VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Turret]

these last 10% must undoubtedly be something very complex hahaha
Jokes aside, does anyone know the expected release date?

Definitely May. As the dedicated milkman L&P turned out to be, why release in April, when you can stall it long enough for May? The update is surely already finished, now he just needs to pull out some excuses and since the majority of his patrons turned out to be thoroughly dim, he will suck something out of his fingers.
L&P is no dummy, he found out years ago that he can tell his average patron any lie and they will swallow them, no questions asked. That he makes quite clever and with his dedicated shills like Nexer or Karleton (this guy might even be L&P´s alter ego, since his posts fit L&P´s insulting writing sryle very closely) he keeps the sheep herd, ah, the community of patrons docile.

 

[tofhdns]

From what I understand, once the content of the update is decided, the translation can proceed independently of the other tasks.

The translation has to be done first, but the reason why it is not is, because of course, the scene is created first.

Since a scene is created first and dialogue or narration is created while watching the scene, translation is delayed and takes a long time.

If this happens, of course, the story is twisted and that is no choice but to make a setting error like the appearance of a magazine.
Because LP don't want to throw away after making a scene.

Instead, He puts the story into the scene as he wants and tell to sponsors:

Q: Is it a setting error?
A : This is art. Shut up when you don't know anything.
Q: Why did Sophia model in the past?
A: For fun.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Who is pay £50 / month ??

Unknowing parents who have a real life “Dylan” son lying to them that it’s for “Decisions of Life” program that teaches them life lessons and how to be respectful and polite to their parents.

 

[armion82]

L&P should really review the content of the updates, obviously I'm not the first to say it, waiting 2-3 months for a single scene is really frustrating..
half a day per update would be nice .(less renders to go faster). I who am a fan of Dylan I am really hyped for the updates to come, the last more or less hot scene with Dylan was the bikini show.. its been a long time..

The bikini show was back in 2019.So you are waiting for a very long time.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

L&P should really review the content of the updates, obviously I'm not the first to say it, waiting 2-3 months for a single scene is really frustrating..
half a day per update would be nice .(less renders to go faster). I who am a fan of Dylan I am really hyped for the updates to come, the last more or less hot scene with Dylan was the bikini show.. its been a long time..

Didnt you play the last update where Dylan got to see Marie’s breasts and kiss her in the laundromat?

 

[Dr Secz]

Countdown... And countdown of my patients if this update disappoints me. I will take a break about 2 years and than start to play again. You can find few games here who are worth of waiting an update.

 

[Ness99]

Didnt you play the last update where Dylan got to see Marie’s breasts and kiss her in the laundromat?

Yes, but I meant between Sophia and Dylan.

 

[passionatefanlust]

obviously while the animator is working, L&P can't start the translation right?

He basically admitted he lied about having an animator when he called him a helper. Think of all the "helpers" he has. It's just people he requests a few things from time to time.

 

[VNandSophiafan]

Btw. are there any plans for Dylan and Ellie or Patricia?

 

[AlfredBundy4]

He basically admitted he lied about having an animator when he called him a helper. Think of all the "helpers" he has. It's just people he requests a few things from time to time.

If that. I'm still fairly certain that he doesn't have any consistent help because he doesn't want it. IIRC, he outright said he won't pay people a few years back. I wouldn't believe anything he said wrt development. He gives no reason to.

I think people meme and joke about it without ever really letting it set-in that his development timeframe for this VN is 20 years - at least. Basically, the time from the September 11th attacks to Covid is what he is insisting he needs to properly tell a story about a woman becoming a slut, lol.
It's such an ego and sense of self-importance to even think you need or deserve that much time to tell any story, let alone a porn story.

20 years, more like 25-30 total. Everyone reading this please add 25 years to your age right now and realize, sincerely, that this VN will finish around that point if it ever finishes at all.

So he NEEDS to hire people because it's just not viable or realistic.

 

[ancienregimele]

If that. I'm still fairly certain that he doesn't have any consistent help because he doesn't want it. IIRC, he outright said he won't pay people a few years back. I wouldn't believe anything he said wrt development. He gives no reason to.

I think people meme and joke about it without ever really letting it set-in that his development timeframe for this VN is 20 years - at least. Basically, the time from the September 11th attacks to Covid is what he is insisting he needs to properly tell a story about a woman becoming a slut, lol.
It's such an ego and sense of self-importance to even think you need or deserve that much time to tell any story, let alone a porn story.

20 years, more like 25-30 total. Everyone reading this please add 25 years to your age right now and realize, sincerely, that this VN will finish around that point if it ever finishes at all.

So he NEEDS to hire people because it's just not viable or realistic.

If he maintains his current pace, or slows down, (bearing in mind he's talked about speeding up in 1-2 years time, which if it works like all the other times he's 'speeded up,' means another slow down), the forecast of 20 years should at least be doubled. He's under no obligation, or pressure to do anything other than carry on in the same style, for as long as he chooses.

Certainly, it would be unrealistic for fans of any game/VN to expect totally consistent quality & infallible timely delivery. We're all human & life happens. AWAM, however, represents a decline seen for only a handful of games, some of which did not survive. L&P can continue to please himself, secure in the knowledge that his creation has not only survived but continues to raise a good income, whilst being one of the most talked about & popular 3D games in the entire genre.

He may try to push the boundaries further, e.g. event-based updates were intended to deliver 1 per month, 12 per annum but instead are set to deliver 4 or 5 per annum, or 6 at best. Patreon numbers show no great decline in reaction to this, so why not produce even less to test the limits of what's viable? Continuation appears to be the main aim at present, along with the customary quality renders. Storytelling as an art, consistency, logic, coherence, a veneer of realism, immersion, class, originality & the unique approach that AWAM once had have disappeared, which indicates that they are not necessary.

Sometimes I wonder how many Patrons there are with so much cash to spare that they've forgotten they're still subscribed.

 

[ToshinRaizen]

that few % of animation can take months to finish... never underestimate it...

 

[菊花献给党]

Who knows if there are any latest spoilers about the game

 

[Sagf]

If he maintains his current pace, or slows down, (bearing in mind he's talked about speeding up in 1-2 years time, which if it works like all the other times he's 'speeded up,' means another slow down), the forecast of 20 years should at least be doubled. He's under no obligation, or pressure to do anything other than carry on in the same style, for as long as he chooses.

Certainly, it would be unrealistic for fans of any game/VN to expect totally consistent quality & infallible timely delivery. We're all human & life happens. AWAM, however, represents a decline seen for only a handful of games, some of which did not survive. L&P can continue to please himself, secure in the knowledge that his creation has not only survived but continues to raise a good income, whilst being one of the most talked about & popular 3D games in the entire genre.

He may try to push the boundaries further, e.g. event-based updates were intended to deliver 1 per month, 12 per annum but instead are set to deliver 4 or 5 per annum, or 6 at best. Patreon numbers show no great decline in reaction to this, so why not produce even less to test the limits of what's viable? Continuation appears to be the main aim at present, along with the customary quality renders. Storytelling as an art, consistency, logic, coherence, a veneer of realism, immersion, class, originality & the unique approach that AWAM once had have disappeared, which indicates that they are not necessary.

Sometimes I wonder how many Patrons there are with so much cash to spare that they've forgotten they're still subscribed.

I'm 35 years old, so, if this game finishes in 25 years I'd be 60, I doubt it because that's a long time, many people don't want to wait that long, that's like crazy

 

[Peter Sony]

I've been his game from the start. I really like his graphics but especially that he develops his story so slowly that it handles a huge loss for him. In my opinion, he inspires a lot of developers with the various possible orientations of his game. At the same time, he assumes significant losses of income by stimulating us to look for similar to his game. Long live his creator and thank you for your speed of creativity you allow me to find fantastic new creators.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Sometimes I wonder how many Patrons there are with so much cash to spare that they've forgotten they're still subscribed.

Oh, this is my favorite topic. I sincerely think that Patreon is a way for people to move/hide money as needed. I'm not necessarily suggesting that L&P is in on it, there's just sooooooooo much money being funneled into Patreon that it raises eyebrows. I don't know about AWAM, but from other creators I've spoken to (those that have what I consider large followings) the general consensus is that a huge minority or even slight majority of patrons never interact with what they're paying for. It's as if they're just giving money away. Speaking specifically about AWAM, at the start of every month there's the usual drop in patrons as people end their support; but I find it suspicious that by the end of the month the support has almost been perfectly replaced. Month after month this occurs.

The table below really makes me scratch my head. I'm not sure if it means anything, but what are the chances that in four out of the six months, the number of Patrons at the start of the month would drop to between 1637 and 1639 (with 1639 appearing twice)? Could be a total coincidence, but it's a heck of a coincidence. Every month he loses rough 20% of his patrons (between 18% and 23%) and yet almost always perfectly replaces them. In the five months from Oct to March, L&P "lost" 2,212 patrons and "gained" 2,225, a net gain of 13 patrons. That's remarkably steady. That means more than 4,400 patrons came and went in that time, for an account that only has ~2,100 patrons at its height every month. Does that strike anyone else as abnormal? I'd really need to compare it to other devs, but more or less L&P has seen 100% turnover in five months. Obviously he didn't, but it all seems like a lot of movement that always ends up being conveniently steady in the end.

Again, I'm not actually trying to accuse L&P of any conspiracy. I'm just pointing out that I think there's a lot to be suspicious about in terms of Patreon and its model. There's a lot of money being funneled through the website, and a very high rate of turnover.

End of Month Peak (# Patrons)	Start of Month Trough (# Patrons)	Net Change
Oct 31st - 2016 Patrons	Nov 1st- 1639 Patrons	-377
Nov 30th- 2148 Patrons	Dec 1st- 1637 Patrons	-511
Dec 31st- 2083	Jan 1- 1665	-418
Jan 30th- 2063	Feb 1- 1639	-424
Feb 28th- 2120	Mar 1- 1638	-482
March 30th- 2029	Apr 1- 1622	-407

 

[AlfredBundy4]

Oh, this is my favorite topic. I sincerely think that Patreon is a way for people to move/hide money as needed. I'm not necessarily suggesting that L&P is in on it, there's just sooooooooo much money being funneled into Patreon that it raises eyebrows. I don't know about AWAM, but from other creators I've spoken to (those that have what I consider large followings) the general consensus is that a huge minority or even slight majority of patrons never interact with what they're paying for. It's as if they're just giving money away. Speaking specifically about AWAM, at the start of every month there's the usual drop in patrons as people end their support; but I find it suspicious that by the end of the month the support has almost been perfectly replaced. Month after month this occurs.

The table below really makes me scratch my head. I'm not sure if it means anything, but what are the chances that in four out of the six months, the number of Patrons at the start of the month would drop to between 1637 and 1639 (with 1639 appearing twice)? Could be a total coincidence, but it's a heck of a coincidence. Every month he loses rough 20% of his patrons (between 18% and 23%) and yet almost always perfectly replaces them. In the five months from Oct to March, L&P "lost" 2,212 patrons and "gained" 2,225, a net gain of 13 patrons. That's remarkably steady. That means more than 4,400 patrons came and went in that time, for an account that only has ~2,100 patrons at its height every month. Does that strike anyone else as abnormal? I'd really need to compare it to other devs, but more or less L&P has seen 100% turnover in five months. Obviously he didn't, but it all seems like a lot of movement that always ends up being conveniently steady in the end.

Again, I'm not actually trying to accuse L&P of any conspiracy. I'm just pointing out that I think there's a lot to be suspicious about in terms of Patreon and its model. There's a lot of money being funneled through the website, and a very high rate of turnover.

End of Month Peak (# Patrons)	Start of Month Trough (# Patrons)	Net Change
Oct 31st - 2016 Patrons	Nov 1st- 1639 Patrons	-377
Nov 30th- 2148 Patrons	Dec 1st- 1637 Patrons	-511
Dec 31st- 2083	Jan 1- 1665	-418
Jan 30th- 2063	Feb 1- 1639	-424
Feb 28th- 2120	Mar 1- 1638	-482
March 30th- 2029	Apr 1- 1622	-407

A topic I also am interested in and a rabbit hole I went down was in the podcast/media Patreon world where word is that governments fund a lot of them and personalities that they feel help their interests.

Do you have a podcast that talks shit about your government or promotes ideals that are generally seen as outrageous? Governments will fund it under the guise of users. As you said, no interaction just money. If they stop making it the money flows because these Governments aren't paying attention to their thousands of $5 Patreon accounts. It's a front account that has a set account amount and each month it drops the money to the Patreons they added.

The proofs were everything from timing of subscriber spikes and the spikes in Patreons for people with similar creations.
Then some leaks came out of the Panama BS and some Wiki-lite shit that it's a form of black money ops/psych ops done by intelligence services and militaries around the world.

Wild stuff.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Oh, this is my favorite topic. I sincerely think that Patreon is a way for people to move/hide money as needed. I'm not necessarily suggesting that L&P is in on it, there's just sooooooooo much money being funneled into Patreon that it raises eyebrows. I don't know about AWAM, but from other creators I've spoken to (those that have what I consider large followings) the general consensus is that a huge minority or even slight majority of patrons never interact with what they're paying for. It's as if they're just giving money away. Speaking specifically about AWAM, at the start of every month there's the usual drop in patrons as people end their support; but I find it suspicious that by the end of the month the support has almost been perfectly replaced. Month after month this occurs.

The table below really makes me scratch my head. I'm not sure if it means anything, but what are the chances that in four out of the six months, the number of Patrons at the start of the month would drop to between 1637 and 1639 (with 1639 appearing twice)? Could be a total coincidence, but it's a heck of a coincidence. Every month he loses rough 20% of his patrons (between 18% and 23%) and yet almost always perfectly replaces them. In the five months from Oct to March, L&P "lost" 2,212 patrons and "gained" 2,225, a net gain of 13 patrons. That's remarkably steady. That means more than 4,400 patrons came and went in that time, for an account that only has ~2,100 patrons at its height every month. Does that strike anyone else as abnormal? I'd really need to compare it to other devs, but more or less L&P has seen 100% turnover in five months. Obviously he didn't, but it all seems like a lot of movement that always ends up being conveniently steady in the end.

Again, I'm not actually trying to accuse L&P of any conspiracy. I'm just pointing out that I think there's a lot to be suspicious about in terms of Patreon and its model. There's a lot of money being funneled through the website, and a very high rate of turnover.

End of Month Peak (# Patrons)	Start of Month Trough (# Patrons)	Net Change
Oct 31st - 2016 Patrons	Nov 1st- 1639 Patrons	-377
Nov 30th- 2148 Patrons	Dec 1st- 1637 Patrons	-511
Dec 31st- 2083	Jan 1- 1665	-418
Jan 30th- 2063	Feb 1- 1639	-424
Feb 28th- 2120	Mar 1- 1638	-482
March 30th- 2029	Apr 1- 1622	-407

I haven't been following any games anymore except for two. Awam and Fashion Business and from what i have seen Fashion Business also loses subscribers in the same manner. the fall is more or less the same every month for them too and by the end of the month they get to where they were.

 

[Bibifoc]

Oh, this is my favorite topic. I sincerely think that Patreon is a way for people to move/hide money as needed. I'm not necessarily suggesting that L&P is in on it, there's just sooooooooo much money being funneled into Patreon that it raises eyebrows. I don't know about AWAM, but from other creators I've spoken to (those that have what I consider large followings) the general consensus is that a huge minority or even slight majority of patrons never interact with what they're paying for. It's as if they're just giving money away. Speaking specifically about AWAM, at the start of every month there's the usual drop in patrons as people end their support; but I find it suspicious that by the end of the month the support has almost been perfectly replaced. Month after month this occurs.

The table below really makes me scratch my head. I'm not sure if it means anything, but what are the chances that in four out of the six months, the number of Patrons at the start of the month would drop to between 1637 and 1639 (with 1639 appearing twice)? Could be a total coincidence, but it's a heck of a coincidence. Every month he loses rough 20% of his patrons (between 18% and 23%) and yet almost always perfectly replaces them. In the five months from Oct to March, L&P "lost" 2,212 patrons and "gained" 2,225, a net gain of 13 patrons. That's remarkably steady. That means more than 4,400 patrons came and went in that time, for an account that only has ~2,100 patrons at its height every month. Does that strike anyone else as abnormal? I'd really need to compare it to other devs, but more or less L&P has seen 100% turnover in five months. Obviously he didn't, but it all seems like a lot of movement that always ends up being conveniently steady in the end.

Again, I'm not actually trying to accuse L&P of any conspiracy. I'm just pointing out that I think there's a lot to be suspicious about in terms of Patreon and its model. There's a lot of money being funneled through the website, and a very high rate of turnover.

End of Month Peak (# Patrons)	Start of Month Trough (# Patrons)	Net Change
Oct 31st - 2016 Patrons	Nov 1st- 1639 Patrons	-377
Nov 30th- 2148 Patrons	Dec 1st- 1637 Patrons	-511
Dec 31st- 2083	Jan 1- 1665	-418
Jan 30th- 2063	Feb 1- 1639	-424
Feb 28th- 2120	Mar 1- 1638	-482
March 30th- 2029	Apr 1- 1622	-407

You seem to think that "new" patrons are different from "lost" patrons. At least a part of them are people who re-subscribe every month.
But if you take ICSTOR for example, I also find that really weird. Why people keep their susbscription or re-subscribe when nothing has happened for a long time? And how could you "forget" your subscription? They never check their mails or accounts

 

[tofhdns]

You seem to think that "new" patrons are different from "lost" patrons. At least a part of them are people who re-subscribe every month.
But if you take ICSTOR for example, I also find that really weird. Why people keep their susbscription or re-subscribe when nothing has happened for a long time? And how could you "forget" your subscription? They never check their mails or accounts

The benefit of subscription services for businesses is that people who pay a monthly subscription forget about it.

There is a reason why operators allow you to play all movies and all games if you pay a subscription fee for the price of one movie ticket or the purchase price of one game.

they forget.

Like a communication fees and gym usage fees.