armion82

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It's not a relationship point. If you choose not to go through with Patricia plan, you will get a -1 from her, which will remove the points needed for the club scene.
You lose that point only if you first accept the plan and second refuse to stay.
If you don't go with the plan at all you don't lose any point
 

DrDougDoesDOS

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I just never told Patricia about the thugs in the first place and the casino scene plays out just fine with the kissing.
I just cheated and used KinkyGal's Patch to add 100 points on every character I could, then just played a Good Wife Route and Filthy Wife Route from scratch with that. Made things way less complicated :LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL: I blame Dark Silver for creating Eric. Without him we wouldn't have needed cheats :cool:
 

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prediction for update
- final release after 10 days from last spoiler/teaser
- how many scenes/events are there in an update will determine his workload
- usually gives 1 teaser for an event.... may give more teaser if event takes more time ie it is big OR dont want to spoil other event give teaser of same previously given event
- in order to keep patreons in loop he gives next teaser in 7-10 days

So now predict this update date
Vers. 0.085:
Morning
1) Sophia/Ellie event - 8 days
2) Sophia's teacher storyline event (literature lesson, Aiden's 1st task) - 10 days
3) Little Emma event - 7 days
4) Unexpected surprise event - 8 days
Noon
1) Sophia/Dylan event No. 1 - 8 days
2 a) Sophia/Dylan event No. 2 - 10 days
2 b) Or: (if Sophia sends Dylan to a boarding school)Sophia/Dylan/Amber/Sam event - 10 days
teaser for 1 event only for now.... might take more time this update
my expectation is MID AUGUST release date
 
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I just cheated and used KinkyGal's Patch to add 100 points on every character I could, then just played a Good Wife Route and Filthy Wife Route from scratch with that. Made things way less complicated :LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL: I blame Dark Silver for creating Eric. Without him we wouldn't have needed cheats :cool:
Don't blame a pro for noobs mistake, Big bro is what made me love 3D games
 

DmSt4r69

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Oh About the choices:

Good wife route 1 : Pure loving wifes + debt free, Ellie is not dating logan, Send dylan to boarding school
Good wife route 2 : Pure loving wifes, debt to the casino mafia, Agree to aiden blackmail
Good wife route 3 : Lesbian cheating wife+ debt free, Ellie is not dating logan, Send dylan to boarding school
Good wife route 4 : Lesbian cheating wife, debt to the casino mafia, Agree to aiden blackmail

Filthy route 1 (non Lesbian) : Debt to the casino mafia, aiden blackmail, Mr.bennett, Tylerr, sam, dylan, museum boys
Filthy route 2 : Debt to the casino mafia, aiden blackmail, Mr.bennett, Tylerr, sam, dylan, museum boys, ellie, patricia
Filthy route 3 (non lesbian) : Debt free, Ellie is not dating logan, Aiden blackmail, Mr.bennett, tylerr, sam, dylan, museum boys
Filthy route 4 : Debt free, aiden blackmail, Mr.bennett, Tylerr, sam, dylan, museum boys, ellie, patricia
Filthy route 5 : Debt free, send dylan to boarding school, Mr.bennett, Tylerr, sam, dylan, museum boys, ellie, patricia

Filthy route 6: Debt to the casino mafia, Tyler, Sam, Museum boys, Ellie, Patricia, no Aiden Blackmail, send Dylan to boarding School, The Maid. Later Maybe(My guess and thinking): Zac, Alyssa, Amber/Dylan affair?

That overview came from KinyGal.The 6th Filthy route was my idea.
Do you have save of these routs? Just wanna try
 

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damn that dev making 6k a month still 1/2 upd in two month
I really find it funny when people complain that each update is half an update, or a quarter day, or whatever.

DAYS DON'T MATTER.

What's the bigger update, 1/2 a day with 300 renders and 5 scenes, or a full day with 200 renders and 3 scenes?

As the game gets more complex, with different branches being handled, more work needs to be done. This is L&P's biggest failing as a dev - he didn't understand how his production would need to change as the game got more complex, and is fixated on a "day" as the correct amount of content to release.

He's releasing the same amount of content as he did before, but each day has more packed into it, so each release is a fraction of a day.

Sure, he could drop some of the renders that are essentially duplicates of each other. Hopefully that wisdom will come with experience as a dev. Having multiple similar renders for a conversation adds to immersion, but is it worth the time it takes to do it, and the opportunity cost you pay for it when you don't do another scene because you spent too much time rendering Sophia tilting her neck?

He may be growing as a developer, and learning from his mistakes. 3 days after I posted that he was unwilling to learn from his mistakes here, he posted that he was changing how Patricia and Elly worked, to reduce the filthy points needed so Sophia wouldn't have to play with guys to go down the lesbian incest paths. He might actually be listening to his Patrons and changing things for the better. Maybe. Hope so.
 

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I really find it funny when people complain that each update is half an update, or a quarter day, or whatever.

DAYS DON'T MATTER.

What's the bigger update, 1/2 a day with 300 renders and 5 scenes, or a full day with 200 renders and 3 scenes?

As the game gets more complex, with different branches being handled, more work needs to be done. This is L&P's biggest failing as a dev - he didn't understand how his production would need to change as the game got more complex, and is fixated on a "day" as the correct amount of content to release.

He's releasing the same amount of content as he did before, but each day has more packed into it, so each release is a fraction of a day.

Sure, he could drop some of the renders that are essentially duplicates of each other. Hopefully that wisdom will come with experience as a dev. Having multiple similar renders for a conversation adds to immersion, but is it worth the time it takes to do it, and the opportunity cost you pay for it when you don't do another scene because you spent too much time rendering Sophia tilting her neck?

He may be growing as a developer, and learning from his mistakes. 3 days after I posted that he was unwilling to learn from his mistakes here, he posted that he was changing how Patricia and Elly worked, to reduce the filthy points needed so Sophia wouldn't have to play with guys to go down the lesbian incest paths. He might actually be listening to his Patrons and changing things for the better. Maybe. Hope so.
Actualy days matter.
Don't forget that the dev tell us several times/he even said it again this year/ that the game won't take 6-7 or even more years like some are claiming.According to him no more than 4 years,at worst 4 years and half.
So if he is realy going with half day in 1 and 1/2 months,you can easy count that 21 days will be 63 months.Add them to the 20 months so far.That is 7 years.
Not to mention that the first time the game was suppose to be done in 3 years.
 
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Actualy days matter.
Don't forget that the dev tell us several times/he even said it again this year/ that the game won't take 6-7 or even more years like some are claiming.According to him no more than 4 years,at worst 4 years and half.
So if he is realy going with half day in 1 and 1/2 months,you can easy count that 21 days will be 63 months.Add them to the 20 months so far.That is 7 years.
Not to mention that the first time the game was suppose to be done in 3 years.
If his income increases at the same rate as before (approximately 300$ in 2 monthes) then 4 monthes from now he will reach his next goal (6500$), and 10 monthes later he will reach his final goal (8000$). Let's hope this means faster updates...
 

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If his income increases at the same rate as before (approximately 300$ in 2 monthes) then 4 monthes from now he will reach his next goal (6500$), and 10 monthes later he will reach his final goal (8000$). Let's hope this means faster updates...
I am hoping for another thing.He said he has some problems in the family or something like that.If that part is taken care off I am sure the things will go smoother.Of course no way for him to finish the game in next 2 years no matter the money he is making.
 
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He's also going to have to rewrite a bunch of shit once his game gets flagged as an incest game, and who knows how long that will take. Even with an incest patch like a lot of games on this sub, it will still take quite some time to edit. I'm honestly surprised it's made it this far with patreons rules.
 
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