Alley_Cat

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Voting is influenced by how recently a character appeared & how far they got/what they did. It's a popularity contest, where the Dev can be fairly sure that Dylan will win. I'm guessing that's because of the age profile & gender of the Patrons. Where fans get a second, third vote etc., it might have been more informative (but more complicated), to make these a definite 2nd & third choice, designated as such i.e. proportional representation, rather than first past the-post.
And yet, Ellie hasn't really appeared recently, the last event on her route being at the start of PD12. Christine and Marie don't have much in the way of votes, despite having recent events

What I'd be more curious about is who voters would match for Dylan and Ellie. Jules appears to be twice as popular as Logan as an LI for Ellie.
 
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tofhdns

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Voting is influenced by how recently a character appeared & how far they got/what they did. It's a popularity contest, where the Dev can be fairly sure that Dylan will win. I'm guessing that's because of the age profile & gender of the Patrons. Where fans get a second, third vote etc., it might have been more informative, (but more complicated), to make these a definite 2nd & third choice, designated as such, i.e. proportional representation, rather than first past the-post.
There are many problems with accepting the result of the vote as it is.

I think we need various interpretation tools for interpretation.

Or change the way we vote, as you say, or change the way we show the results.
 

ancienregimele

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If the suporters droped like flies and demanded faster pace of development he would make f*cking adjustments in a hurry.
This thread is full of people blaiming the dev, but it is the supporters that should be blamed. You deserve what you tolerate. :D
It's been years of deterioration & the core of supporters is still tight. Those who drop out are constantly replaced. Anyone new to AWAM receives a great VN/game with amazing renders, interesting characters & intriguing, many-faceted stories. They need to remain for a long time before the truth sinks in. Years ago, lots of us thought that a fan rebellion would occur but it hasn't materialised. L&P shuts down those who ask too many awkward questions. Leaving is the only real demonstration of dissatisfaction available to Patrons & they're not about to organise a mass walk-out, (even if they could), for various reasons, including the human propensity to throw good money after bad & simple sycophancy to name but two.

Those of us on the outside can't tell anybody how to spend their money, so while some Patrons may have to "tolerate" the situation, the rest of us just have to 'endure' it, or leave.
 

ancienregimele

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And yet, Ellie hasn't really appeared recently, the last event on her route being at the start of PD12. Christine and Marie don't have much in the way of votes, despite having recent events

What I'd be more curious about is who voters would match for Dylan and Ellie. Jules appears to be twice as popular as Logan as an LI for Ellie.
Ellie must have "staying power." Christine & Marie havn't got anywhere much with Sophia & might never be LIs, although Marie is harder to explain. Perhaps Dylan supporters got jealous of the time spent with him, both on Sophia's part & because she was a distraction for him from his mother, when he could have been plotting or spying? She's not their average Mom figure.
 
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tofhdns

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The name is Total Vote Ranking and there is no ranking change

The graph is the last number of votes and has a ranking change

Carl rather lost the vote, maybe because of the count error.

And if even one count error occurs in a vote, the reliability of the entire vote result will be problematic.
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The name is Total Vote Ranking and there is no ranking change

The graph is the last number of votes and has a ranking change

Carl rather lost the vote, maybe because of the count error.

And if even one count error occurs in a vote, the reliability of the entire vote result will be problematic.
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this retarded fanbase wants just the opposite of what i like 2 see, omfg, characters like logan , carl , vicky, thugs, mover should be high instead,
this fanbase is very disappointing
 
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this retarded fanbase wants just the opposite of what i like 2 see, omfg, characters like logan , carl , vicky, thugs, mover should be high instead,
this fanbase is very disappointing
You know, I agree with you. But when more than 2 people tell you're drunk, you better listen. The majority always wins :)
 

palmtrees89

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It's been years of deterioration & the core of supporters is still tight. Those who drop out are constantly replaced. Anyone new to AWAM receives a great VN/game with amazing renders, interesting characters & intriguing, many-faceted stories. They need to remain for a long time before the truth sinks in. Years ago, lots of us thought that a fan rebellion would occur but it hasn't materialised. L&P shuts down those who ask too many awkward questions. Leaving is the only real demonstration of dissatisfaction available to Patrons & they're not about to organise a mass walk-out, (even if they could), for various reasons, including the human propensity to throw good money after bad & simple sycophancy to name but two.

Those of us on the outside can't tell anybody how to spend their money, so while some Patrons may have to "tolerate" the situation, the rest of us just have to 'endure' it, or leave.
Only thing I wanna add here is the fact that, while L&P's Patreon has seen a steady increase in numbers for roughly the first 4-5 years, the past 12 months aren't looking that great. He's not gaining any more patrons for quite some time now, with the numbers maxing out at roughly 2000-2100 (on average, give or take) coming the end of each month. And not only that, but the average patron tier went down considerably. Perfect example is the current % on his final patron goal, which is sitting at 94% even though he's at 1857 patrons. There was a time when this goal would hit the 100% at ~1400 patrons, which indicates that many people are supporting him with less money than before. I've seen a post a few days ago, can't remember who said it, but apparently there's hardly any high-tier patrons left at the moment.

Just means that L&P's community isn't growing any longer, atleast how it currently stands, and he might even make less money overall compared to a year or two ago. The numbers at the start of each month are still somewhat consistent with ~1600 patrons, but again, he's not growing. Certainly not what you want to see as developer who's project has another 40+ years ahead of it.

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This graph shows perfectly well how his growth stopped in early 2022, especially compared to all the previous years. Some months even saw a decline in patrons, and he's not reached his peak of nearly 2300 patrons again since April 2022.
 

Alley_Cat

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Only thing I wanna add here is the fact that, while L&P's Patreon has seen a steady increase in numbers for roughly the first 4-5 years, the past 12 months aren't looking that great. He's not gaining any more patrons for quite some time now, with the numbers maxing out at roughly 2000-2100 (on average, give or take) coming the end of each month. And not only that, but the average patron tier went down considerably. Perfect example is the current % on his final patron goal, which is sitting at 94% even though he's at 1857 patrons. There was a time when this goal would hit the 100% at ~1400 patrons, which indicates that many people are supporting him with less money than before. I've seen a post a few days ago, can't remember who said it, but apparently there's hardly any high-tier patrons left at the moment.

Just means that L&P's community isn't growing any longer, atleast how it currently stands, and he might even make less money overall compared to a year or two ago. The numbers at the start of each month are still somewhat consistent with ~1600 patrons, but again, he's not growing. Certainly not what you want to see as developer who's project has another 40+ years ahead of it.

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This graph shows perfectly well how his growth stopped in early 2022, especially compared to all the previous years. Some months even saw a decline in patrons, and he's not reached his peak of nearly 2300 patrons again since April 2022.
Do you recall if an update came out in March '22? That sounds it might be around the start of the PD.
 
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Do you recall if an update came out in March '22? That sounds it might be around the start of the PD.
The first update in 2022 was released in April. It was 0.155+0.160 (Update 1 and 2 of PD13) combined, as 0.155 with it's first animations (Jenn rape) took L&P ages to complete. Devcycle for that update was from November 2021 to April 2022.

That's also why L&P's had his all-time peak of ~2300 patrons. Was basically the initial hype for animations, which died down pretty quickly (as can be seen in numbers on the months following that April release).
 

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In the previous episode,
Sam has already caressed Sophia's nipple to the fullest.
So Dylan should go to vagina, not Sophia's nipple.
Let's go, Dylan!
I've never seen a post in the developer's response released on this forum so far that Dylan will outrun Sam.

And I don't expect will outrun Abba's children too.

The developer said there was no sex this year.
If without sex, it's hard to direct the previous situation in the course of the story.

Dylan only saw Sophia's breast.

So in this update, we have to accept Dylan just touching Sophia's breast and kissing her.
 

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I always smiled at Dylan. The little boy with the expressionless face. But thanks to Amber's hand job ;), he turned into a strong man straight away... :ROFLMAO: :LOL: But I'll admit I like him a lot better this way. Good work. (y)
 

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Okay, in dylan incest route, I can't get ahead with marie, they just talk and the scene switches to the hair saloon, but in the route where I send him away to boarding school, he gets the whole content with marie, what is going on? is there a soft lock on marie if dylan is interested in fucking his mommy?
any answer to this please?
 
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