VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

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Notretsam

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Usually, I would predict the next update but that is hard to do when you don't follow that route or care about it.

Instead, here is some things I would've done in AWAM instead.
  • I would've had Sophia be a college teacher instead of high school
  • I wouldn't have added the MR Bennett or Janitor scenes, I would've introduced them but stated that there would be a future college route DLC after the main novel is finished.
  • I would've delayed the good wife route till a DLC but had Liam and Sophia have sex more. Maybe have Ellie or Dylan catch them.
  • I would've gone with Straight instead of Filthy. The Lesbian and Good Wife routes will still be a thing. I would've had a Filthy score that determines how far Sophia goes in each route.
  • I wouldn't have an option to send Dylan and Zach to boarding school, therefore the Alicia stuff would have been part of the Straight/Lesbian routes instead of what they are now.
  • I would've had Dylan get a girlfriend but there is a choice for Dylan and girlfriend to play with Sophia.
  • I wouldn't have had the art class that was an Aiden task. Same with the last task where Sophia was at his hangout spot. I would've kept tasks in class for a few more tasks, and then added them in afterwards.
  • I would've had another two scenes where Sophia watches the maid masturbating on her bed, but the second time Sophia masturbates and the third time, Ellie, Dylan or Liam catches her.
  • I would've established that sometimes you're going to follow Ellie, Dylan or Liam around until they see Sophia again, this helps develop other story beats. Keeping some of the Dylan, Logan and Ellie-centric scenes that some have complained about but it would make more sense to be in AWAM.
  • During following Dylan we learn there is a bet between Sam and Dylan on who can get the furthest with Sophia. Which is more realistic than the previous twist that L&P reversed.
  • The Bikini show with Dylan and Sam is followed up with a bra and panties show in the house when Sam stays over.
  • We see when following Dylan around that Zach is telling him and Sam what is happening in class with Sophia doing tasks. This leads to a confrontation between Dylan and Aiden or Dylan and Sam are into it.
  • Julia catches Sophia with Sam in his bedroom. We see when following Ellie that Julia tells her.
  • I would've aged up the tutor boys and said in dialogue they were over 18, but they're sheltered because their father cheated on their mom and she is determined they don't become the same people. adds more plot to that part.
  • I wouldn't have Dylan taking Sophia out on a date, I would've had Dylan make dinner at home where no chance anyone could see them.
  • I wouldn't have done anything with MR Morello or his brother. I would set it up but would've left it to the Good Wife DLC after the main story finished.
  • I would've never had the museum guy's date arranged. I probably have them be suggestive to Sophia and Patricia, Sophia then answers some sexy questions that surprised Patricia.
  • I would've had a few night outs or ins with Patricia where Sophia let slip some of the things that had been happening. Maybe Ellie, Dylan or Liam overhear something one time
  • I would've had Dylan figure out the tutor boys are tricking Sophia and telling her, so she either stops tutoring them or goes along with it.

In my defence, I'm a developer and overthink novels lol
 
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Notretsam said:
Usually, I would predict the next update but that is hard to do when you don't follow that route or care about it.

Instead, here is some things I would've done in AWAM instead.
  • I would've had Sophia be a college teacher instead of high school
  • I wouldn't have added the MR Bennett or Janitor scenes, I would've introduced them but stated that there would be a future college route DLC after the main novel is finished.
  • I would've delayed the good wife route till a DLC but had Liam and Sophia have sex more. Maybe have Ellie or Dylan catch them.
  • I would've gone with Straight instead of Filthy. The Lesbian and Good Wife routes will still be a thing. I would've had a Filthy score that determines how far Sophia goes in each route.
  • I wouldn't have an option to send Dylan and Zach to boarding school, therefore the Alicia stuff would have been part of the Straight/Lesbian routes instead of what they are now.
  • I would've had Dylan get a girlfriend but there is a choice for Dylan and girlfriend to play with Sophia.
  • I wouldn't have had the art class that was an Aiden task. Same with the last task where Sophia was at his hangout spot. I would've kept tasks in class for a few more tasks, and then added them in afterwards.
  • I would've had another two scenes where Sophia watches the maid masturbating on her bed, but the second time Sophia masturbates and the third time, Ellie, Dylan or Liam catches her.
  • I would've established that sometimes you're going to follow Ellie, Dylan or Liam around until they see Sophia again, this helps develop other story beats. Keeping some of the Dylan, Logan and Ellie-centric scenes that some have complained about but it would make more sense to be in AWAM.
  • During following Dylan we learn there is a bet between Sam and Dylan on who can get the furthest with Sophia. Which is more realistic than the previous twist that L&P reversed.
  • The Bikini show with Dylan and Sam is followed up with a bra and panties show in the house when Sam stays over.
  • We see when following Dylan around that Zach is telling him and Sam what is happening in class with Sophia doing tasks. This leads to a confrontation between Dylan and Aiden or Dylan and Sam are into it.
  • Julia catches Sophia with Sam in his bedroom. We see when following Ellie that Julia tells her.
  • I would've aged up the tutor boys and said in dialogue they were over 18, but they're sheltered because their father cheated on their mom and she is determined they don't become the same people. adds more plot to that part.
  • I wouldn't have Dylan taking Sophia out on a date, I would've had Dylan make dinner at home where no chance anyone could see them.
  • I wouldn't have done anything with MR Morello or his brother. I would set it up but would've left it to the Good Wife DLC after the main story finished.
  • I would've never had the museum guy's date arranged. I probably have them be suggestive to Sophia and Patricia, Sophia then answers some sexy questions that surprised Patricia.
  • I would've had a few night outs or ins with Patricia where Sophia let slip some of the things that had been happening. Maybe Ellie, Dylan or Liam overhear something one time
  • I would've had Dylan figure out the tutor boys are tricking Sophia and telling her, so she either stops tutoring them or goes along with it.

In my defence, I'm a developer and overthink novels lol
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Having said all that, do you have anything developed with those points or similar? Or in any case do you plan to generate a VN with it?... certainly with your own characters and images.
 
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Notretsam said:
Usually, I would predict the next update but that is hard to do when you don't follow that route or care about it.

Instead, here is some things I would've done in AWAM instead.
  • I would've had Sophia be a college teacher instead of high school
  • I wouldn't have added the MR Bennett or Janitor scenes, I would've introduced them but stated that there would be a future college route DLC after the main novel is finished.
  • I would've delayed the good wife route till a DLC but had Liam and Sophia have sex more. Maybe have Ellie or Dylan catch them.
  • I would've gone with Straight instead of Filthy. The Lesbian and Good Wife routes will still be a thing. I would've had a Filthy score that determines how far Sophia goes in each route.
  • I wouldn't have an option to send Dylan and Zach to boarding school, therefore the Alicia stuff would have been part of the Straight/Lesbian routes instead of what they are now.
  • I would've had Dylan get a girlfriend but there is a choice for Dylan and girlfriend to play with Sophia.
  • I wouldn't have had the art class that was an Aiden task. Same with the last task where Sophia was at his hangout spot. I would've kept tasks in class for a few more tasks, and then added them in afterwards.
  • I would've had another two scenes where Sophia watches the maid masturbating on her bed, but the second time Sophia masturbates and the third time, Ellie, Dylan or Liam catches her.
  • I would've established that sometimes you're going to follow Ellie, Dylan or Liam around until they see Sophia again, this helps develop other story beats. Keeping some of the Dylan, Logan and Ellie-centric scenes that some have complained about but it would make more sense to be in AWAM.
  • During following Dylan we learn there is a bet between Sam and Dylan on who can get the furthest with Sophia. Which is more realistic than the previous twist that L&P reversed.
  • The Bikini show with Dylan and Sam is followed up with a bra and panties show in the house when Sam stays over.
  • We see when following Dylan around that Zach is telling him and Sam what is happening in class with Sophia doing tasks. This leads to a confrontation between Dylan and Aiden or Dylan and Sam are into it.
  • Julia catches Sophia with Sam in his bedroom. We see when following Ellie that Julia tells her.
  • I would've aged up the tutor boys and said in dialogue they were over 18, but they're sheltered because their father cheated on their mom and she is determined they don't become the same people. adds more plot to that part.
  • I wouldn't have Dylan taking Sophia out on a date, I would've had Dylan make dinner at home where no chance anyone could see them.
  • I wouldn't have done anything with MR Morello or his brother. I would set it up but would've left it to the Good Wife DLC after the main story finished.
  • I would've never had the museum guy's date arranged. I probably have them be suggestive to Sophia and Patricia, Sophia then answers some sexy questions that surprised Patricia.
  • I would've had a few night outs or ins with Patricia where Sophia let slip some of the things that had been happening. Maybe Ellie, Dylan or Liam overhear something one time
  • I would've had Dylan figure out the tutor boys are tricking Sophia and telling her, so she either stops tutoring them or goes along with it.

In my defence, I'm a developer and overthink novels lol
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Is anyone stopping you to create a VN like AWAM? Create it with a different title same characters like other have done.
 
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Notretsam said:
Usually, I would predict the next update but that is hard to do when you don't follow that route or care about it.

Instead, here is some things I would've done in AWAM instead.
  • I would've had Sophia be a college teacher instead of high school
  • I wouldn't have added the MR Bennett or Janitor scenes, I would've introduced them but stated that there would be a future college route DLC after the main novel is finished.
  • I would've delayed the good wife route till a DLC but had Liam and Sophia have sex more. Maybe have Ellie or Dylan catch them.
  • I would've gone with Straight instead of Filthy. The Lesbian and Good Wife routes will still be a thing. I would've had a Filthy score that determines how far Sophia goes in each route.
  • I wouldn't have an option to send Dylan and Zach to boarding school, therefore the Alicia stuff would have been part of the Straight/Lesbian routes instead of what they are now.
  • I would've had Dylan get a girlfriend but there is a choice for Dylan and girlfriend to play with Sophia.
  • I wouldn't have had the art class that was an Aiden task. Same with the last task where Sophia was at his hangout spot. I would've kept tasks in class for a few more tasks, and then added them in afterwards.
  • I would've had another two scenes where Sophia watches the maid masturbating on her bed, but the second time Sophia masturbates and the third time, Ellie, Dylan or Liam catches her.
  • I would've established that sometimes you're going to follow Ellie, Dylan or Liam around until they see Sophia again, this helps develop other story beats. Keeping some of the Dylan, Logan and Ellie-centric scenes that some have complained about but it would make more sense to be in AWAM.
  • During following Dylan we learn there is a bet between Sam and Dylan on who can get the furthest with Sophia. Which is more realistic than the previous twist that L&P reversed.
  • The Bikini show with Dylan and Sam is followed up with a bra and panties show in the house when Sam stays over.
  • We see when following Dylan around that Zach is telling him and Sam what is happening in class with Sophia doing tasks. This leads to a confrontation between Dylan and Aiden or Dylan and Sam are into it.
  • Julia catches Sophia with Sam in his bedroom. We see when following Ellie that Julia tells her.
  • I would've aged up the tutor boys and said in dialogue they were over 18, but they're sheltered because their father cheated on their mom and she is determined they don't become the same people. adds more plot to that part.
  • I wouldn't have Dylan taking Sophia out on a date, I would've had Dylan make dinner at home where no chance anyone could see them.
  • I wouldn't have done anything with MR Morello or his brother. I would set it up but would've left it to the Good Wife DLC after the main story finished.
  • I would've never had the museum guy's date arranged. I probably have them be suggestive to Sophia and Patricia, Sophia then answers some sexy questions that surprised Patricia.
  • I would've had a few night outs or ins with Patricia where Sophia let slip some of the things that had been happening. Maybe Ellie, Dylan or Liam overhear something one time
  • I would've had Dylan figure out the tutor boys are tricking Sophia and telling her, so she either stops tutoring them or goes along with it.

In my defence, I'm a developer and overthink novels lol
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I like most of those ideas. As you said, the scenarios make more sense and progresses the story logically.
 
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Notretsam said:
Usually, I would predict the next update but that is hard to do when you don't follow that route or care about it.

Instead, here is some things I would've done in AWAM instead.
  • I would've had Sophia be a college teacher instead of high school
  • I wouldn't have added the MR Bennett or Janitor scenes, I would've introduced them but stated that there would be a future college route DLC after the main novel is finished.
  • I would've delayed the good wife route till a DLC but had Liam and Sophia have sex more. Maybe have Ellie or Dylan catch them.
  • I would've gone with Straight instead of Filthy. The Lesbian and Good Wife routes will still be a thing. I would've had a Filthy score that determines how far Sophia goes in each route.
  • I wouldn't have an option to send Dylan and Zach to boarding school, therefore the Alicia stuff would have been part of the Straight/Lesbian routes instead of what they are now.
  • I would've had Dylan get a girlfriend but there is a choice for Dylan and girlfriend to play with Sophia.
  • I wouldn't have had the art class that was an Aiden task. Same with the last task where Sophia was at his hangout spot. I would've kept tasks in class for a few more tasks, and then added them in afterwards.
  • I would've had another two scenes where Sophia watches the maid masturbating on her bed, but the second time Sophia masturbates and the third time, Ellie, Dylan or Liam catches her.
  • I would've established that sometimes you're going to follow Ellie, Dylan or Liam around until they see Sophia again, this helps develop other story beats. Keeping some of the Dylan, Logan and Ellie-centric scenes that some have complained about but it would make more sense to be in AWAM.
  • During following Dylan we learn there is a bet between Sam and Dylan on who can get the furthest with Sophia. Which is more realistic than the previous twist that L&P reversed.
  • The Bikini show with Dylan and Sam is followed up with a bra and panties show in the house when Sam stays over.
  • We see when following Dylan around that Zach is telling him and Sam what is happening in class with Sophia doing tasks. This leads to a confrontation between Dylan and Aiden or Dylan and Sam are into it.
  • Julia catches Sophia with Sam in his bedroom. We see when following Ellie that Julia tells her.
  • I would've aged up the tutor boys and said in dialogue they were over 18, but they're sheltered because their father cheated on their mom and she is determined they don't become the same people. adds more plot to that part.
  • I wouldn't have Dylan taking Sophia out on a date, I would've had Dylan make dinner at home where no chance anyone could see them.
  • I wouldn't have done anything with MR Morello or his brother. I would set it up but would've left it to the Good Wife DLC after the main story finished.
  • I would've never had the museum guy's date arranged. I probably have them be suggestive to Sophia and Patricia, Sophia then answers some sexy questions that surprised Patricia.
  • I would've had a few night outs or ins with Patricia where Sophia let slip some of the things that had been happening. Maybe Ellie, Dylan or Liam overhear something one time
  • I would've had Dylan figure out the tutor boys are tricking Sophia and telling her, so she either stops tutoring them or goes along with it.

In my defence, I'm a developer and overthink novels lol
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The thing is L&P tries to incorporate realism into this game/project and pretty much the entire Part 2 has been a joke. There have been MOMENTS of sanity but they've mostly been buried between outlandish fantasies.

Hopefully someone uses the "themes" and "concepts" of this game and remakes it. It shouldn't be too hard now with the advent of AI and renders. And just about ANY developer would be an upgrade over L&P who is a bonafide throwback milkman/milkwoman
 
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dan_roger69 said:
Is anyone stopping you to create a VN like AWAM? Create it with a different title same characters like other have done.
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The current novel I'm working on stops me.

hmc15 said:
The thing is L&P tries to incorporate realism into this game/project and pretty much the entire Part 2 has been a joke. There have been MOMENTS of sanity but they've mostly been buried between outlandish fantasies.

Hopefully someone uses the "themes" and "concepts" of this game and remakes it. It shouldn't be too hard now with the advent of AI and renders. And just about ANY developer would be an upgrade over L&P who is a bonafide throwback milkman/milkwoman
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anyone who uses AI has no talent and is lazy, but I agree part 2 has been lacking in plot. however, they're been some really good scenes as well.

Parkernfc said:
Having said all that, do you have anything developed with those points or similar? Or in any case do you plan to generate a VN with it?... certainly with your own characters and images.
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I'm working on a novel but haven't decided what my next novel will be. However, my novel wouldn't be incest but it wouldn't be hard for someone to patch it.
 
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