Wbwbd85

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I understand cutting out the side jobs. But LP is probably going to make the supposed short Ellie and Sam in the morning longer. Lp only knows how to make a short cut last longer.
 
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Radoslaw Wolf

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If L&P isn't lying this time or Being unsure about the future of this vn then Fuck him he Absolutely makes no sense. First introduce new intresting characters, then cut them off without a logical ending.
Yep, sounds like him. Looks like Steam adjustments are taking longer than he planned - all by himself. And we still have not gotten into the animation bullshit saga yet...
 
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L&P is saying he wants to streamline the game to completion but is adding a big scene with Dylan and Ellie at a party? Sophia is the game - hence the title, "A Wife And Mother". Don't kill the side jobs, wrap them up instead. Jerk off and/or suck off the old men after trying on the sexy nurse costume and reintroduce the old nurse coming back. Easy. Give the Myer's boys a sexy lingerie show, watch their dicks get hard, help them have their "first" orgasms by whatever means necessary, and afterward Mrs. Myers can let Sophia know she finished her work project or something like that. The story is about the corruption of Sophia. If you want to reach the end then move forward with SOPHIA. All of the groundwork has been laid and up to this point she only given Dylan a hand job. Sam has made her cum but she hasn't even touched his dick! Sophia needs to start sucking and fucking her way to becoming a true slut and that is the only way the game can end with a satisfied conclusion. Dylan/Ellie stories that are not central to Sophia are just a waste of time. Move forward with Sophia and get closer to the end of the game.
 

Bishop Robert

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If asked would I rather the Dylan and Marie, Dylan and Amber or 1st and 2nd side jobs, be removed for progress to go quicker I'd rather the former even though I enjoy both (more so the one with Amber than Marie). I don't mind Dylans events but if were getting rid of storylines I'd start with those two.

Granted for events with Sophia I don't see any problem with events like Bennet and Emma being removed.

It wouldn't be removed but I would have zero complaints with the Aiden story being tossed after seeing what direction it's going towards.
 

Hate Mee

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L&P is a good decision to remove those 2 side jobs storylines from the main game. In addition to this, some of the more unpopular characters in the game should also be removed. And he has to focus completely on the main storylines of the game. This saves fans from having to wait years for events for some of the game's most popular characters. Also, even their patreon members only want to see more of certain storylines and their events. and L&P can do another idea add some now removed storylines and characters to the dlc game for the DLC game someone hire a developer for that dlc and release those events along with the main game updates release.
 

Couto25

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Dylan with other girls even in previous updates like with his aunt and christine beside ellie is waste of time tbh...it should be more around dylan/sam/sophia event....all those side stories are waste of time ...even dylan patricia was waste of time....yes it maybe 1/2 small events but it takes like 6/7 months for update...and it has nothing to do with MC corruption at all...these side storyline can be updated after finishing main story plot. 1 side story may take a month to render that's why it sucks and it's not even relevant to the game "A wife and a mother" ..idk why people voted for dylan to be another MC...it is totally different genre of game and dylan POV gameplay is more like student going on for college girl ...totally different genre from incest, female protagonist, cheating and corruption path. Dylan path is like dating screenplay.
 

Hate Mee

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Even that museum date is only for Sophia dirty points, that event can also be said to be just a waste of time. Now the game doesn't need that incident since Sofia has already gotten enough dirty points. Moreover, this event is a new environment. This event takes more time. if L&P changed that museum event to a Sophia/Patricia lesbian event instead. Or giving us a Parker family event would be exciting.
 

DarthSpitz717

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it is pretty easy to end them now.

It doesn't make any sense for Sophia to ever have sex with the old guys, as it would take a lot of scenes to get Sophia to a point to do that, which would drag out AWAM for too long. At best a one-off event that makes the old guy day is prob all Sophia would do and it ends that.

Even though I think the tutoring job has much potential, eventually Sophia is going to figure out the boys know more than they letting on and she has been tricked. Just have Sophia figure it out and we choose between her not tutoring again, or leaving and speaking to their mum, saying they don't need tutoring again but she is convinced by their mum to do one more tutoring session to make sure. Sophia is mad and not looking forward to it, but later, she realizes that she rather enjoyed it and in the tutoring session we decide how far she goes in that last tutoring session.

I would personally prefer Sophia to figure it out and play along with it for the remainder of AWAM, but the above does naturally bring the tutoring job to a quick end but also a satisfactory end.

Also, I never believed Sophia would have sex with all 3 of them, certainly not anywhere near Sophia agreeing to that right now in the story, at best a blowjob maybe or finishing the handjob from the earlier scene.
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The only negative coming out of the "side jobs," being ended, is not seeing how the Developer workout an ending because there is no way out of the plot trap the Developer created with both jobs. Think of it as seeing a train wreck approaching and you want to wait around and see what happens. There is no exit even if the side job routes were left open.

The Old men route:
Worst side job of the two. The character of Sophia has two sides. The socially accepted, mother, wife, and functional member of society she has crafted for herself. She conforms to the norms that society expects of her. Then there is the wild side of Sophia, where she can be tempted, hasn't had enough exploration prior to settling down and events keep awakening her urges and desires as well as she is a creature of her past wanting to relive her youth.

The old men do nothing to reawaken old memories or adventures from her youth. She was very much like her daughter, Ellie, in how she saw boys. Then there is the social conformist Sophia that further acts as a wall. Sophia isn't attracted to either of them since she has the attention of all the "young" viral males around her giving her the sort of attention she always liked throughout her life. Worst she almost has total control over her behaviors and events don't occur that makes her want to give in. The Developer hasn't put it in such blunt terms, but Sophia wants to be ridden and experience her full sexual energy. Two old farts would come up short in that department.

The Boys Route:
More an issue of lost opportunity and timing that makes letting the boys have their way with her not a valid option. If the Developer really wanted this route to work, a breakthrough needed to have occurred in the last tutoring session with the boys. I could see Sophia getting excited over the attention from the boys and could have sparked her curiosity of "what if," or "what it would be like." When Sophia was on the phone call during the last tutoring session, she could have felt those corrupting feelings of being touched and explored. The player could have seen the inner monologue and struggle to deal with it. Then in a release or two Sophia could be presented with the whole issue, and the Developer could have taken us all down that rabbit hole to whatever ending the Developer wanted--more or less.

Both side job routes ignore Sophia's basic character build and fails to exploit it to a workable ending.
 

Bishop Robert

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Would I be wrong in thinking: Instead of ending them, they both have their next event both ending with Sophia finishing her business but implying she'll check up on them later. Fast forward to when Sophia is more horny and slutty she then comes back and we have a sexual update for both side jobs?
 

DarthSpitz717

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Even that museum date is only for Sophia dirty points, that event can also be said to be just a waste of time. Now the game doesn't need that incident since Sofia has already gotten enough dirty points. Moreover, this event is a new environment. This event takes more time. if L&P changed that museum event to a Sophia/Patricia lesbian event instead. Or giving us a Parker family event would be exciting.
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Not if L&P is smart that the Developer would let this event go and make it for building "Filthy" points. If it is as you say, it's a total waste of a great opportunity to open a Sophia/Patrica lesbian event.

I've said in past posts there isn't enough Patrica content to just get Sophia and Patrica together. But if Sophia and Patrica can share a secret that puts them two in the realm of plausibility of being together, the museum date with the college boys would be perfect. And as far as the story goes, it strengthens the narrative of all the plots.

What has to occur is both Sophia and Patrica have to have a shared bonding experience that is a secret. So if Patrica and Sophia either has sex with the two college boys, or a very serious make out session; maybe some of both then when Sophia and Patrica engage in other events and activities, it is the one thing that they share and draw fuel on for their passions for each other.

Got to remember Sophia needs pushing to get around her idealized vision of herself as a wife and mother. Grownup Sophia knows somethings are taboo as she has been raised to believe in. Mischievous Sophia is open to new things but only when presented with them and it feels too good to stop.
 

Notretsam

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The only negative coming out of the "side jobs," being ended, is not seeing how the Developer workout an ending because there is no way out of the plot trap the Developer created with both jobs. Think of it as seeing a train wreck approaching and you want to wait around and see what happens. There is no exit even if the side job routes were left open.

The Old men route:
Worst side job of the two. The character of Sophia has two sides. The socially accepted, mother, wife, and functional member of society she has crafted for herself. She conforms to the norms that society expects of her. Then there is the wild side of Sophia, where she can be tempted, hasn't had enough exploration prior to settling down and events keep awakening her urges and desires as well as she is a creature of her past wanting to relive her youth.

The old men do nothing to reawaken old memories or adventures from her youth. She was very much like her daughter, Ellie, in how she saw boys. Then there is the social conformist Sophia that further acts as a wall. Sophia isn't attracted to either of them since she has the attention of all the "young" viral males around her giving her the sort of attention she always liked throughout her life. Worst she almost has total control over her behaviors and events don't occur that makes her want to give in. The Developer hasn't put it in such blunt terms, but Sophia wants to be ridden and experience her full sexual energy. Two old farts would come up short in that department.

The Boys Route:
More an issue of lost opportunity and timing that makes letting the boys have their way with her not a valid option. If the Developer really wanted this route to work, a breakthrough needed to have occurred in the last tutoring session with the boys. I could see Sophia getting excited over the attention from the boys and could have sparked her curiosity of "what if," or "what it would be like." When Sophia was on the phone call during the last tutoring session, she could have felt those corrupting feelings of being touched and explored. The player could have seen the inner monologue and struggle to deal with it. Then in a release or two Sophia could be presented with the whole issue, and the Developer could have taken us all down that rabbit hole to whatever ending the Developer wanted--more or less.

Both side job routes ignore Sophia's basic character build and fails to exploit it to a workable ending.
I can't really comment about the old guys, as I don't remember a dam thing about it, think there was a sexy nurse outfit they ordered for her.

For me, anyone not named Liam, Dylan or Ellie where there to further corrupt Sophia and allow us choices on how far she go on the good wife route with Lian, the filthy route with Dylan and the lesbian route with Ellie. There were certainly some characters who had more contact with Sophia and had more of an influence. So the side jobs were never really a long-term story for me, they were there to provide variety and corrupt Sophia more.

However, there is a lot of potential in the tutoring job that can cause conflict in any of the 3 routes I mentioned above, however, I never really felt that was where AWAM was going.

Would I be wrong in thinking: Instead of ending them, they both have their next event both ending with Sophia finishing her business but implying she'll check up on them later. Fast forward to when Sophia is more horny and slutty she then comes back and we have a sexual update for both side jobs?
that would work, could even do a dream sequence, we get to the end of the day and she goes to bed, and you think it's all over and suddenly a dream scene where she goes all the way with the 3 of them.

was a dream sequence with the guy in prison, Larry? L&P already established dream sequences as a way out and it is logical. everything that is going on would stir up urges in Sophia, enough that she would dream about stuff she would never ever do.
 

Alley_Cat

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why he has to cut side job route outta the story? While no one cares dylans route with chicks
Both. Both is good.
Jesus Fucking Christ. I was waiting for the old guys to fuck Sophia and now this gets fucked? What else - Aiden story will discontinue and there will be no possible gangbangs?

So glad I discontinued support for this game. First it was slow, now in addition, it abandons possibly the greatest story lines for small dicked-kids to fuck a grown-ass woman.
Sophia fucking the old guys was never going to happen. L&P likes young kids too much.
 

Couto25

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Any corruption path would have been better than dylan side story...sophia with massage boy ..she was nude and allowed him to touch her boobs in class....sophia with patricia in bar with guys...sophia with husband's friend while drunk where she allowed little touch, Sophia with teacher date where she gave her panties... although it end but they could have moved it forward...sophia with maid, sophia with sam as now she's her gf and many more ... even with old men maybe few dont like it but it is a path as she shared her feelings and everything with them during nursing job.

even someone who play this game for the first time from the beginning will skip this dylan party as they will be much eager to make sophia more corrupt, i will skip dylan's party part. Maybe it took a month for developer to render these images and storyline and give teaser...i don't like any of the teaser related to dylan ellie christie party at all when it comes to the main story... what i expected.
 
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