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VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

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XaGnard said:
I don't know what some people here may have said, but I think we should all be aware that L&P is also just a human being. There is simply no way that he will not make mistakes. Nevertheless, AWAM is much better in quality compared to what a large part of other developers deliver here. At the end of the day, a rating needs to be based on this comparison, and of course a porn game is in a different position than a AAA game with high budget and a lot of people working on it. Of course, L&P could have found a better angle for this scene where Liam really wouldn't have been able to see Sam, but is that really crucial? I think, no. It's more important that this game is finished at some point than to delay the development even further just to find that correct angle.

Furthermore, I think there is a lot to criticize about L&P or AWAM, but especially the comparisons with the real world are just ridiculous, especially in a porn game. This game is based on a fictional story and has its appeal exactly in deviating from the normal. It's the mix of the unrealistic (like fun incest, etc.) in a realistic setting that makes it so appealing. I think, the point is that this event is well written (for a porn game) and it was fun to play. If someone here expects more realism, then the problem lies with him and not with AWAM. It is an exaggerated expectation that is in complete contradiction to what the goal is and should be for a porn game.
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Developers don't have to worry about angles.
It doesn't make sense that Liam doesn't spot Sam in either angle.

Of course, any football player makes mistakes.
But I'm saying that this is not the developer's mistake, it's the developer's level.

Also, I'm talking about the double standards of some fanboys.

Don't you criticize while watching football?
Don't you criticize while watching porn?

Whether it was a mistake or skill (a lack of imagination), you will criticize and compare.
various people and situations, food, employees, friends, professional athletes, and doctors etc.

I'm talking about that.



Let's add.

It wouldn't have been a problem if the developer hadn't created such a stupid situation.
Rather than putting Sam and Dylan next to Liam and asking people to accept that "Liam didn't see", it was better not to have Liam in the first place.

is it difficult?
 
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tofhdns said:
Developers don't have to worry about angles.
It doesn't make sense that Liam doesn't spot Sam in either angle.

Of course, any football player makes mistakes.
But I'm saying that this is not the developer's mistake, it's the developer's level.

Also, I'm talking about the double standards of some fanboys.

Don't you criticize while watching football?
Don't you criticize while watching porn?

Whether it was a mistake or skill (a lack of imagination), you will criticize, compare.
various people and situations, food, employees, friends, professional athletes, and doctors etc.

I'm talking about that.



Let's add...

It wouldn't have been a problem if the developer hadn't created such a stupid situation.
Rather than putting Sam and Dylan next to Liam and asking people to accept that "Liam didn't see", it was better not to have Liam in the first place.

is it difficult?
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Very descriptive. (y)
 
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PietruccioTheHilander said:
meanwhile it is the same L&P who first defined the realistic game; then nobody questions that he makes mistakes, the problem is that: if you point it out to him, he insults you
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I think, it's silly to believe in the possibility of a realistic porn game. This simply cannot exist, since the goal of a porn game is precisely the partial deviation from reality. It therefore makes zero sense to accuse L&P of alleged non-compliance with a statement. Particularly since I think that his statement referred to realistic graphics and the daily schedule.

I've said here many times that I don't think much of L&P, and one reason for that is his mainly poor project management and unfair treatment of fans of his game. I think that he, and some other developers here, exploited the pateron system. But that doesn't mean that I'm badmouthing the game itself just to spite him.

AWAM, although certainly not perfect, stands out positively from the mass of porn games here, and the qualities it has should be fairly emphasized. The exaggerated focus on realism, which would also not make sense for any other game here, I simply can not understand. It's just not a smart criticism considering that if this game is ever going to finish telling its stories, it needs to go much further.
 
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I think this image can easily explain it.

This developer is in pain, adding something that shouldn't have been added.
 
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I just want someone to name one game that’s been out for atleast 6 years where the main character has not had a sex scene except with husband (flashback from when she’s 17 yr old teen don’t count in my book) I’ll wait
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If there is one, it's probably one with very few updates and very few patrons, definitely nothing at AWAM's scale.

What I do want to mention though is that for me and me preferences, I find for example Sofia's last two Aiden tasks much hotter than I would have found a sex scene with her and Dylan or Sam. I guess it's how kinks work. Seeing a milf with a teenager (Sam) is something you can see in porn any day of the week and doesn't really do anything for me. Seeing her with Dylan is just a little better, but not far off (incest is so prevalent in porn nowadays it's almost become the norm).

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, especially with how many fans Dylan has (Sam is quite close I think). However I just wanted to say there are different viewpoints to what scenes are hot or not.
What kills me is the fact that the development speed is so slow, any one of us has to wait a long time to see his preferred scene/scenes. I imagine sometimes more than a year (I'm thinking of Ellie fans here).
 
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As I remember, 'JHON' is a developer's side job, and 'AWAM' is a developer's full-time job.

So I remember that the players of 'JHON' understood a lot and waited a lot.
 
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This year should pass quickly and next year should come, but time doesn't go by too fast.
My mood is now October, but the reality is still August. :sick:
 
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mentosa said:
I have a saying in the spirit of Ben Franklin: if you [as a game fan] are willing to sacrifice speed for realism at the end you will get neither.
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If Liam hadn't appeared when Sam and Sofia were in the Jacuzzi, the 'unreal situation' of Liam not finding Sam wouldn't have happened and we could have seen Sam and Sofia's relationship develop earlier or play the game earlier.
because of the reduced number of renderings.

'Realism' never delays the game.

Delaying game development is the developer's intention and plan.

And now, we got none of the speed and realism and sexual fantasy.
 
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