VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

We need few more of those threatening to leave patreon posts. It won't be a surprise if the update was released by *this* month itself.

Don't think it would do any good. That one that Old Dog posted a while back after the Twist got removed did absolutely nothing. If anything it caused L&P to double down.

 

[palmtrees89]

You know what I find funny? In L&P's self proclaimed ultra realistic game, the protagonists are unaware of the fact that every restaurant in the city is closed, especially when it was planned for days. You know, a couple making plans to go out on a dinner date in a fancy restaurant would surely know when and if a restaurant is open or not. I know I do, and I'm guessing most people here would too. lol

But ay, it's L&P's realism, so who am I to judge.

 

[Alley_Cat]

You know what I find funny? In L&P's self proclaimed ultra realistic game, the protagonists are unaware of the fact that every restaurant in the city is closed, especially when it was planned for days. You know, a couple making plans to go out on a dinner date in a fancy restaurant would surely know when and if a restaurant is open or not. I know I do, and I'm guessing most people here would too. lol

But ay, it's L&P's realism, so who am I to judge.

Or even if there was the slightest possibility that a restaurant would be open, Liam could have simply postponed the dinner until after the game.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Or even if there was the slightest possibility that a restaurant would be open, Liam could have simply postponed the dinner until after the game.

It's one of those things where the more you think about it the more questions you have. It simply isn't a well conceived idea because there are other solutions that would have made more sense and allowed for Sophia's corruption to advance significantly. I get the impression that L&P got tunnel vision on the club and stopped looking for alternatives.

 

[tofhdns]

Nah ..leave the house with Dylan? It'll be weird at this point of time in the game. maybe at the end? but yeah sophia is always getting more and more closer to dylan and Maybe she's feeling young and excited by all the attention she's getting from her son after a long time and she always says it's wrong, this and that but has an excuse of teaching dylan how treat women, she is actually liking this secret relationship which she thinks isn't cheating on liam and feels safe.

I said it ironically, and at this point, of course, it's strange.

And Sophia was aware that she was cheating on her husband, so she put on her makeup in the bathroom.

 

[tofhdns]

America is the country in L&P's world, not the United States of America.
If you think like that, everything is possible. Just don't be too serious. It's a game.

Unless he explains otherwise in-game, the United States he refers to is just the United States.

"It might not be the mother and son we know. It's a game."
"Sophia could have been a man. It's a game."

This kind of shoddy subjunctive doesn't help anyone or this game at all.

 

[RockSpice]

America is the country in L&P's world, not the United States of America.
If you think like that, everything is possible. Just don't be too serious. It's a game.

 

[Светослав Пачеманов]

compressed version?

 

[codex35]

compressed version?

if you asking for part1 go to page 1

 

[McZoy]

Is this the slowest burn porn game?

No, It is not

 

[McZoy]

Straight from the horses mouth off his Patreon page
I've decided to develop my own ambitious, realistic, detail-oriented, quality-focused adult game, which has become like a little obsession to me - the current game (vers. 0.185) has already 12.795 fully designed, very detailed and staged, ambitious renders! In other words: I’m trying to fuse art and eroticism, combined with a slowly developing story full of lust and passion, to create an aesthetic, realistic adult game. This is my first game of hopefully many more.

Probably he is immortal.

 

[bayrischman]

Progress Report Ver. 0.190.

50% - 50% - 0%
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hahaha

 

[HZA]

I don't think this is a fair criticism. We don't need Sophia owning dozens of different bathing suits, outfits, or shoes. L&P is guilty of a lot of things, but anyone who has used Daz will understand that it isn't easy to find quality clothing assets, and when you do you use them a lot. There are a lot of limitations to Daz, and the quality of assets is one of them.

Fair enough, but with the time he is taking between each update and him according importance to the smallest detail and "realism", and the fact that scenes with eroticism, nudity etc are supposed to be the most polished and refined ones (it's a porn game right ?), for me it's quite a blemish. And remember the bikini show ? L&P proved that they are apparently enough bikini models to vary and spice things a little, and maybe he should had keep one of them for later .

And not a fair criticism ? What do you say about all the other users asking the same thing in loop or joking : "the game will be finished in 2050, my grandchild will tell me in my deadbed if Sophia fucks anyone" blah blah blah.

Some people pay for it, spend quite the amount of money, so they legitimately expect for the utmost quality in every aspects.

Hope my post is understandable without too much mistakes, I'm not an english-speaker. See ya

 

[palmtrees89]

Fair enough, but with the time he is taking between each update and him according importance to the smallest detail and "realism", and the fact that scenes with eroticism, nudity etc are supposed to be the most polished and refined ones (it's a porn game right ?), for me it's quite a blemish. And remember the bikini show ? L&P proved that they are apparently enough bikini models to vary and spice things a little, and maybe he should had keep one of them for later .

And not a fair criticism ? What do you say about all the other users asking the same thing in loop or joking : "the game will be finished in 2050, my grandchild will tell me in my deadbed if Sophia fuck anyone" blah blah blah.

Some people pay for it, spend quite the amount of money, so they legitimately expect for the utmost quality in every aspects.

Hope my post is understandable without too much mistakes, I'm not an english-speaker. See ya

You are kind of contradicting yourself here. Realism is exactly that. I don't know about you, but my women don't have a new bikini for every day of the year. It is perfectly normal to wear the same dress/bikini or whatever more than once. In terms of realism, you could call it a "blemish" if that wasn't the case, not because she's wearing the same piece of cloth twice as that is actually closer to realism.

That said, the bikini was discussed in the off-topic thread, and I'm fairly certain it is a different asset. Or atleast a modified asset apart from the change in color. The first two screenshots you provided clearly show that the top is slightly different.

Either way, I personally couldn't care less about seeing Sophia wearing the same bikini more than once. Sure, would be nice seeing her in different clothes rather than the same handful of dresses throughout the game, which I think that is one thing L&P is doing quite well. Has obviously nothing to do with realism, but is a nice eyecandy so it doesn't become boring looking at Sophia. Anyway, the game has other, much more important issues. For example the development time, which you've also mentioned. Plotholes, inconsistencies regarding the story and other nonsense. But a bikini? Nah.

 

[XaGnard]

It depends whether or not fans want a 'realistic' veneer to the game, or whether 'porn logic' should dominate. It seems that the Dev has decided on the latter, presumably to please the majority of his Patrons. It must be what he understands them to want & it must make business sense. L&P promised realism in an erotic VN but currently delivers an average teen porn pulp game, realism having been abandoned years ago. It turned out to be the case, that there'd been no need to promise this in the first place. Personally speaking, having played various porn games, none of which were in any sense realistic, or claimed to be, it was the advertisement of realism, all those years ago, that was amongst those things which drew me strongly to AWAM. I've had enough of cartoon characters & stories. We've got an over supply of games to cater for such tastes & the choice is vast.

Realism in the game now seems to consist of the cast members not being abducted by aliens, or having to deal with orcs & goblins & no-one has any special mind-control powers, of course. Once the concept of realism is ditched, it's a case of "anything goes." That may be fine for the "Hey, it's just a porn game," viewpoint but not for anyone who wants something better, i.e. a proper set of story arcs, with believable characters. Fiction has to veer from the course that reality would most likely take but why does this have to produce illogical nonsense? Novels, films & even comics exist which deal with erotic subjects but manage to maintain a kind of realism. Plot holes, retro fitting of storylines, out of character behaviour, lack of immersion for anyone not into M/S incest, etc., have all made AWAM into nothing more than another run-of-the-mill episodic offering, albeit a very slow one.

There's also the question of whose porn logic are we talking about when that subject is raised? Observing the bulk of current porn games, I know it's not mine. L&P should perhaps consider removing references to realism from his mission statement/promo blurb, along with adding a long overdue, male protagonist tag.

Some decisions are simply not possible no matter how some might wish them to be. A porn game, especially one with incest content, will never be realistic. It's just like you can't eat boiling ice cream.

That L&P claims otherwise is, in my opinion, wrong or at least misunderstood. In a porn game, a developer can put wight on creating a coherent story and characters that don't behave like sex dolls. It's more realistic than some of the other games here, but it's not a realistic game. Also, L&P seems to me to put a lot of emphasis on realistic graphics. But a porn game will never be realistic, because realism and porn are kind of mutually exclusive.

Anyway, Anyone who thought that a (real world) realistic porn game could be possible should reconsider their own expectations. One must not believe everything that L&P says. At the end of the day, he is only human and makes mistakes. Even more, I don't think anyone here should have the goal that AWAM is (real world) realistic.

 

[TomUK]

Some decisions are simply not possible no matter how some might wish them to be. A porn game, especially one with incest content, will never be realistic. It's just like you can't eat boiling ice cream.

That L&P claims otherwise is, in my opinion, wrong or at least misunderstood. In a porn game, a developer can put wight on creating a coherent story and characters that don't behave like sex dolls. It's more realistic than some of the other games here, but it's not a realistic game. Also, L&P seems to me to put a lot of emphasis on realistic graphics. But a porn game will never be realistic, because realism and porn are kind of mutually exclusive.

Anyway, Anyone who thought that a (real world) realistic porn game could be possible should reconsider their own expectations. One must not believe everything that L&P says. At the end of the day, he is only human and makes mistakes. Even more, I don't think anyone here should have the goal that AWAM is (real world) realistic.

So incest isn't real? There have been plenty of instances of incest, much of the middle ages was full of incestuous relationships, especially in the nobility to try and keep the bloodlines pure. There are also reports in the media EVERY time an incestuous relationship is discovered.

Unfortunately I never had a good looking sister to perv over when I was younger, but if I had of had a beautiful sister I most definitely would of perved over her.

 

[arifarfi]

I am a little scared of this update.
it can be a some dancing scene , some touching in dark place , and a makeout.
L&P please dont do that to us.
We are expecting more from you....
PLEASE.......

 

[Deleted member 4420830]

I am a little scared of this update.
it can be a some dancing scene , some touching in dark place , and a makeout.
L&P please dont do that to us.
We are expecting more from you....
PLEASE.......

They came home and in the hottub, S undressed herself and then made out with D. He sucked her breasts and she touched his dick with her hand, then when D tried to touch her vagina, she stopped him or her husband interrupted them again

 

[tofhdns]

Some decisions are simply not possible no matter how some might wish them to be. A porn game, especially one with incest content, will never be realistic. It's just like you can't eat boiling ice cream.

That L&P claims otherwise is, in my opinion, wrong or at least misunderstood. In a porn game, a developer can put wight on creating a coherent story and characters that don't behave like sex dolls. It's more realistic than some of the other games here, but it's not a realistic game. Also, L&P seems to me to put a lot of emphasis on realistic graphics. But a porn game will never be realistic, because realism and porn are kind of mutually exclusive.

Anyway, Anyone who thought that a (real world) realistic porn game could be possible should reconsider their own expectations. One must not believe everything that L&P says. At the end of the day, he is only human and makes mistakes. Even more, I don't think anyone here should have the goal that AWAM is (real world) realistic.

You are completely off topic.

The reason LP emphasized reality was to explain "the degree of corruption of human relationships based on reality", not "an extremely ordinary family".

Naturally, people here don't play games to see husbands who are exhausted from work, mother pigs who are tired of married life, and ordinary students who are only into soccer until they graduate from high school.

Because he puts a realistic concept of time into the game, people ask if it's too late at night in the current game background.

He put Dylan in a high school or young teenager setting in the game, and for that reason, he put in childish scenes and childish lines.
That's why people react sensitively to Dylan drinking and going to clubs.

Because he puts a date system into the game, people judge Dylan's face for being old in 20 days.

Players aren't asking for impossible things like "hot ice cream," they're asking for stories that can happen in real life.

In addition, the fundamental reason for the controversy is Because persuasiveness has been lost, and that is because consistency has been broken.

If Dylan was the same height as Sofia, looked more manly, acted as the leader of his friends, and had scenes of him playing drinking games with his friends, people would remember Dylan as a bad student, but people would not have reacted sensitively to going to the club.

These are proof that LP didn't plan the story in detail.

Dylan's first appearance in the game was a character who was ignored, treated as a pervert, and assaulted by Aiden, but when he was unable to drag the story forward, he became Superman in almost a day, protecting his mother and scoring points.

Dylan, who couldn't go to clubs, suddenly grew old, and Dylan, who was scared of women, suddenly became the man all the women in the world wanted to flirt with.

LP is incoherent and disconvincing because he continues to create unplanned stories.

Look at the game backwards, from the current version to the first version.

This will show you what LP is doing.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

So incest isn't real? There have been plenty of instances of incest, much of the middle ages was full of incestuous relationships, especially in the nobility to try and keep the bloodlines pure. There are also reports in the media EVERY time an incestuous relationship is discovered.

Unfortunately I never had a good looking sister to perv over when I was younger, but if I had of had a beautiful sister I most definitely would of perved over her.

I feel you brother. I had a crush on my cousin, she is 4 Ys older than me. It never happened