Earlier this year I did run some quick numbers regarding this, and by that time, when L&P only had 1800 patrons (right now there are around 2000 + 100 in SubscribeStar), the support was at least 8000€ (based on the amount of people who appear in the credits and the patron level required for that), but probably around 12000€. So I think 10k to 15k is a reasonable value and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a little bit higher.
But the key point here IMHO is not how expensive life is in the dev's country. What's more relevant is what you promise (in terms of quantity, quality and time estimated to finish the game) and what you actually deliver. The game was planned to be finished somewhere between 5 and 10 years time (don't remember exactly) and, based on where it is now (6 years later, finishing PD13 and with tons of animations yet to be prepared), the very best scenario would be 25 and that's being veeery optimistic. And what happened with this promise of hiring someone once the support reached certain level? Well, just another dead promise..
We could discuss this again and again but the truth is, even if it may sound illogical, the only way to speed things up is by stop supporting the game. Since I'm not paying, it's not up to me, and I know there's always a risk that L&P eventually gives up and the game gets abandoned, but I don't see any other way. People tend to wake up when they see danger coming, and not being able to pay the bill is something that definitely motivates people.
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Wow, those are some good numbers. Sounds like solid math.
I haven't followed this thread or the game too closely. I had forgotten about it entirely until I think version 2 came out or something like that. This means I am not aware of what promises L&P made to his patrons and broke. That is indeed, something not ok. If you promise something you should deliver on it. If somehow something happens one time and you can't do it, you pull harder and make up for what you failed to do earlier.
What I honestly think would be the best solution in this case, would be for people not to completely stop supporting the game, but to only subscribe to it/support it in the month of the release, maybe 2 months, if the patrons are feeling generous.
This would motivate for faster releases, at least in my mind, as those would be the months where he would make the most of his income.
Of course this is all just a theoretical exercise because there's no way to organize or influence what people do with their money. I sometimes follow a few girls on Onlyfans and it's kind of the same problem, wrapped in a different package. They have the same content, always repeating, always teasing, nothing more. As long as enough people pay them for nothing, they will never do more. It's common sense.
I wonder if L&P somehow abandoned this game in the future, if he is the type of person to give his assets to someone else to take up the torch.
I think, ORIGINALLY, he was supposed to be in grade school. because he looks and acts like a child discovering himself and girls for the first time. I think games just have to say that chars are older, to get past censors. DON'T PUSH IT, just accept that he's as old as you think he is
This is probably why I don't like Dylan, he really does act like a grade schooler most of the time. With a few glimpses or someone more mature. Just like Emma from Hillside. She is 18 years old, she looks it but she acts like a 12 year old.
I'm not talking about plans.
Everyone has a plan.
I'm referring to the fact that so far "no one has ever had sex with Sophia except her husband."
for 6 years.
Again, 'Emmanuel' isn't porn, but it has sex.
This game is a porn game, but there is no sex.
Not that it really matters, just for future reference, it's Emmanuelle. Emmanuel is a man's name and I'm not aware of any movies with that name.
Regarding the porn game without sex, it is not a finished game. It has been in development for a very long time, yes, but it is still just an indie game, developed by a single person, advancing at a snail pace. It will contain sex in the end. I think it's already established that at least one more PD if not more will also be without sex. If you really just care about that part, you can safely come back a year or two in the future and you probably wouldn't have missed any sex scenes yet. If that is what you enjoy, I don't understand why you would aggravate yourself by checking every update, when we know, it won't go that far yet. I was pleasantly surprised by this update. Especially since I don't like Dylan so much, I expected to be disappointed by this update (the one in the bathtub kind of meh). But I wasn't, the struggle Sofia was having with herself was something I enjoyed, regardless of who the event with was with.
