kewlbigdan

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Have you considered how many of those active on the forum are former supporters who quit supporting AWAM due to the Very slow progress, failure to build the team to increase development speed (repeatedly promised and never delivered); choice to move the goal posts repeatedly (how much money/number of supporters required to meet the next goal published on Patreon/SS)?

I was a supporter until this month. I can tell you he deletes comments or simply is too 'busy' to address supporter concerns about development speed.

After Years of milking, I just got tired of it and stopped supporting him.

If you want to support him, and everything he promises and does not deliver, that is your right.

Everyone has the right to comment on any creator. For ex., I did not like how long it took George RR Martin to write the latest book in GOT. I stopped buying his books due to the length of time between books and how it was getting worse. I'm not saying my choice to stop buying his books influenced his writing habits any more than my choice to stop supporting L&P will cause him the loss of sleep wondering about where his next meal is coming from.

I Am saying I have the right to comment on the difference between the words L&P uses - like commitments to build a team - and the actions we see/don't see.

It's called talking the talk versus walking the walk.
Time for my monthly post.
I am going to say this again. L&P is not selling anything so you or anyone else cannot be 'milked'. Those that contribute to his work on Patreon or elsewhere are only paying for monthly access to what L&P provide. If L&P takes 3 months to create an update, then that is a decision each subscriber makes on his/her own.
I cancelled my Apple+ until they get around to releasing the next Ted Lasso series but I dont accuse Apple+ of milking because it's taken over a year.
 

palmtrees89

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For me they're the weakest in that they seem rely on the player being into the particular kink - M/S for Dylan, and young boys for the 2nd side job.
Yup. L&P could of said that he likes the school setting in general with Sophia teaching her students including Aiden's Blackmail, Zac, Jennifer etc. but he's particularly fond of a route involving literal children instead. Not going to blame anyone for their kinks, but I sometimes do wonder what most people here would think of that route if it were a male MC "teaching" little girls.

I personally can't help but feel a certain degree of disgust towards this particular route, and I'm more than glad we've got another sidejob to avoid playing this one.
 

kewlbigdan

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That being said I do believe L&P is in love with his characters and will continue to tease with the interruptions which seem to be his way out of almost every sexual situation.
So look forward to more interruptions right at the breath taking moment...
 

DonutMan

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God, I absolutely love and hate this game. Some of the scenes in the game are among the hottest I've seen in recent memory. Honestly, all of my hate is because of its development speed. I'm not talking about 'milking', just how slowly things are coming out. The game as SO many LIs of both sexes that it's impossible to keep people happy when updates now basically consist of just a single scene with a single LI.

The best way I can express my frustration is to highlight the release schedule-

We started this playable day (the 13th playable day for Sophia), with the release on April 4th, 2022. In the 7 updates of the 13th day so far, we have gone from morning thru the afternoon. There are 4(!) updates scheduled for the evening of the 13th day, which will put us into Fall of 2023 if the development pace stays the same. If so, that's a year and a half of development for a single playable day. That's insane. My personal feeling is that either something needs to change or this game will never be finished.

The post I got all this information from (https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-180-lust-passion.5944/post-8120982), has a rough outline up to day 31. If L&S keeps the current pace of 1 day in game for 1.5 years of development, he will finish day 31 sometime in the year 2040.
 

conair_oops

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The game will be abandoned as soon as people lose interest in Sophia, specifically when the guys have seen all the "necessary" scenes of her.

So that is reason the dev trying to extend it as far as possible until then. Guys don't need to keep counting time when the game is completed, it's meaningless :)
 

palmtrees89

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We started this playable day (the 13th playable day for Sophia), with the release on April 4th, 2022. In the 7 updates of the 13th day so far, we have gone from morning thru the afternoon. There are 4(!) updates scheduled for the evening of the 13th day, which will put us into Fall of 2023 if the development pace stays the same. If so, that's a year and a half of development for a single playable day. That's insane. My personal feeling is that either something needs to change or this game will never be finished.
The last update was a rather short one, and out of the remaining 4 atleast 2 are major updates of PD13, with a bunch of animations and likely way more renders aswell. L&P already said that he's hoping to release the next update sometime in April I believe, but that is highly unlikely if you ask me. I'd say May, possibly even June is more realistic considering it's supposedly a major update with animations. That said, I think it would be a big surprise if he could finish this PD before the end of 2023, which would put us at over 2 years of development for a single PD. I really don't see the end of it being in Fall 2023.

But yeah, other than that, I 100% agree with your post.
 

Dan5k74

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What lucky people the people of San Alejo are...
They live in a place where it's summer 365 days a year and the ocean is just around the corner. The city is huge, and in its downtown area there are mega-buildings, big banks, international museums, fancy boutiques and restaurants, but also big parks where you can relax and enjoy the outdoors. A true piece of paradise!
But what will be the origin of all this abundant richness in which the residents of this mega-city thrive? Tourism? Fishing? Oil? Some other natural resource? None of the above: the economy of San Alejo is based on gambling, but not on that of its glittering Casino, but on betting, which, thanks to their always large winnings, has always ensured a high standard of living for its citizens. And of course they do, since the San Alejans know the scores of all sports events even the day before they take place in our world!
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Therefore, if we want to know how today's football game ended (and maybe place some lucrative bets), all we have to do is ask Neil: in his neck of the woods, the game has been over for a few hours now, and I think he will be quite happy to reveal the final score.
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exazubi

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The reason why the story writer that he need it is because of repeated events and stories that don't progress.

indeed, everything will happen in the next month?

What if the developer is planning a year in the game?
I don't know what's coming when. But the developer has definitely had all the plans on the table for a long time. A game with so many paths cannot be realized spontaneously
 

tofhdns

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I don't know what's coming when. But the developer has definitely had all the plans on the table for a long time. A game with so many paths cannot be realized spontaneously
Exactly, a lot of people are thinking as you.

So, they're are worried.
 

armion82

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Yup. L&P could of said that he likes the school setting in general with Sophia teaching her students including Aiden's Blackmail, Zac, Jennifer etc. but he's particularly fond of a route involving literal children instead. Not going to blame anyone for their kinks, but I sometimes do wonder what most people here would think of that route if it were a male MC "teaching" little girls.

I personally can't help but feel a certain degree of disgust towards this particular route, and I'm more than glad we've got another sidejob to avoid playing this one.
Considereing the success and demand of such games(male MC teaching little girls) I can say he will double his income.
 

PaxHadrian17

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Time for my monthly post.
I am going to say this again. L&P is not selling anything so you or anyone else cannot be 'milked'. Those that contribute to his work on Patreon or elsewhere are only paying for monthly access to what L&P provide. If L&P takes 3 months to create an update, then that is a decision each subscriber makes on his/her own.
I cancelled my Apple+ until they get around to releasing the next Ted Lasso series but I dont accuse Apple+ of milking because it's taken over a year.
You have determined that L&P is not milking anyone, regardless of the time spent supporting him while he broke his commitments and overpromised/underdelivered.

I disagree.

By my definition, this is milking.

So - we agree to disagree.

Cheers!
 

j01ntr0l1a

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You have determined that L&P is not milking anyone, regardless of the time spent supporting him while he broke his commitments and overpromised/underdelivered.

I disagree.

By my definition, this is milking.

So - we agree to disagree.

Cheers!
milking is having no fucc scenes but with her husband
 

exazubi

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there is a lack of story she isnt fuccing no one , only her husband
That's not what I meant. There's still a lot missing, you're right about that. But there is no lack of story. The developer has not yet implemented many things. But the plans are already well thought out on his desk. He does not spontaneously decide what to include in each update.
 
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SophiaMelinda

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What will be the next update about? Is it Dylan and Sophia?
That major event which will put Dylan equal to if not more than the progress Sam has with Sophia?
Swapping moms by the two boys is a very likely future for them. At least Amber enjoys playing with Dylan through and through. Their next event will definitely be a sexual act, like an oral sex.
 

bacavix

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What will be the next update about? Is it Dylan and Sophia?
That major event which will put Dylan equal to if not more than the progress Sam has with Sophia?
Swapping moms by the two boys is a very likely future for them. At least Amber enjoys playing with Dylan through and through. Their next event will definitely be a sexual act, like an oral sex.
Who knows, I think he's in this phase now
 
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