she doesn't even get any.

As yet haven't heard any interest in the Ellie/Sam storyline, so that could probably be removed. Just keep the slut branch and the Jules branch.

But then with your logic, Jules being used as the gateway, the slut branch could also be dispensed with, since Jules is the one Ellie is using to get what she wants.

Does anyone know if there are any branches planned for the Sam route?

 

[DisabledDom]

Where can I find the most recent walkthrough for AWAM?

 

[Ranxerox]

Where can I find the most recent walkthrough for AWAM?

Check here for the update:

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Alley_Cat]

Read the scene between Sophia and Alyssa in the coffee shop about being bullied. But you must play the scene between Sophia/Alyssa in the coffee shop. Also, read the Sophia/Dylan scene in the bedroom change scene. Another hint applied to the twist that doesn't make sense with its removal.

Also, keep in mind he puts hints in the story in other paths that gives some background details. For example, The reader may not know that Sophia is sexually frustrated unless you play the club scene and read the text between Sophia and Patricia when Ellie leaves. Or before its removal, The twist played out in the background unless you sent Dylan to boarding school. It's not about different things happening; it's how the story comes together by selecting another path. That is why L&P wanted you to choose other paths to see how the story comes together.



This is my point about playing the novel unchained for her to be corrupted because all the scenes would depend on each other to advance her corruption. Suppose you were to play Sophia/Dylan's route only. In that case, there is no way, after three tasks, she would even be remotely corrupted to advance her scenes with Dylan, considering the levels of those tasks, as Aiden would be the primary source of her corruption. So I believe all the scenes are dependent on each other. For example, regarding the museum guys in the next PD, how far do you think she will go with them since they only met with their scene two PDs weeks ago?

If Sophia and Patricia give the museum guys an HJ, BJ, or something else, Sophia would have to depend on other scenes to prove that corruption makes her go that far. Limiting that corruption to one path makes it hard to see how that scene would play out without a flip of the switch if you consider that she was a devoted housewife.

Can you be specific as to what hints you're referring to? Spoiler it if necessary, but I'm pretty sure I'm missing whatever it is you're objecting to.

As to the museum event, I don't believe we've heard anything to suggest anything sexual will happen with Jason or Haru and Sophia. One, it's before PD15 when those are meant to start. Two, Jason and Haru aren't in the poll. IIRC L&P forgot to put them in because they weren't going to have any significant scenes. So no flipping of switches necessary because the event is probably going to be boring. L&P seems to be putting far more effort into the Dylan route.

But then the whole point of the Ellie and Patricia routes at the moment is that "it's just us girls", so is harmless fun. If Liam were to find out he might be confused and upset, but could get over it. You don't need anywhere near the Filthy points required for the Ellie or Patricia routes as you do to complete Aiden's tasks. I get away with about 20 (I think). All that I suspect might happen is Liam being more assertive in going for the swinging event with Cathy and Andy, or a possible threesome with Nat.

So a request for clarification on your point has resulted in ... crickets?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

So a request for clarification on your point has resulted in ... crickets?

More like I just logged back in and saw your post. But I will answer you since you refuse to read the Sophia/Dylan path because you don't follow it.

 

[jonnybravo11]

Why Ellie sucks as a character?

This is a genuine question. Please answer this in reply and I will club all the points in a single post. I would also give out my arguments in the case.
She is popular character so obviously she is seen differently by some others, but to me she is a stupid bitch. Whoever wants to argue against it is also welcome.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Can you be specific as to what hints you're referring to? Spoiler it if necessary, but I'm pretty sure I'm missing whatever it is you're objecting to.

Alright, this is the bedroom change scene with the hint that it was part of the twist that was removed.

Spoiler: Bedroom Scene - The Twist hint

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

If Dylan's path can stand alone now, this scene would need two outcomes because of the NTR aspect of it. If the reader chooses not to follow the NTR route, why would Dylan comment on the students being shocked when he gets angry at anyone looking or saying things about Sophia? This scene would fit the NTR route, but the problem is this scene now plays out whether you're on the NTR route or avoiding it.

The conversation in the coffee shop between Sophia/Alyssa is pretty much self-explanatory. They don't understand how Dylan and Zac can defend themself quite well by the text of their conversation, but for some reason, Dylan needs to take self-defense lessons now?...

As to the museum event, I don't believe we've heard anything to suggest anything sexual will happen with Jason or Haru and Sophia. One, it's before PD15 when those are meant to start. Two, Jason and Haru aren't in the poll. IIRC L&P forgot to put them in because they weren't going to have any significant scenes. So no flipping of switches necessary because the event is probably going to be boring. L&P seems to be putting far more effort into the Dylan route.

But then the whole point of the Ellie and Patricia routes at the moment is that "it's just us girls", so it is harmless fun. If Liam were to find out, he might be confused and upset but could get over it. You don't need anywhere near the Filthy points required for the Ellie or Patricia routes as you do to complete Aiden's tasks. I get away with about 20 (I think). All I suspect might happen is Liam being more assertive in going for the swinging event with Cathy and Andy, or a possible threesome with Nat.

It would be hard to imagine that nothing sexual will happen at this event, considering what happened with the second side job. As I said, scenes with no build-up, like the museum guys, will need to rely on other scenes for her corruption to grow. Plus, L&P said this would likely be the last time the museum guys will appear in the novel after the PD14 evening event, So one could conclude that something is going to happen. Maybe not as far as sex, but it will be sexual to some extent. Also, just because they are not in the poll is irrelevant. Aiden's gang isn't in the poll, and look what happened there.

My point about Sophia, Ellie, and Patricia has nothing to do with "it's just us girls." The point was that in no other part of the game does Sophia reference that she is sexually frustrated. You only learn about her sexual frustration during that event, which is key to her corruption, and it tells the reader what's going on with Sophia and why she is acting the way she is now. Again, L&P hints are in other paths of the story that are key to understanding the story. When readers choose not to follow all the paths, they miss vital parts or hints that will help them understand the story better, which is why I said the story was meant to be played unchained.

 

[Whitekink]

Ok, I can see your point, BUT there is a difference to not minding people looking at your mother/partner and people making lewd, sexual remarks about or to them, especially if you’re present, as happened with Sam in Dylan’s bedroom, his team mates at the football match and the park.

As for the coffee shop…we never got to witness any violence, so the probability is that if Aiden thought Dylan or Zac could ‘look after themselves’, any bullying wouldn’t be one-on-one…and Aiden has his gang, so defending yourself against multiple foes becomes much harder if not impossible, without some form of martial art.

Although I note your points on the above, I have to say the opposite about the museum visit.

You are assuming that because the guys won’t appear again, something sexual HAS to happen. If the boys were to appear again, then this could be a build-up to something sexual in the future, but why after only meeting them for a few minutes beforehand. I think there may be flirting, especially with Patricia there, and some non-sexual touching, even a thank you kiss, but that’s all. I would be very surprised if anything more happened.

I also don’t understand the connection between the second side job and the museum visit? Sex-ed to young boys and looking at art and artifacts with adults? The last visit to Sam would be more relevant.

Lastly, I think it’s obvious that Sophia is sexually frustrated, without it having to be referenced or stated….although it is, when she spies on Amber and Neil having sex in the garden, “(Well, at least Amber is having some fun in her marriage!)” and in the gym with Patricia 'Or that her marriage wasn't sexually exciting at the moment' and at the club 'But maybe also that she hadn't had that kind of attention in her married life lately, and she hadn't had sex in weeks.' and after the club to Patricia "But right now it's just dead boring with us in bed, you know?"......I could go on!

 

[bardock8114]

You are assuming that because the guys won’t appear again, something sexual HAS to happen. If the boys were to appear again, then this could be a build-up to something sexual in the future, but why after only meeting them for a few minutes beforehand. I think there may be flirting, especially with Patricia there, and some non-sexual touching, even a thank you kiss, but that’s all. I would be very surprised if anything more happened.

Because it is a done night stand? There are no consequenes no Stakes. With SAM this relationship could destroy her whole family. Even worse with Dylan because of Incest. These two are just a one and done thing and that makes it much easier for her to cross lines. Especially when she is now feeling like she is in College again thanks to Sam. We almost had this already in the club in which the guy she never knew before alredy touched her pussy and she could not stop it.

This time Patricia is in it as well and she will be the initiator of the whole thing. Sex? I am not sure but blowjob with 99% certainty because of the Conversation with Patricia after them agreeing to the date.

And regarding Dylan. Dylan now has a Chuckhold bar. That alone should say a lot already