VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Radoslaw Wolf]

The problem with AWAM is primarily poor project management. If you scale the current development speed over the number of unfinised game days, you get somewhere between 30-40 years of remaining development time, depending on the calculation. So it's not so much about how many images are created per day on average, but more about how realistic the completion of the game itself is. A faster development, e.g. through a division of work over 2-3 developers, would be a possibility. But I think that L&P should also cancel some of the side stories or at least move them to a DLC developed after the base story is finished. This would reduce the risk of ending up with only unfinished stories.

You can call me whatever, but I'll keep bringing this up: one of his first goals on Patreon was to quit his job and hire a team - which he never fulfilled despite reaching the goal multiple times. Why? Because, in his words, it'd be impossible to teach someone his folders structure. Instead, he's been gradually slowing down development to the level of absurd, adding multiple dead-end branches to make things even slower. Also, he used all possible excuses from the playbook and way beyond.
Did I miss something?

 

[Alley_Cat]

'You must pay to have your say" is not an argument.

Especially when even if you do pay, criticising him is just as likely to get your post deleted.

 

[palmtrees89]

Game years are longer then real life year

Fun fact: 1 AWAM year would roughly translate to 480 years in the real world.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Progress Report Ver. 0.180.

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neeed a herooooo
ah no, it's not finished

 

[Alley_Cat]

Fun fact: 1 AWAM year would roughly translate to 480 years in the real world.

Really? Because at 1PD/2 years, I'm getting more like 730 years.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

multi quote mode off?

 

[palmtrees89]

Don't believe anything what trashy people telling you

Trashy people? Are you high?

Really? Because at 1PD/2 years, I'm getting more like 730 years.

I did the math with ~40 years for 30PD's. But yeah, considering he's getting slower each PD, you are most likely closer.

 

[palmtrees89]

I don't smoke

Got it. So you're just weird.

 

[mentosa]

I don't smoke

Ah, I see you are a man of culture aswell.... preferring intravenous narcotics.

 

[j01ntr0l1a]

i stay smokin tree

 

[Bane71]

If you really think there is no better game than AWAM and no dev that is doing it better than L&P,you must either check your eyes or try to play more games.

No, I don't think AWAM is the best game. I think she's one of the best.
My post was somewhat about something else.

 

[mrMarko]

02

Trashy people? Are you high?



I did the math with ~40 years for 30PD's. But yeah, considering he's getting slower each PD, you are most likely closer.

for the end of the game, only 24 years to be exact!
the exact accounts are these:
- 3-4 months for each single update
- each update comprises only a single fragment of the day
- to complete a single day, it takes 8 to 9 updates
- since the current day is not finished yet, there are still 10 days left for the story to end

1+1=2

.....I hope I live long enough just to see the end of the game

 

[HonkaX2]

I just finished Timestamps Chapter 1 and I saw this on my first play-through with Sophia. Hilarious shots hahaha

 

[palmtrees89]

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for the end of the game, only 24 years to be exact!
the exact accounts are these:
- 3-4 months for each single update
- each update comprises only a single fragment of the day
- to complete a single day, it takes 8 to 9 updates
- since the current day is not finished yet, there are still 10 days left for the story to end

1+1=2

.....I hope I live long enough just to see the end of the game

What? I'm sorry to say, but the only "exact" point in your post may be the fact that currently one update is only a fraction of an entire PD (Playable Day).

Let's assume for a second that there's only 10PD's left after the current one, which that's not the case as we are at PD13 of 30. And let's also assume that you are right with 8-9 updates per PD with each of them taking 3-4 months of development, which is also most likely wrong as the current PD consists of 10 updates and we have no way of telling how many updates following PD's will have, or how long their development is gonna take. Either way, let's just go with it for now...

Worst case: 4 months x 9 updates = 36 months per PD (3 years), would result in 30 years for 10 days
Best case: 3 months x 8 updates = 24 months per PD (2 years), would result in 20 years for 10 days

So, the average would be 25 years in total for 10PD's, plus another year (give or take) for the remaining updates in the current PD, we'd be looking at ~26 years total on average following your post.

I'm assuming you are mistaken PD's (Playable Days) with the actual ingame-days, which the game is at day 19 I believe (Edit: Day 20 apparently. Thanks Alley_Cat )? But that's because there was a timeskip. Those do not count towards the 30PD's AWAM is supposed to have. PD's are the days you, the player, is gonna play through. You don't play the timeskip.

It's 17 more PD's, plus the current one. Roughly 2 years per PD at current pace, plus another year (give or take) to finish PD13.

17 PD's x 2 years = 34 years plus ~1 year for PD13, would result in ~35 years until the game is complete. Or in other words; Never.

Terribly sorry if I come across as a massive smartass here, but your calculations are completely wrong. Not that my math is very accurate either as the development is constantly getting slower, but we have 17PD's left, not 10. Cheers

 

[Alley_Cat]

What? I'm sorry to say, but the only "exact" point in your post may be the fact that currently one update is only a fraction of an entire PD (Playable Day).

Let's assume for a second that there's only 10PD's left after the current one, which that's not the case as we are at PD13 of 30. And let's also assume that you are right with 8-9 updates per PD with each of them taking 3-4 months of development, which is also most likely wrong as the current PD consists of 10 updates and we have no way of telling how many updates following PD's will have, or how long their development is gonna take. Either way, let's just go with it for now...

Worst case: 4 months x 9 updates = 36 months per PD (3 years), would result in 30 years for 10 days
Best case: 3 months x 8 updates = 24 months per PD (2 years), would result in 20 years for 10 days

So, the average would be 25 years in total for 10PD's, plus another year (give or take) for the remaining updates in the current PD, we'd be looking at ~26 years total on average following your post.

I'm assuming you are mistaken PD's (Playable Days) with the actual ingame-days, which the game is at day 19 I believe? But that's because there was a timeskip. Those do not count towards the 30PD's AWAM is supposed to have. PD's are the days you, the player, is gonna play through. You don't play the timeskip.

It's 17 more PD's, plus the current one. Roughly 2 years per PD at current pace, plus another year (give or take) to finish PD13.

17 PD's x 2 years = 34 years plus ~1 year for PD13, would result in ~35 years until the game is complete. Or in other words; Never.

Terribly sorry if I come across as a massive smartass here, but your calculations are completely wrong. Not that my math is very accurate either as the development is constantly getting slower, but we have 17PD's left, not 10. Cheers

With a 7 day timeskip, and being on PD13 at the moment, that puts us on day 20.

 

[palmtrees89]

With a 7 day timeskip, and being on PD13 at the moment, that puts us on day 20.

I see. Never really followed the ingame days so I wasn't sure. That'd make this poor guys calculations even worse. Oh boy, he's in for a wild ride. lol

Well, I guess in the end, 25 or 35 years doesn't really make a difference as we'll never get to the end anyway. Unfortunately.

 

[redsus123]

haven't played this a whilee - is there any action with sons friend and mother now?

 

[mrMarko]

What? I'm sorry to say, but the only "exact" point in your post may be the fact that currently one update is only a fraction of an entire PD (Playable Day).

Let's assume for a second that there's only 10PD's left after the current one, which that's not the case as we are at PD13 of 30. And let's also assume that you are right with 8-9 updates per PD with each of them taking 3-4 months of development, which is also most likely wrong as the current PD consists of 10 updates and we have no way of telling how many updates following PD's will have, or how long their development is gonna take. Either way, let's just go with it for now...

Worst case: 4 months x 9 updates = 36 months per PD (3 years), would result in 30 years for 10 days
Best case: 3 months x 8 updates = 24 months per PD (2 years), would result in 20 years for 10 days

So, the average would be 25 years in total for 10PD's, plus another year (give or take) for the remaining updates in the current PD, we'd be looking at ~26 years total on average following your post.

I'm assuming you are mistaken PD's (Playable Days) with the actual ingame-days, which the game is at day 19 I believe (Edit: Day 20 apparently. Thanks Alley_Cat )? But that's because there was a timeskip. Those do not count towards the 30PD's AWAM is supposed to have. PD's are the days you, the player, is gonna play through. You don't play the timeskip.

It's 17 more PD's, plus the current one. Roughly 2 years per PD at current pace, plus another year (give or take) to finish PD13.

17 PD's x 2 years = 34 years plus ~1 year for PD13, would result in ~35 years until the game is complete. Or in other words; Never.

Terribly sorry if I come across as a massive smartass here, but your calculations are completely wrong. Not that my math is very accurate either as the development is constantly getting slower, but we have 17PD's left, not 10. Cheers

then ok, my evaluation error... I'm sorry!
I was sure that those seven days of time jump were fully part of the game's 30 days of history... also because day after day, it shows you the date (DAY 1, DAY 2, DAY 3....) and this makes me led off the track!
Perhaps in the past it will also have been explained, unfortunately I find it hard to keep up with a thread like this which currently has 5674 pages with constant updates of at least 10 pages a day (I wish the game updates were also at this rate )

MEA CULPA!

 

[palmtrees89]

then ok, my evaluation error... I'm sorry!
I was sure that those seven days of time jump were fully part of the game's 30 days of history... also because day after day, it shows you the date (DAY 1, DAY 2, DAY 3....) and this makes me led off the track!
Perhaps in the past it will also have been explained, unfortunately I find it hard to keep up with a thread like this which currently has 5674 pages with constant updates of at least 10 pages a day (I wish the game updates were also at this rate )

MEA CULPA!

No need to be sorry, mate. This stuff can be confusing. Only important thing is that we are miles away from the finish line. 20 years or 100 years, it really doesn't make a difference.

 

[Bane71]

haven't played this a whilee - is there any action with sons friend and mother now?

There is, but very little.
Strange, I couldn't upload a couple of spoilers for you, I was asked to contact the administrator.
I'm not sure that you will be very happy with what you can see at this stage, but if you haven't played for a long time, then some surprises will be interesting to you without a doubt.