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The way it was originally written if you went down the path of Dylan dropping out of school and going to the other school away from Aiden to avoid the blackmail.

It was revealed, and by revealed I mean Sam had to twist Dylan's arm to get him to talk:

Aiden & Dylan are not in confrontation.
Aiden & Dylan are in collaboration. They are friends!
Aiden's "Bullying" was all Dylan's plan to manipulate Sophia
Aiden also had his own plans in mind of course, but the main plan was orchestrated by Dlyan.

Dylan was supposed to be the master mind behind all that Aiden shit, but that made a lot of people butt hurt when Dylan become a villian. The whiners came out and made L&P cut that line and make Dylan a good boy.
Your comment makes little to no sense, I have been playing this game for almost 6 years now and never once I have heard Dylan being talked about as a conspirator. The incest in porn VNs and comics goes this way always, " Mom I'm a loser, I can't find a girlfriend, my classmates make fun of me etc. etc", and the mom goes like," Okay let me help you but we will not do this again", and then in the garb of "helping boost confidence", everything happens b/w them. It's this or the boy is the breadwinner of the family, the father is not in the picture, and then things happen via, showing affection, flirting, corruption etc. These are the two paths most developers follow, very few dev have made the son character follow the path of blackmailing their mum. I can't even name anything other than Immoral desires comic that follows this blackmailing path. It happens a lot in JAVs and Manhwa, but i have rarely seen it being this way in western comics or porn games.
 
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The problem with that is that "incest" is a hot topic of trouble for any developer to do a story around. Whether people agree with it or not, developers of visual novels will never be given a Game of Thrones pass for incest and will have projects deleted from sites where we can make money. So most of us are not going to risk it or try and do step relations which most aren't interested in, so therefore we end up looking at non-incest stories instead.
Developers still make those games, just by replacing the words by landlady and tenants etc. Incest is taboo topic for many but it clearly sells, otherwise, Stepmom, Stepson, Stepdaughter, Stepdad and Stepsister wouldn't be popular genres of porn. People are just uncomfortable with the titles and not the content.
 

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Your comment makes little to no sense, I have been playing this game for almost 6 years now and never once I have heard Dylan being talked about as a conspirator. The incest in porn VNs and comics goes this way always, " Mom I'm a loser, I can't find a girlfriend, my classmates make fun of me etc. etc", and the mom goes like," Okay let me help you but we will not do this again", and then in the garb of "helping boost confidence", everything happens b/w them. It's this or the boy is the breadwinner of the family, the father is not in the picture, and then things happen via, showing affection, flirting, corruption etc. These are the two paths most developers follow, very few dev have made the son character follow the path of blackmailing their mum. I can't even name anything other than Immoral desires comic that follows this blackmailing path. It happens a lot in JAVs and Manhwa, but i have rarely seen it being this way in western comics or porn games.
Just search the thread for "The Twist" and Dylan as the conspirator will come up. It's only the first two tasks that were part of the deal though.
 

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Developers still make those games, just by replacing the words by landlady and tenants etc. Incest is taboo topic for many but it clearly sells, otherwise, Stepmom, Stepson, Stepdaughter, Stepdad and Stepsister wouldn't be popular genres of porn. People are just uncomfortable with the titles and not the content.
I never said it didn't sell and yes, developers find workarounds but like AWAM recently proved, that carries a risk and a lot of developers won't take the chance.

Although, I probably shouldn't speak for all developers. I theorize the risk is why many developers won't go near incest-based stories.
 

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So, what happened? It got disabled, I know that. Usually, it gets re-activated after some time. The dev did good on Patreon, it doesn't make sense that he would just abandon it.
People reported him after sauna fiasco updates. First his account was suspended for day or two, page back to life, not long after patreon take him down for incest and shota, end of story
 

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Just search the thread for "The Twist" and Dylan as the conspirator will come up. It's only the first two tasks that were part of the deal though.
yup, I was going to post this in reply.

Still a shame L&P backed out of that twist and I've given up on L&P adding any type of plot twist now to AWAM.

Was a chance for Sophia to be caught with Sam by Julia. Even Liam catching Sophia with Dylan in the jacuzzi or someone catching Sophia with Ellie at the Spa. So many times she could've been caught and probably should've been at least once.

It would add much-needed plot to AWAM.

Still somewhat hoping that Dylan and Sam have a deal on who can get the furthest with Sophia, but doubt it.
 
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Just search the thread for "The Twist" and Dylan as the conspirator will come up. It's only the first two tasks that were part of the deal though.
Okay, I was part of the forum back then, but had barely any interest in conversations on the forum, maybe that's why I didn't know about it. That twist would have made the story interesting though, can't really blame L&P pruning it if his patrons created havoc regarding it. Man, I believe this game would have been better with Dylan's blackmailing path, progress would be slow as it is now, but the scenes would have been really good. Dylan putting Sophia in precarious situations with Aiden's help would have fast tracked Sophia's corruption as well and we could have got some really steamy scenes. Alas, LP's patrons are no less drama queens than LP himself.
 

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Other dev should make more games like this so that this game get some competition
I know ms denvers and no more money and midnight paradise they are trying but i think we need some more better option
No More Money isn't like this at all. First of all, it's a young male protag, not a middle age female. It only has blueballing when it comes to the sister, not overall. What would be good, would be something similar, but without the stupid dragged out no sex bullshit. Closest to that might be Project Myriam, which is great (I'm a patron in fact), but there is no incest - though there might be with the (sort of but not really) stepson (he's actually her ex boyfriend's son, so doesn't really count - at least as far as Patreon is concerned. For now.) Also, Myriam is a bit younger - like mid 30s rather than 40-ish.
 

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Okay, I was part of the forum back then, but had barely any interest in conversations on the forum, maybe that's why I didn't know about it. That twist would have made the story interesting though, can't really blame L&P pruning it if his patrons created havoc regarding it. Man, I believe this game would have been better with Dylan's blackmailing path, progress would be slow as it is now, but the scenes would have been really good. Dylan putting Sophia in precarious situations with Aiden's help would have fast tracked Sophia's corruption as well and we could have got some really steamy scenes. Alas, LP's patrons are no less drama queens than LP himself.
I don't understand your post, Sophia's blackmail route through Aiden still exists. The only difference is that Dylan is no longer the initiator of the blackmail, but his security is the means of pressure for Aiden.
 

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what? How dylan setup the whole blackmail stuff?
I think that he's referring to some fan-made stuff because it Certainly hasn't been set up in the main game. As droll as it has become, the original game has Dylan being set up as the typical virgin teen son who's just starting to truly notice females and stumbling through his sexuality. If anyone hates Dylan, then you'd have to hate 95% of the MMCs in all of the games because it's the same trope, believe it or not.
 
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I don't understand your post, Sophia's blackmail route through Aiden still exists. The only difference is that Dylan is no longer the initiator of the blackmail, but his security is the means of pressure for Aiden.
I know that Aiden's path still exists. My comment is more of a "What if" scenario. The nature of blackmailing Sophia could have been different if L&P got to do what he really intended with the story. The blackmailing we saw was Aiden's idea of blackmailing, Dylan's idea could have been different, like him putting Sophia in precarious positions with him to fulfill Aiden's demands. Hope it clears the intention behind my comment.
 

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I think that he's referring to some fan-made stuff because it Certainly hasn't been set up in the main game. As droll as it has become, the original game has Dylan being set up as the typical virgin teen son who's just starting to truly notice females and stumbling through his sexuality. If anyone hates Dylan, then you'd have to hate 95% of the MMCs in all of the games because it's the same trope, believe it or not.
There actually was a scene in the game ages ago where dylan confessed that he was behind it, you unlocked it if you refused the blackmail and send dylan to boarding school but L & P removed it in the next update.
 

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There actually was a scene in the game ages ago where dylan confessed that he was behind it, you unlocked it if you refused the blackmail and send dylan to boarding school but L & P removed it in the next update.
Thanks for that response. The change that L&P made is probably what started the avalanche of controversial takes in this thread. They should have just stuck with the plan and had Sophia find out early about it then deal with Dylan. Then there wouldn't have been a need for so many side stories, imo.
 
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