Andre13

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Because right now if you don't take the 4"blackmail"routes/Bennett,Aiden,janitor,mafia/ you probably don't have enough filthy points.
And thats exactly why im done with this game. Well, maybe i'll try it out later with some mods, where you can add the filthy points and avoid the blackmail stories, but for now it's over for me ...
 

Vainglorious

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Because right now if you don't take the 4"blackmail"routes/Bennett,Aiden,janitor,mafia/ you probably don't have enough filthy points.
I've avoided all those and haven't had a problem with having enough points. Didn't do the subway harassment either.
 

armion82

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I've avoided all those and haven't had a problem with having enough points. Didn't do the subway harassment either.
Of course now you don't have problems if you are playing only lesbian paths,but probably for most males you will need to participate in either 1 or several of these routes or going with the boys-Dylan,Sam,Zack etc.
 

Vainglorious

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Of course now you don't have problems if you are playing only lesbian paths,but probably for most males you will need to participate in either 1 or several of these routes or going with the boys-Dylan,Sam,Zack etc.
I am doing the Dylan and Sam stuff as well. I'm just not doing the blackmail stuff. stats.png
 
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Vainglorious

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So I am right.You are forced to either go with false blakmail routes or with the boys.Avoding all of them will result in not enough filthy poinths.
Possibly. I'm not trying just lesbian. I'm just doing the parts I want. I was just pointing out you don't need the blackmail to play the rest.
 

Ursus4321

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One of the best things about this game is that you can control who you want to be with and who you do not. If you want to corrupt you can choose how. Nothing forces you to enter all the options. Kids, ok or not. Lesbian, ok or not. and with everyone is the same
 

armion82

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Mar 28, 2017
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One of the best things about this game is that you can control who you want to be with and who you do not. If you want to corrupt you can choose how. Nothing forces you to enter all the options. Kids, ok or not. Lesbian, ok or not. and with everyone is the same
Actualy you can't realy control it.If you want to get only 1 or a couple of characters,you suddenly wll realise that you need to add some more or you simply will not have enough filthy or lesbian temptation points.
 

DudeDiabolos

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I received an important message from LP and must publish it. That's all, no more jokes about our Dylan.

So here is a little overview about Dylan's character, what was also all mentioned in the game:

He is sporty, is the best goal getter in his new football(soccer) team, had a lot of friends in his former town and high school. He's also already found many friends in the new town San Alejo. Nothing what would make him a loser!!! The only person who sees him like that is his older sister, out of some unknown reason YET. She's also the one who pranked him because she thought he wanted to scare her naked on day 4. The other girls (Julia/Christine) just played along, but Sophia noticed something more about that scene which she will talk with Ellie about in the next update 0.085!
A pervert is also something what only his sister is calling him. But actually, Dylan is a "cool", popular teenager who gets very shy if it's about girls. He explained it to Sophia. While almost all his friends have girlfriends, he can't get one because he's acting like a complete fool if he's standing in front of a girl. His mother is the only women/girl with whom he doesn't feel extremely shy. That's why he's approaching her and wishes that she could help him to lose his shyness somehow. Because he's also not blind and sees that his mother is hot! He's very desperated and also would like to have some experiences with girls finally. He's in puberty and his hormones are acting up. So it's pretty understandable! Sophia understood it and will decide how far can she go with him, to make him more relaxed with girls. And what can she teach him about the other gender to also make him more relaxed and not so desperated.

About Aiden's problem: This case was clearly explained a couple of times! Dylan and Zac wanted to protect a weaker student. Dylan even nudged Aiden to the ground! But then he and Zac were surrounded by his older friends and it turned out who Aiden actually is and what connections he's got. So fighting Aiden, who has contacts to dangerous criminal gang members wouldn't be very wise. Especially because neither Dylan nor Zac are moving in such circles!
And neither Dylan nor Zac told their moms anything about it because they didn't want their help!!! They stood their ground and endured Aiden's mobbing. Sophia saw it just by accident! And of course as his loving mother she'd do anything for her son! But the player has to decide what exactly! Dylan never asked for her help. Only what concerns girls!
In the conversation between Liam and Sophia you also learn, that Dylan never had any problems with another kids in school!

And about Mr. Bennett: people should've noticed that only after he met Sophia he gave Dylan a bad grade! What do you think why???

So Dylan is actually anything but a loser! Just a "shy-in-front-of-girls-teenager" who became a victim of some unfortunate incidents!

This is also the problem with the other characters. People are playing with their finger on the ctrl button and then saying nothing makes sense. But there are many hints and explanations about everything in the story, spread over the game yet!
Thank you for sharing the message. :)
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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Apr 23, 2017
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I received an important message from LP and must publish it. That's all, no more jokes about our Dylan.

So here is a little overview about Dylan's character, what was also all mentioned in the game:

He is sporty, is the best goal getter in his new football(soccer) team, had a lot of friends in his former town and high school. He's also already found many friends in the new town San Alejo. Nothing what would make him a loser!!! The only person who sees him like that is his older sister, out of some unknown reason YET. She's also the one who pranked him because she thought he wanted to scare her naked on day 4. The other girls (Julia/Christine) just played along, but Sophia noticed something more about that scene which she will talk with Ellie about in the next update 0.085!
A pervert is also something what only his sister is calling him. But actually, Dylan is a "cool", popular teenager who gets very shy if it's about girls. He explained it to Sophia. While almost all his friends have girlfriends, he can't get one because he's acting like a complete fool if he's standing in front of a girl. His mother is the only women/girl with whom he doesn't feel extremely shy. That's why he's approaching her and wishes that she could help him to lose his shyness somehow. Because he's also not blind and sees that his mother is hot! He's very desperated and also would like to have some experiences with girls finally. He's in puberty and his hormones are acting up. So it's pretty understandable! Sophia understood it and will decide how far can she go with him, to make him more relaxed with girls. And what can she teach him about the other gender to also make him more relaxed and not so desperated.

About Aiden's problem: This case was clearly explained a couple of times! Dylan and Zac wanted to protect a weaker student. Dylan even nudged Aiden to the ground! But then he and Zac were surrounded by his older friends and it turned out who Aiden actually is and what connections he's got. So fighting Aiden, who has contacts to dangerous criminal gang members wouldn't be very wise. Especially because neither Dylan nor Zac are moving in such circles!
And neither Dylan nor Zac told their moms anything about it because they didn't want their help!!! They stood their ground and endured Aiden's mobbing. Sophia saw it just by accident! And of course as his loving mother she'd do anything for her son! But the player has to decide what exactly! Dylan never asked for her help. Only what concerns girls!
In the conversation between Liam and Sophia you also learn, that Dylan never had any problems with another kids in school!

And about Mr. Bennett: people should've noticed that only after he met Sophia he gave Dylan a bad grade! What do you think why???

So Dylan is actually anything but a loser! Just a "shy-in-front-of-girls-teenager" who became a victim of some unfortunate incidents!

This is also the problem with the other characters. People are playing with their finger on the ctrl button and then saying nothing makes sense. But there are many hints and explanations about everything in the story, spread over the game yet!
When did you get this message?
 

Lerox

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I admit, I'm not much a lesbian fun or maybe better say I was not. I've played once again this lesbian scene between Patricia and Sophia in the last update, and, what to say, it was excellent, really excellent. Plus this little animation where the girls kiss each other with passion, which I probably overlooked before in the heat of the game. Such a spicy touch to the whole scene. I don't know what's wrong with me, but I liked it. Maybe lesbian not so bad if it is presented with such a class and so reliably. I'm for it, I really want more. More such scenes between Patricia and Sophia. And that Ellie's surprised look at mom and aunt kissing passionately. As to devotion developer to details - reaction of girls after kissing, Patricia licked his lips of saliva with his tongue bodly looking at Sophia's eyes and Sophia on the contrary, she looks away astonished with the whole situation and incapably, hastily wipes his lips with hand.

Wouldn't think before I will post my vote for girls action in this game. It also testifies that this game is worth to return and play it once again, second time to discern and enjoy details, maybe not spotted for the first time. This proves the quality of the game.
 
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Actualy we don't have real blackmail in the game.Still if the players feel it like a blackmail.
compared to fashion business & the rest of female protagonist game this blackmail stuff is more vanilla

One of the best things about this game is that you can control who you want to be with and who you do not. If you want to corrupt you can choose how. Nothing forces you to enter all the options. Kids, ok or not. Lesbian, ok or not. and with everyone is the same
yeah the good thing on this game is player can choose their own fetish but when you missed out 1 event or choosable option for your certain fav npc route you missed them entirely
 

lesbiaN7ncest

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One of the best things about this game is that you can control who you want to be with and who you do not. If you want to corrupt you can choose how. Nothing forces you to enter all the options. Kids, ok or not. Lesbian, ok or not. and with everyone is the same
Except that that's patently false, because of the terrible game design where the lesbian content with Ellie and Patricia is gated behind being forced to get Filthy points and make non-lesbian based choices with men all the time. To get max points with either of them and even get a good degree of their content, you have to basically get involved with a good majority of the male content directly, either to have the Filthy point requirements or needing to trigger certain events just so latter ones happen. Because almost everything involving them isn't even determined by Lesbian points, it's almost all related to Filthy points, and the largest source of them is male-based encounters.

And it quickly snowballs to the point where only a few days in its straight up impossible to get Ellie and Patricia scenes --and thus additional character-specific points with them-- so you can never get up enough points with them to progress because you keep falling behind more and more with each missed encounter. L&P has stubbornly insisted in the past that it's because the two are "special characters" because they're Sophia's daughter and sister respectively, but it's just straight up bad game design when certain paths are gated behind nonsensical, unrelated content. There should be a means to get to their content purely through the lesbian route. Instead, if you want to get with either of them, you've got to be a massive cock-whore.

I used to suggest that people just cheat the filthy points with a save game editor just to get the type of path you want to do a proper, full lesbian path, but even the most recent updates put paid to that as an option because you can't even have the...
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so even then because L&P has forced some of the encounters to be choice-based rather than point based, you're still forced into slutting it up with men.
 

yihman1

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Technically Sophia is the victim of "Extortion", and not "Blackmail". Aren't they the same thing? No, they are very similar.

Blackmail: the action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing compromising or damaging information about them.

Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

What would an example of Blackmail on Sophia be?

Sophia goes out on a 2nd date with the fratboys on this coming Friday. Neil the neighbor (the one who got slapped for drugging her, and trying to take advantage in her bathroom) was in an argument with his wife Amber, and went out to have a drink that same night to blow off some steam. Coincidentally Neil spots Sophia at the nightclub. She does not see him, and he keeps his distance from her. Neil notices she is there with a man that is NOT her husband. Neil gets out his cellphone and subtly records Sophia sucking a fratboys cock in a backroom.

The following morning "knock knock knock" on Sophia's door. Neil is there. She says, "What do you want?" He says, "We need to talk, I saw you at the club last night." She invites him to the backyard to talk about it out of earshot from her family. Neil holds up his phone and shows footage of her sucking a fratboys cock. Neil says, "This isn't right, and your husband is my best friend. If you don't tell him I will." Sophia says, "Please don't, I'll do anything, do you want money, it would destroy my family."

Neil offers to keep her secret in exchange for a weekly blowjob. That's blackmail.

On the other hand, Aiden is not of yet blackmailing Sophia. Aiden has basically said, I'm going to be kicking your sons ass, me and my gang. I don't care if you tell your husband. I don't care if you tell the police. I don't care if you tell the principal. My uncle is the best lawyer in the world and has got my back. Come to school with no bra on tomorrow or I'm going to beat your sons ass some more. This is Extortion, and not blackmail.

Blackmail is a specific subset of extortion. Aiden may blackmail Sophia in the future, but he is currently extorting her. If Aiden gets Sophia to do something on camera, then threatens to share that with her husband ect in the future, his extortion bleeds over into blackmail territory.

Hope this cleared things up for folks.
 
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Andre13

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Blackmail is a specific subset of extortion. Aiden may blackmail Sophia in the future, but he is currently extorting her. If Aiden gets Sophia to do something on camera, then threatens to share that with her husband ect in the future, his extortion bleeds over into blackmail territory.

Hope this cleared things up for folks.
And i still say that this game didnt need extortion, blackmail call it what you want.
 
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