VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Bishop Robert]

I might be late with this, tried looking through old pages to find it:

Anyone mess with Sophias dress asset to see if there's alt ways for it to be worn or whatever (regarding straps, or skirt being lifted up)?

 

[kewlbigdan]

The focus on the kid's entry to the club cracks me up. Like THAT'S what you focus on as illogical?! Not that he's there with his mom that he's fondling and trying to bang because she isn't exactly denying the advances?
That or the fact that this woman goes hour by hour being molested or seduced by every man in town and then acts like it didn't happen moments later (what is months for everyone IRL between updates).
That or the fact that she can allow her teenage son's friend to make out with her in a hot tub, suck her bare tits in his room, remove her panties in his room but have nothing more happen before going to get a haircut like it's normal?! Lmao

That or how a teenage boy in her class has any power over her whatsoever and runs a gang of what looks like actual adult, hardened thugs?! That's not what people focus on, it's that her son got into a club. Ok.

I'm as tough on L&P as anyone but that's like the least illogical thing he has put into this story. In fact, I myself got into tons of clubs and bars starting at about 16yo. It's not even that hard at most places, tbh.

It's not that all the thing, and more, are not illogical. It's just that we have already commented ad_nausem on those before. The kid in the night club fondling a womans butt is current.
Everything is illogical in this story from the get go. Landing a commercial jet at 3000 meters starts it out. (Commented on in 2017) and the fact that it's only been 13 days since they moved here and Dylan went to boarding school for 1 night. You cant list all the illogical things.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Why are you all bullying developer? It's not a fucking holywood movie or some shit . This game is amazing and the fact that you are mad about all the little things it just shows how important this game is to you. I also love this game, it's probably the best game there is on f95 (trust me I played a lot of them).

I love idea of different jobs, different routes of guys, etc. It's f**king amazing. The slow burning creates amazing tension, just look at this thread how active it is. I wish more game were like this and not some braindead guy fucking whole family after someone just tripping over some shit .

In dev. place I would be hurt seeing such braindead and mean comments (not all mean, some are constructive). Thank you for attention

All you have mentioned is merely expressing opinions about the directions that might serve better this, after all, extraordinary game.
The only actual criticism towards developer stems from his complete lack of work ethics and moral scruples, narcissistic nature and unprofessional conduct. Far from bullying though.

 

[ancienregimele]

The point is that a game can't be everything. It is important to have a focus. That doesn't mean forgetting everything around it, just not losing sight of the focus either. If we're being honest, we have to say that L&P has simply opened up far too many side stories that he will never be able to tell to a degree where they really make sense. If everything is revisited at all, it will come across as an incoherent rehashing from as many as possible kinks and therefore make little sense. Just take the nursing home story as an example. To simply include something like this in AWAM provides no depth, but only distracts. If L&P would use more time here by removing other side stories, while at the same time increasing the connection to the main story, e.g. by having Ellie support Sopia as punishment (for something bad she may have done, eg. because she game Dylan viagra), then it would become a connected story that is more than just a useless kink run off. The same is true for lesbian LI. Here it would be better not to have so many girls, but one or max two, that Sophia then but really means something. Ultimately, too much is simply not an improvement but a deterioration.

Also, For the people who really dislike Incest, I really wonder if AWAM should be the right thing for them, because in the end it would only degrades the quality of the game. Even the fact that L&P includes a path in which Dylan is sent away, I think is a stupid idea. Who really does not like Incest, It's not only Dylan, but also Ellie, whose story would have to move into the background. I think that would be a really big mistake. Sophia would then just be there to emotionlessly fuck through as many kinks as possible.

Certainly, if I had just discovered AWAM last week, it's possible that I wouldn't have downloaded it, or more likely would have downloaded & played once, before deleting. I've tried most of the AWAM substitutes, or AWAM-inspired games & have kept none of them. AWAM for the first few years had, IMO, the potential to be (& was for a time), truly outstanding erotica. That's how it was from my POV & the pace of development meant that it didn't matter if some updates contained little or nothing of interest. When it slowed to a snail's pace & evolved into just another average teen porn game, due to last up to another 40 years, my enthusiasm waned.

Oddly, perhaps, none of the games I deleted were ditched because of the inclusion of incest but it is the case, however, that I just can't find it appealing. That may be a consequence of my tastes in porn being formed when it didn't have much of a presence & there was no "teen porn," only "porn" & that was for adults, even if it featured a cast of teens as large as that of AWAM, as did one of the first stories I remember reading, which featured a teacher & her class of evil, wayward students.

 

[Jude6]

Surprising to see how many folks are bummed by the exclusion of animation(s) from this update, to the point of calling the event a lost cause.
Back when L&P first announced a hard lean into animations there was vocal protest because of how much they'd bloat development time.

Thinking optimistically -
Maybe this is a good move, L&P could be setting up to optimize the animation part of dev time by having the animator work on the previous event, instead of the event upcoming.

It would mean having to roll back to see the new animation, but if L&P is thinking about this game in terms of how it will be experienced by future generations...
(like our great-great-grandchildren)

 

[rAmSiMaL]

Have you ever heard of "

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" ? .Great song, bud. You should listen to it, bookmark it and give it another shot once the update is out Now, don't get me wrong. I'd like to see those things too, but L&P masters the blueball breathing technique since too long and killed every inch of hope in me, leaving only skepticism

In the words of John Lenon “You may call me a dreamer but I’m not the only one”

 

[Bane71]

Where is she now?

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It is very interesting how exactly she will thank her partner for a wonderful evening?
I am looking forward to the release and hope there will be no interruptions and obstacles that L&P constantly creates in different scenes. This technique, in my opinion, he uses too often, which is very annoying.

 

[AlfredBundy4]

Surprising to see how many folks are bummed by the exclusion of animation(s) from this update, to the point of calling the event a lost cause.
Back when L&P first announced a hard lean into animations there was vocal protest because of how much they'd bloat development time.

Thinking optimistically -
Maybe this is a good move, L&P could be setting up to optimize the animation part of dev time by having the animator work on the last event, instead of the event upcoming.

It would mean having to roll back to see the new animation, but if L&P is thinking about this game in terms of how it will be experienced by future generations...
(like our great-great-grandchildren)

I think it's kind of imperative that he drops the animations if he insists on doing them himself (which he did, there was no animator...clearly). It's just not worth it if it adds a month or more to the update release like it has before. The first animations delayed that update for almost two months, IIRC. Decent animations but also not worth it.

If he wants to get this thing going and done BEFORE the year 2045 (literally, not an exaggeration) he has to hire help or drop animations in the very least. Ideally he hires help and shaves down the stories that aren't what 90% find most interesting. Save them for after a finished story is done to give this title a finish date that is somewhat acceptable.

By himself? Gotta drop the animations at the very least. The payoff isn't worth the time needed.

 

[Deleted member 558732]

He stopped doing android ports? Or were they always unofficial

 

[karleston]

Surprising to see how many folks are bummed by the exclusion of animation(s) from this update, to the point of calling the event a lost cause.
Back when L&P first announced a hard lean into animations there was vocal protest because of how much they'd bloat development time.

Thinking optimistically -
Maybe this is a good move, L&P could be setting up to optimize the animation part of dev time by having the animator work on the last event, instead of the event upcoming.

It would mean having to roll back to see the new animation, but if L&P is thinking about this game in terms of how it will be experienced by future generations...
(like our great-great-grandchildren)

Because he did include animations into the wrong events , people saw Sam and Sophia making out, they want to see Dylan and Sophia do the same

 

[dbzf]

if L&P continues at this pace it will be released mid august. for an update with no animation and a short one at that i dont understand whats taking him so long. also by now he should be creating the scenes at home which should be relatively easy than the club location or normal for him to create. whats the need to delay at 2nd half of update.

 

[ashitanojoe]

Why are you all bullying developer? It's not a fucking holywood movie or some shit . This game is amazing and the fact that you are mad about all the little things it just shows how important this game is to you. I also love this game, it's probably the best game there is on f95 (trust me I played a lot of them).

I love idea of different jobs, different routes of guys, etc. It's f**king amazing. The slow burning creates amazing tension, just look at this thread how active it is. I wish more game were like this and not some braindead guy fucking whole family after someone just tripping over some shit .

In dev. place I would be hurt seeing such braindead and mean comments (not all mean, some are constructive). Thank you for attention

It's about the development time. If this game was made at DrPinkCake or NLT Media's speed, the vast majority of the comments would be like yours. Besides, the dev here tries to justify a 5% or 10% better render quality than those devs, with more than 300% in development time.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Guess we're gluttons for punishment.

Well, I'm mainly here in case someone new asks about lesbian content. And so that when an update comes out that I am interested in, I don't have to wade through two years of posts.

Fake ID

Curious how Sophia would react to seeing Dylan use a Fake ID

Certainly, if I had just discovered AWAM last week, it's possible that I wouldn't have downloaded it, or more likely would have downloaded & played once, before deleting. I've tried most of the AWAM substitutes, or AWAM-inspired games & have kept none of them. AWAM for the first few years had, IMO, the potential to be (& was for a time), truly outstanding erotica. That's how it was from my POV & the pace of development meant that it didn't matter if some updates contained little or nothing of interest. When it slowed to a snail's pace & evolved into just another average teen porn game, due to last up to another 40 years, my enthusiasm waned.

Oddly, perhaps, none of the games I deleted were ditched because of the inclusion of incest but it is the case, however, that I just can't find it appealing. That may be a consequence of my tastes in porn being formed when it didn't have much of a presence & there was no "teen porn," only "porn" & that was for adults, even if it featured a cast of teens as large as that of AWAM, as did one of the first stories I remember reading, which featured a teacher & her class of evil, wayward students.

One of the things I find telling about this game is that when I first played it, I wasn't interested in incest either. I played the GW route. But then because of the quality of the story, I tried the first parts of the Ellie and Patricia route and found I rather enjoyed it. Still do.

Tried the first parts of the Dylan and Sam routes, but had the opposite reaction, because of the lack of quality. The quantity of events for the Dylan route also turns me off, so much so that now there are games that if they have a son character will get bumped down the list as to if I'll financially support or not, just because in my experience they just tend to be written badly.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

A more realistic “dream”… The update starts with them talking in the living room about the photoshoot (this discussion is 100% confirmed). He offers a dinner date and they end up in the nightclub. She drinks (a normal trend in the game to lower Sophia’s inhibitions)… They dance. A flashback from the past (can be anything - a wild night with her boyfriend, an interracial ons, a gangbang…). Present time groping and kissing. Sophia lets herself for a little bit and then stops it. They go home. They thank each other for the amazing date night and they go to sleep. Sophia thinks about it, gets a bit horny and comes back to reality… Dylan thinks about it, gets a bit horny, (maybe a little dream) and has a happy ending… end of PD13 alternative 1.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

Just out of curiosity… when should we expect the release of the update here? How many days after the initial release on Patreon?

 

[karleston]

Just out of curiosity… when should we expect the release of the update here? How many days after the initial release on Patreon?

Most of the time a day or two and if we are lucky hours after the patreon release.

 

[Raminita]

Can you guys act like adults here. Stop with the derailment of this thread and personal attacks.
Wait patiently for update like everyone else.

 

[Deleted member 4420830]

why this game become like this

 

[Lewd95zone]

Mark my word, therell be a little grinding on the dancefloor, she stops cause she doesnt want to be seen doing this with her son. They get home, shower together, he asks how to pleasure a woman and how women should pleasure men. They touch each other but stops before climax. Dylan goes in his room finish his job and sophia peeks in and masturbates in the corridor, ellie secretly see her mother doing it but remains silenced. The end.

 

[XaGnard]

Certainly, if I had just discovered AWAM last week, it's possible that I wouldn't have downloaded it, or more likely would have downloaded & played once, before deleting. I've tried most of the AWAM substitutes, or AWAM-inspired games & have kept none of them. AWAM for the first few years had, IMO, the potential to be (& was for a time), truly outstanding erotica. That's how it was from my POV & the pace of development meant that it didn't matter if some updates contained little or nothing of interest. When it slowed to a snail's pace & evolved into just another average teen porn game, due to last up to another 40 years, my enthusiasm waned.

Oddly, perhaps, none of the games I deleted were ditched because of the inclusion of incest but it is the case, however, that I just can't find it appealing. That may be a consequence of my tastes in porn being formed when it didn't have much of a presence & there was no "teen porn," only "porn" & that was for adults, even if it featured a cast of teens as large as that of AWAM, as did one of the first stories I remember reading, which featured a teacher & her class of evil, wayward students.

What I find pretentious about your post is that you're sort of indirectly claiming that Dylan and Ellie story is not written for adults. Also, Somehow it really annoys me that some here act as if the Incest story wasn't the core of this game from the beginning. All ingnoring that the incest story starts already in the intro, when Ellie accuses her brother of looking into her cleavage. Even the title alone is more than enough indication of what this game will be about. It was just a slow burn start. So if you don't want to play an incest game, play another game. You could also choose to play the version of the game that L&P uses for patron as a facade. Here, if I understood correctly, Dylan and Ellie are not son and daughter but only the subtenants?

Anyway, I made the effort to search in the gallery of the beginning of AWAM all scenes having either teen and/or incest content (including one scene with patrica as Sphias sister). Then when you consider that even after years of developing AWAM, Sophia has only had sex with Liam (her husband) so far, it becomes clear how ridiculous your claim is. There are about 2/3 of the scenes with content from this subject area. None of them really goes far (all somehow at most erotic) but almost all with involvement of Sophias kids. This game has not changed, the only thing that is different is that we are slowly entering the midgame. Therefore, Erotic is no longer enough, and slowly the action has to start. But AWAM is still a slow burn game, if you compare it with the average of the games here. So far, almost nothing has happened.