VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[1879]

These types of games are fantastic but they take a lot of time to develop and so a long story is rarely good or tell me games that still work at this quality for years? If they exist you can have them in one hand enumerate.
How long can you play a game that's been around for, say, three years? Maybe 5 hours or something? The ratio is bad for the user.

Better are games with short stories and explosive content over a maximum of three chapters or three characters where you can play from every point of view of the character. Then it's done and something new begins.

 

[palmtrees89]

Better are games with short stories and explosive content over a maximum of three chapters or three characters where you can play from every point of view of the character. Then it's done and something new begins.

Well, that was basically L&P's plan when it all started, but then it turned into...this. The game would of already been at the end had he stuck with the initial development process instead of turning single events to have more renders than early PD's.

 

[conair_oops]

The game is designed like reading a magazine, where players simply click next to see what happens. That's the thing, the readers will never be satisfied with what's updated, they always want to see what happens next.
If it is designed like other popular games here as Big Brother or Milfy City.. with challenges, and character scores to unlock events or scenes, it would be different.
Unfortunately, LP is probably only good at art but not a programmer

 

[1879]

Well, that was basically L&P's plan when it all started, but then it turned into...this. The game would of already been at the end had he stuck with the initial development process instead of turning single events to have more renders than early PD's.

That may be true, but the only explosive thing I see (just my opinion) is the Sam story on the bed with a conclusion (orgasmus sophia), everything else I find to be stretched out from the start.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

He's either L&P himself, or that. There is no other way.

How can one claim at the same time the dev will never abandon the project for he's too invested, and that cancelling pleads will cause his abandoning the project - that slips any form of human logic.

This kind of "thinking" is exactly the reason why we have what we have now. That being said, there is absolutely no point in any further discussion with this sort.

 

[Whitekink]

thanks and both files in the same map then get complete game

As far as it goes. Only about half-way through.

 

[Brazzoth]

He's either L&P himself, or that. There is no other way.

How can one claim at the same time the dev will never abandon the project for he's too invested, and that cancelling pleads will cause his abandoning the project - that slips any form of human logic.

This kind of "thinking" is exactly the reason why we have what we have now. That being said, there is absolutely no point in any further discussion with this sort.

I've seen a few inconditionnal L&P's fan since a few days, facepalming any comments towards criticising or claims.
They might be new to this thread and can't complain about anything or they do know L&P personnally, that being said, this is very pathetic, this is becoming a threat game, nothing more.
Nothing positive will come from this and being respectful has become useless...

 

[DDTolik]

I'm not looking forward to sex, blow job. But it seems to me that she will jerk off to Dylan, well, it's time already ...

And he, in turn, masturbates to her, she is drunk, depraved)
I really don't want to be caught or scared. I want the scene to end well, it's time already!

 

[pcaf]

A small chance is better than no chance

I agree. At current development rate it'd take decades to complete this game. No chance.

But if patrons drop their support, there is a small chance LP would change his way of doing things.

Great to see we agree on that.

 

[laskar26]

I agree. At current development rate it'd take decades to complete this game. No chance.

But if patrons drop their support, there is a small chance LP would change his way of doing things.

Great to see we agree on that.

This game has been around since 2017 and from what i'v seen, supporters number is stalling. If his numbers drop, he would have two choices :

1) Make updates faster with less money. Which a lot of "very smart and enlightened karens" in here are claming. ohh if we drop support, he is gonna be faster

this dev didn't hire a team with the money he is making right now but he is gonna do it once his income drops drastically ? Suuure why not, pinguins can spit fire too you know


2) He will start looking for another source of income (if it is not the case already) , and the delay between updates will get bigger and bigger ( a familiar situation ) , until he drops the project.

Which one do you think it is the most plausible ??

As for the solution don't ask me for one i don't have it, i am not that "enlightened". And i don't care that much to think about it, i just enjoy awam whenever i can and trolling "smart people"

 

[palmtrees89]

1) Make updates faster with less money. Which a lot of "very smart and enlightened karens" in here are claming. ohh if we drop support, he is gonna be faster

this dev didn't hire a team with the money he is making right now but he is gonna do it once his income drops drastically ? Suuure why not, pinguins can spit fire too you know

I think you're missing the bigger picture here. L&P doesn't need a team to work faster. The development of AWAM is getting slower EVERY single year, that is a fact. And so the point some people are making is that if L&P's support drops, he might start working more again to gain the lost and/or new subscribers back.

But as you said, the numbers are stalling, meaning neither do they increase or decrease really, and so he can comfortably release a single PD every 2 years while working less and eventually become a millionaire with minimal effort. If you don't believe it, check the several readily available statistics for the amount of content released on a yearly basis, render/day counts and so on.

That being said, L&P's support dropping wouldn't guarantee anything. He could abandon it or work faster. He could drop the game and start something entirely new, who knows. But as I said, the most comfortable way for him right now is to put in the absolute minimum effort possible without losing or gaining support as he makes quite a bit of money the way it is now. Question is how much slower he can get before people actually start dropping like flies. He's pushing that limit every single year again and again by getting slower. This year so far is an absolute joke in terms of released content.

 

[AlfredBundy4]

He's either L&P himself, or that. There is no other way.

How can one claim at the same time the dev will never abandon the project for he's too invested, and that cancelling pleads will cause his abandoning the project - that slips any form of human logic.

This kind of "thinking" is exactly the reason why we have what we have now. That being said, there is absolutely no point in any further discussion with this sort.

Pretty much (and he once again cried to mods and got my comment deleted anyway, lol).

That point I made was one last attempt to give support to the few claiming they'd stop giving money in protest. I just want them to realize it's their only hope to get a finished story at all, let alone sooner than 30 years from now.

We agree on that totally (and a lot more).

 

[AlfredBundy4]

This game has been around since 2017 and from what i'v seen, supporters number is stalling. If his numbers drop, he would have two choices :

1) Make updates faster with less money. Which a lot of "very smart and enlightened karens" in here are claming. ohh if we drop support, he is gonna be faster

this dev didn't hire a team with the money he is making right now but he is gonna do it once his income drops drastically ? Suuure why not, pinguins can spit fire too you know


2) He will start looking for another source of income (if it is not the case already) , and the delay between updates will get bigger and bigger ( a familiar situation ) , until he drops the project.

Which one do you think it is the most plausible ??

As for the solution don't ask me for one i don't have it, i am not that "enlightened". And i don't care that much to think about it, i just enjoy awam whenever i can and trolling "smart people"

Missing the point totally on the first part but we agree on most else.
The only way out of the scenario is to change what you can change. It's like being in a bad relationship or a Mexican Standoff (lol). If you can't change the other party, change what you can change.
Leave the bad partner and see if they care at all.
In the standoff, fire your gun or put it down. Screaming more for the other to lower theirs when they clearly won't changes nothing. You gotta do something because the status quo is a bad relationship, a Mexican Standoff or...here...waiting 30 years for your porn story to finish (assuming it isn't abandoned along the way anyway).

The idea of "it guarantees us nothing so why do anything" is straight slave mentality. It's pure and total submission. It's "I'll keep sending my money for 3 decades because I fear he may not make me pay him for 3 decades" like lolwut?! No. Do what you can. Stop playing his story, accept it'll be 30 years to finish or do what you can to help it. That's it.

 

[karleston]

This game has been around since 2017 and from what i'v seen, supporters number is stalling. If his numbers drop, he would have two choices :

1) Make updates faster with less money. Which a lot of "very smart and enlightened karens" in here are claming. ohh if we drop support, he is gonna be faster

this dev didn't hire a team with the money he is making right now but he is gonna do it once his income drops drastically ? Suuure why not, pinguins can spit fire too you know


2) He will start looking for another source of income (if it is not the case already) , and the delay between updates will get bigger and bigger ( a familiar situation ) , until he drops the project.

Which one do you think it is the most plausible ??

As for the solution don't ask me for one i don't have it, i am not that "enlightened". And i don't care that much to think about it, i just enjoy awam whenever i can and trolling "smart people"

Couldn't say that better, except maybe for the solution which is quite simple, IF YOU DON'T like the current situation, YOU CAN MOVE ON. And that's it. Without DRAMA, that's how real men act.

But yes i agree with you it is foolish to think that by dropping the support he will work faster. AND I am not saying you should keep supporting him neither, i don't feel entitled to tell people what they should do or not with their money.

 

[laskar26]

I think you're missing the bigger picture here. L&P doesn't need a team to work faster. The development of AWAM is getting slower EVERY single year, that is a fact. And so the point some people are making is that if L&P's support drops, he might start working more again to gain the lost and/or new subscribers back.

But as you said, the numbers are stalling, meaning neither do they increase or decrease really, and so he can comfortably release a single PD every 2 years while working less and eventually become a millionaire with minimal effort. If you don't believe it, check the several readily available statistics for the amount of content released on a yearly basis, render/day counts and so on.

That being said, L&P's support dropping wouldn't guarantee anything. He could abandon it or work faster. He could drop the game and start something entirely new, who knows. But as I said, the most comfortable way for him right now is to put in the absolute minimum effort possible without losing or gaining support as he makes quite a bit of money the way it is now. Question is how much slower he can get before people actually start dropping like flies. He's pushing that limit every single year again and again by getting slower. This year so far is an absolute joke in terms of released content.

I don't think i am, he will never go back to the pace he had before, because if he slowed down it means that it was not sustainable for him. His only option is to hire a team. And with less money, i am afraid it is not gonna happen, that's at least, my opinion.

Missing the point totally on the first part but we agree on most else.
The only way out of the scenario is to change what you can change. It's like being in a bad relationship or a Mexican Standoff (lol). If you can't change the other party, change what you can change.
Leave the bad partner and see if they care at all.
In the standoff, fire your gun or put it down. Screaming more for the other to lower theirs when they clearly won't changes nothing. You gotta do something because the status quo is a bad relationship, a Mexican Standoff or...here...waiting 30 years for your porn story to finish (assuming it isn't abandoned along the way anyway).

The idea of "it guarantees us nothing so why do anything" is straight slave mentality. It's pure and total submission. It's "I'll keep sending my money for 3 decades because I fear he may not make me pay him for 3 decades" like lolwut?! No. Do what you can. Stop playing his story, accept it'll be 30 years to finish or do what you can to help it. That's it.

Ok sorry Django, i am just a stephen after all.

Couldn't say that better, except maybe for the solution which is quite simple, IF YOU DON'T like the current situation, YOU CAN MOVE ON. And that's it. Without DRAMA, that's how real men act.

But yes i agree with you it is foolish to think that by dropping the support he will work faster. AND I am not saying you should keep supporting him neither, i don't feel entitled to tell people what they should do or not with their money.

If you don't like telling to people what they should do with their money, you should maybe also avoid telling them how they should act in public, just sayin..

 

[XaGnard]

This game has been around since 2017 and from what i'v seen, supporters number is stalling. If his numbers drop, he would have two choices :

1) Make updates faster with less money. Which a lot of "very smart and enlightened karens" in here are claming. ohh if we drop support, he is gonna be faster

this dev didn't hire a team with the money he is making right now but he is gonna do it once his income drops drastically ? Suuure why not, pinguins can spit fire too you know


2) He will start looking for another source of income (if it is not the case already) , and the delay between updates will get bigger and bigger ( a familiar situation ) , until he drops the project.

Which one do you think it is the most plausible ??

As for the solution don't ask me for one i don't have it, i am not that "enlightened". And i don't care that much to think about it, i just enjoy awam whenever i can and trolling "smart people"

It is a pity that you undermine the seriousness of your contribution with insults. Especially when you can't even offer a concrete solution.

Never mind, what less money would definitely achieve is that L&P really has to make a decision. Either he tries to bring the project forward again in a serious way, or he drops it (like many other developers here). But anyone who really thinks they should just keep on paying, even though less and less is being delivered, is making a big mistake in my opinion. Then it would be better to write off AWAM and spend the money elsewhere. At least that's what I'm doing for some time now. A one-person project that would mathematically take decades to complete is simply ridiculous.

 

[palmtrees89]

because if he slowed down it means that it was not sustainable for him.

Except after 6 years of development, L&P's statements and claims paint a very much different picture of what is really going on. The amount of times he's been caught straight up lying and the non-stop contradicting statements makes me tend to believe the reasons are more about what I said in my previous post. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. Fair enough.

 

[Bishop Robert]

After reading some comments here and using my knowledge on L&P I think I've come on to something.

I'll condense it to a spoiler.

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[LSC82]

That being said, L&P's support dropping wouldn't guarantee anything. He could abandon it or work faster. He could drop the game and start something entirely new, who knows. But as I said, the most comfortable way for him right now is to put in the absolute minimum effort possible without losing or gaining support as he makes quite a bit of money the way it is now. Question is how much slower he can get before people actually start dropping like flies. He's pushing that limit every single year again and again by getting slower. This year so far is an absolute joke in terms of released content.

This is very true, it's uncertain what would happen if money started to dry up, he might try to put his best foot forward in an attempt to bring people back or give up entirely, nobody knows...
The only thing certain is that the current situation is not good.

 

[McZoy]

A small chance is better than no chance

Unfortunately hope is the worst advisor.