VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[ancienregimele]

Not a snowballs chance in hell.

Are you sure? If I was more paranoid, &/or had a bigger ego, I could readily believe that the Dev reads my comments, takes note of likes/dislikes & suggestions, then implements, or doubles down on everything I detest about AWAM & he's been doing it for years. It's almost guaranteed that the contrary of what I wished for will be delivered. Perhaps he appreciates that what I once believed AWAM to be & what I hoped for it in the future is the precise opposite of what his chosen core fans want?

Just kidding...or am I?

Seriously, it's known that he does sometimes read the thread, as evidenced by dialogue in at least one scene & the times when he used to bite back & comment himself.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Are you sure? If I was more paranoid, &/or had a bigger ego, I could readily believe that the Dev reads my comments, takes note of likes/dislikes & suggestions, then implements, or doubles down on everything I detest about AWAM & he's been doing it for years. It's almost guaranteed that the contrary of what I wished for will be delivered. Perhaps he appreciates that what I once believed AWAM to be & what I hoped for it in the future is the precise opposite of what his chosen core fans want?

Just kidding...or am I?

Seriously, it's known that he does sometimes read the thread, as evidenced by dialogue in at least one scene & the times when he used to bite back & comment himself.

A couple years ago when some posters were theorizing that the next update would have Sam and Sophia hook up in the treehouse I made a bet that wouldn't happen. I'll admit that I was a little paranoid that L&P would see that and purposely include the treehouse just as a sly way of acknowledging the thread and sabotaging me lol.

Thankfully it didn't happen.

 

[tofhdns]

This is some of the evidence that makes me think this developer is spying on this forum.

There were many controversies before version 0.185 was updated, one of which was age and the other was the illogicality of the situation.

Dylan and Ellie's age is a minor issue, but their age has grown into a big enough issue to have an impact on Sofia's past story.

And the illogical motivations Sofia's bikini modeling, which was "not poor but poor", were also a major point of debate.

And as we all know, this developer tried to end it by acknowledging or avoiding these illogical contradictions.

At the same time, the developer created another contradiction by having Sophia say that Liam did not know about Sophia's modeling activities.

As you can see from the conversation, it felt like Sophia believed it herself, not that she was lying for her son's sake.

Since Liam is Dylan's father and Sophia's husband, there was absolutely no reason for Sophia to lie to Dylan like this.

Also, this conversation contains hints about Christine.

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[菊花献给党]

This is some of the evidence that makes me think this developer is spying on this forum.

There were many controversies before version 0.185 was updated, one of which was age and the other was the illogicality of the situation.

Dylan and Ellie's age is a minor issue, but their age has grown into a big enough issue to have an impact on Sofia's past story.

And the illogical motivations Sofia's bikini modeling, which was "not poor but poor", were also a major point of debate.

And as we all know, this developer tried to end it by acknowledging or avoiding these illogical contradictions.

At the same time, the developer created another contradiction by having Sophia say that Liam did not know about Sophia's modeling activities.

As you can see from the conversation, it felt like Sophia believed it herself, not that she was lying for her son's sake.

Since Liam is Dylan's father and Sophia's husband, there was absolutely no reason for Sophia to lie to Dylan like this.

Also, this conversation contains hints about Christine.

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If the author doesn't collapse in the face of people's accusations while browsing on the forum, then his heart is truly powerful

 

[Unana]

Poet found in the game

 

[tofhdns]

If the author doesn't collapse in the face of people's accusations while browsing on the forum, then his heart is truly powerful

This developer was reacting to the contradictions (contradictions he/she created) that occurred in the game he/she was creating.

This developer has tremendous pride in himself/herself and the game he/she is making, so his/her reaction like this is natural.

And this was my purpose.

Also, looking at these reactions, I could see how weak this developer's mentality was. (I already knew this from conversations this developer had with people)

My ultimate goal was to make sure that none of these things are taken for granted and that he/she feel grateful the emotional and financial support of people and is responsive to people's needs.

And now that I'm waiting for the Steam version and not the Patreon version, my purpose is gone and I'm getting tired of putting up with some people's bullshit because of this.

I've said this time and time again: if you want to get "everything, including handjobs," there's no point in shutting up and praising or just waiting.

Only saying you want what you want and speaking up about the mistakes you see can change the situation.

From now on, I will just laugh and chat without making any plans.

If you want something from this game, so be it.
If you don't want anything from this game, so be it.

Anyway, I just have to wait for the Steam version.

 

[moovigym]

L&P is a perfectionist, has a strong ego, and is an animator employer

 

[tofhdns]

L&P is a perfectionist, has a strong ego, and is an animator employer

If this developer were a perfectionist, he/she would have given up on this game a long time ago.

This developer misrepresented name, made the situation contradictory, and at least once backed out of his/her plans due to backlash from Patron.

Perfectionists can't stand that.

His/her high self-esteem is due to his/her high income.
And his/her excessive pride has reached the point where he/she ignores his/her Patron.

And now, this excessive pride of his/her must be borne by those who support him/her emotionally or financially.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

If the author doesn't collapse in the face of people's accusations while browsing on the forum, then his heart is truly powerful

All signs indicate he ain't got one.

 

[nikypuma]

Well here is something i though was rubbish as Sophia later is going to end with Sam saying she is going to ruin her marriage.
She has already ruin her marriage when she put her had is Dylan (hj) which i think is a contradiction. I am not a back fan of Dylan never voted for him in the polls. Dylan should be chasing Sam mother more. And in my eyes he's not even a mc.

 

[Bishop Robert]

This is some of the evidence that makes me think this developer is spying on this forum.

There were many controversies before version 0.185 was updated, one of which was age and the other was the illogicality of the situation.

Dylan and Ellie's age is a minor issue, but their age has grown into a big enough issue to have an impact on Sofia's past story.

And the illogical motivations Sofia's bikini modeling, which was "not poor but poor", were also a major point of debate.

And as we all know, this developer tried to end it by acknowledging or avoiding these illogical contradictions.

At the same time, the developer created another contradiction by having Sophia say that Liam did not know about Sophia's modeling activities.

As you can see from the conversation, it felt like Sophia believed it herself, not that she was lying for her son's sake.

Since Liam is Dylan's father and Sophia's husband, there was absolutely no reason for Sophia to lie to Dylan like this.

Also, this conversation contains hints about Christine.

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Man that dialogue still pisses me off,

"sOmE cHiPs AnD dIp, and some soda, and some ice cream" tf gets that for a small party?

 

[tofhdns]

Man that dialogue still pisses me off,

"sOmE cHiPs AnD dIp, and some soda, and some ice cream" tf gets that for a small party?

I've said a few times that this developer has very little real-life experience, but even so, I really don't know how old this developer set Dylan's age to be.

Dylan probably goes back and forth between being under 10 years old and over 20 years old.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Man that dialogue still pisses me off,

"sOmE cHiPs AnD dIp, and some soda, and some ice cream" tf gets that for a small party?

Well if Dylan invites the football team, there's already going to be a lot of sausages

 

[TomUK]

I've said a few times that this developer has very little real-life experience, but even so, I really don't know how old this developer set Dylan's age to be.

Dylan probably goes back and forth between being under 10 years old and over 20 years old.

Sophia is still meant to be under 40, I think 38? So if she was 19/20 when those pics were taken, then she had Ellie at 20/21 and Dylan at 21/22 that would make Ellie 17/18 and Dylan 16/17.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sophia is still meant to be under 40, I think 38? So if she was 19/20 when those pics were taken, then she had Ellie at 20/21 and Dylan at 21/22 that would make Ellie 17/18 and Dylan 16/17.

That is correct, at least according to this post by L&P. The fact that Ellie has tattoos, and a few other pieces that corroborate, I put her, hence Jules, Christine etc at 18.

Emma is stated as being the same age as Dylan, and since Zac is in the same football team, I assume him as well, so probably most of Sophia's class. Although I believe Aiden was held back a year due to poor grades and/or attendance, so he might be 18.

 

[tofhdns]

Sophia is still meant to be under 40, I think 38? So if she was 19/20 when those pics were taken, then she had Ellie at 20/21 and Dylan at 21/22 that would make Ellie 17/18 and Dylan 16/17.

That isn't what I meant!!!

I know he's between 16 and 18, and I've even seen the developer declare Dylan's age to be over 18. (maybe)

I was talking about “Dylan wanting ice cream for his birthday party and he was drinking at a nightclub.”

Also, Dylan was receiving sex education from his mother and he was afraid of women.

Dylan also told his mom that he wanted a striptease dancer at his birthday party.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

Sophia is still meant to be under 40, I think 38? So if she was 19/20 when those pics were taken, then she had Ellie at 20/21 and Dylan at 21/22 that would make Ellie 17/18 and Dylan 16/17.

Sophia 38
Liam 40-42 ?
Ellie 18
Dylan 16

 

[DylansMoM_001]

That isn't what I meant!!!

I know he's between 16 and 18, and I've even seen the developer declare Dylan's age to be over 18. (maybe)

I was talking about “Dylan wanting ice cream for his birthday party and he was drinking at a nightclub.”

Also, Dylan was receiving sex education from his mother and he was afraid of women.

Dylan also told his mom that he wanted a striptease dancer at his birthday party.

Dylan can't be 18. For evidence check out the Sophia/Dylan part 1 when they talk about Dylan's upcoming birthday.
Dylan says - " I'm going be ** not 7 ".. or something like that..
Which clearly means he's turning 17 not 7. Lol

 

[tofhdns]

Dylan can't be 18. For evidence check out the Sophia/Dylan part 1 when they talk about Dylan's upcoming birthday.
Dylan says - " I'm going be ** not 7 ".. or something like that..
Which clearly means he's turning 17 not 7. Lol

I don't care about Dylan's age.

He first appeared with the face of someone who had just graduated from elementary school.
At the same time, he is in the 11th or 12th grade of high school.
(If I understand correctly, Ellie is in 12th grade and Dylan is in 11th grade, but I'm not sure.)
He received sex education from his mother that was difficult for even a 12-year-old to receive, and he drank at nightclubs that were difficult for even 19-year-olds to enter.

The reason I said "I don't know how old the developer set Dylan's age" was because of the inconsistencies in his behavior.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I don't care about Dylan's age.

He first appeared with the face of someone who had just graduated from elementary school.
At the same time, he is in the 11th or 12th grade of high school.
(If I understand correctly, Ellie is in 12th grade and Dylan is in 11th grade, but I'm not sure.)
He received sex education from his mother that was difficult for even a 12-year-old to receive, and he drank at nightclubs that were difficult for even 19-year-olds to enter.

The reason I said "I don't know how old the developer set Dylan's age" was because of the inconsistencies in his behavior.

In regards to Dylan's face, as far as we (in the fan art thread) know, he's based on

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. Someone about 12, so any confusion in that regard is pretty understandable. On the occasion I did some fan art with him in it, it took a fair amount of tweaking to get someone looking like Dylan, but also looking like a 17-yr old.