VN - Ren'Py - A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

Review for Game Version [v0.130]

Pros
+ CG Renders are top quality
+ Dialogue quality is fitting for appropriate scene
+ Character relationships and dynamics are good when in right situations
+ Branching scenes and stories. While in grand scheme of things right now it probably doesn't matter yet until we see the end. However I do appreciate the scenes you can only get if you travel X path.
+ Lots of game play time whether you play fast or slow.
+ Certain teasing and H-scenes are done very well.

Neutral
* A bit too much dialogue at times. While quality is good you might be reading a novel for the same scene.
* Not really a main focus/objective per se. More like a conjunction of many side stories that come together. Lesbian route. Dylan and Sam route. Aiden missions. Can feel all over the place and might lose interest in certain routes.
* Feel like the husband is thrown to the side. Not a character I am interested but Storywise should be more present besides H-scenes. Feels like the only time I encountered the husband was the occasional actual sex scenes with the MC other than that kind of appears here and there considering they are husband and wife.

Cons
- Such a slow burn. Slow burns aren't inherently bad or good. However in the case of A Wife and Mother it is bad since it is tediously slow to get any action and meaningful value out of the story. Such a slow burning story considering all the routes and characters you interact with.
- So much teasing. Like galore teasing. With how long the game is this will not be rewarding for people who want to look for H-Scenes especially its with characters you don't care about. The H-Scenes we want is a tease fest. The ones we care the least about we get something but not satisfying.
- Sophia a character herself is complex and complicated for the story alone and doesn't feel genuine. Oh I want to do this with you but only a little bit. Oh im so horny but don't want to do anything about it even though I can. Oh im so into it but will only kiss you. and only kiss you. Like at this point we are just dragging it.
- Quite stunned at a game this big and popular that there isn't a gallery. Especially the different scenes for different path. Kind of bizarre considering getting these scenes might be the only difference of several choices then you might be locked out of that unless you go back redo a different path. Even if they may be teasing scenes mostly and a few sex scenes there should be a gallery regardless. No one wants to hoard a bunch of saves or memorize certain points in the game to get certain scenes.
- The story is not really rewarding as of now. Just small progressions here and there. Depending on your choices too you may hit the end of updates quicker making your gameplay feel good or bad. You play hoping you actually get something then you realize dang there isn't nothing at the end yet for this route or character yet.

Conclusion
This game is definitely not for everyone. Really I can only explain this game is an author who takes there time writing a really long erotic novel as they go. Kind of piecing things here and their that might make sense in the grand scheme of things however forgot to interject some H-scenes and got the pacing wrong. While I did enjoy certain routes and character relationships I feel as if of right now there isn't much to be rewarded on playing. It can be described as if the game was a long subway sandwich with only a tiny bit of delicious meat at the other end of the bread. We are still only in the beginning of eating the bread before we actually get to the meat where we all hope the game will finally lead to however whether the meat even exist and how long until we get there is a question of time. This game has been in development for a very long time. After awhile its just not worth downloading since the progression is slow. I played the original RPGM version of this game when it first came out and that was about 4 years ago. Im not sure how long you are willing to wait for a game like this. Maybe a year or 2 ago this might be a 4 or 3 star. Average or good. However in this current state and knowing the update patterns I find the game to not be in a good state anymore.

I only include the development progress in my reviews if it has been a significant time which it has been in this case. We need to consider the time of development and pacing of these updates. Not many are willingly to standby and watch a game slowly make its way to the finish line. We could be waiting another 4 years and more. What we have here is a game with hope and maybe potential but that's only because many of us have been on the ride for so long. Some have already hopped out and even me. The ones that remain are likely new comers and hopeful people who have stayed watching development for a long time.

In this current state I cannot recommend this game to anyone. If you plan to play. Play for not H-scenes but for what it has to offer. Don't expect to get your bonkers blown up but expect a slow burning story with a complicated MC that may or may not make sense at times in the story. There are some shining pieces in this game but not enough of them comes around.

It's Not a game Anymore I'TS a BOOK ! Too much Dialogue. I usually like reading but in this game it's really too much

If you take the time to read everyline You will never see action.

At the end i start too spamclick cause i was boring.

But Good Graphisme and complete storie i have too admit.

One of the main probleme for me it's all the cutscene with the blackscreen and the ambiance song like "the door opening"or "the car starting" sometimes i thinks there are not necessary

This Game is just amazing.
The art just look fantastic and the story is really good and well written.
The plot is graduating not too fast and the people of the story act comprehensible.
The main person of the game is one of the hottest I've ever seen.
With this game a new hight bar has been raised.

It is a good game but for the long term it is not something that I would recommend to everyone, especially to people who want some action with Sophia in a period of 20 minutes since they will get frustrated as they will see the protagonist live her life day to day

firstly, sorry for my bad english.
give this game 1 star. man is not mentally stable. ridiculous, funny.
If you want to see penetration, watch porn or there are games that reach penetration immediately, play them. sex and eroticism exist in every line, every moment of this game. This game is full of lust and passion.
First time gamer shouldn't take the negative reviews seriously, it's the best game of all time.

This review is based on v0.130 of the game.

GOOD:

• I appreciate the slow build-up of corruption of the MC's in games. I do not like games where sex scenes are introduced after 5 minutes of game play, it is more intriguing when you participate in the slow fall of the MC towards pleasure of sex. There is however a limit to this, which triggers one of the cons
• I do like the sexual tension created between the MC and some of the side characters. An exciting game should not present "easy sex", it is the story and a well presented context that make a porn game exciting. Kudos to the developer for the effort spent in making sure this is always present

OK:

• Renders quality is good but I do not find it excellent. It was likely high quality when the game started 4 years ago, but methods, tools, techniques evolve and I find that this game is not anymore presenting top quality of renders. I do believe that the gap with other new games is increasing in this respect and I have the feeling that this game won't be able to keep up with the evolving state of the art, yet keeping good quality
• It's appreciated the effort spent in having the scoring system reported at every significant decision affecting it, but I would rather prefer having to guess which decision would increase the score of a certain "path" rather than having it clearly shown

BAD:

• I'm seriously confused about the "Good Wife" path. This is a porn game, which should try to trigger the interest of the player by presenting suggestive scenarios. How can a game, where a woman has successful sex with her husband, be interesting?
• The game does not present an interesting stats system. You are not able to develop specific stats of the MC, you simply decide whether she is a good wife or a filthy character. Which is basically not a decision; based on the previous point, where is the interest in choosing to keep her a good wife? This, in my view, makes the decision making process in the game quite irrelevant and you are only actively making very few critical decisions in the game
• The branching system is not well elaborated. There are so many branches but they are not well developed. So what happens is that for entire solar years you are not getting any interactions with some of the side characters; I don't personally even remember the name of certain characters and I'm sure I will need some time to realize who these guys are when they will finally be active again. The branching system is not really "branching" anything, you are just deciding how many side stories you will bring in parallel, which only makes the story less readable and enjoyable
• I don't appreciate having so many events not actually bringing any significant development to the story. It's task of a good writer making sure that the reader is fully entertained with the events presented in the game. I often feel like clicking without even reading, some events are simply boring and not providing any good insight about the story or about the characters which we didn't already know. Thanks God Tolkien didn't really describe every single step of Frodo and Sam towards Mordor, LOTR would've been 10000 pages long

After some time, despite the actually slow pace of the updates, the already good impression of this game is even better than the beginning. The story deals with issues such as female corruption and, above all, incest, in a "realistic" way. I play Dylan's route and the fact that a boy his age has a sexual interest in his mother, a taboo and hot topic as more could not be, after all "there is". Merit is the other side of the coin of slowness: progression. Dylan has shown a maturation of character and personality thanks to the good progression of the story and the fact that sooner or later he ends up in bed with his mother (as it seems quite obvious to you) is something presented in such a way that you have the illusion that it can happen for real in real life. The opposite of certain incest "shooter" games where after three minutes mothers and children fuck like crazy. Rendering and setting could be less quality, in my personal opinion, but obviously they are the best.

I'd like to be able to give this 5 stars, but its more like an nc-17 game . The graphics are outstanding. The models are great, renders are awesome. The story is a good one. The dev he said he's doing a slow burn, which I am ok with. But there are so many missed opportunities to give us something to see.
The game play can be very frustrating, though the ingame walk through now helps. But there are so many scenes that are dependent on seemingly random and insignificant choices earlier in the game. Its so long with so little action that going back to start over and redo those decisions - ugh, its just not worth it. Then if you do to get that special scene, nothing happens anyway. Even when there is a sex scene, we see more dick than anything else.
The dev can do his slow burn. But there are opportunities to give us plenty to look at in the story as it is now (shower scenes, the sybian scene, the few sex scenes that exist). I'd love to give this a 5-star, but honestly I cannot recommend it.

Render and pose quality are pretty good, but your skip button is going to get a serious workout with this game. So. Much. Text.

Not recommended if you just want to jerk off, even skipping every bit of text leaves minutes between every titillating scene.

This poor rating is more of an indictment of the development process than the game itself. I truly respect L&P as a businessman, but the consumer should understand that getting hooked on this game will be an awful experience. (v.0.130)

Best case, two updates a year with 6-8 scenes that contain partial nudity and awkward writing. Renders are nice, and models are attractive, but it's a moot point when the game lacks quality animations and sexual scenes.

If you are susceptible to getting attached to a game and will constantly check the forums in hopes of an update, it would be in your best interest to avoid this title. For everyone else, playing the game after a couple of updates (a year or so) can be worth your time if you are a fan of the fetishes this game provides.

just finished playing the available scenarios in v.0.130. Very erotic. I love how the story is building up. Fantastic attention to detail. One of the best erotic story telling games to date. To date, it has grown to epic novel proportions. Did not much enjoy the Liam storyline, too vanilla for my taste. Love all the other scenarios. Kudos for a job well done to Lust&Passion . Looking forward to the next update. This dev definitely deserves the Patreon support he is getting.

The Aiden tasks and the nursing job scenes are my favorite.

The fat that the lesbian route is only `possible after allowing like 50 creep events, inlcuding gropings, harrassment, and so on, well. Maybe the game logic is broken.

How in the world allopwing some creep to grope your daughter will make a lesbian route eaiser? What person looking for a lesbian route would tolerate this bullshit?
Maybe there is some rework in the route system, cause 50 creep events to allow 1 lesbian event, is not worth it, really.

Another thing killing the game is the wife face. 80% of the renders, maybe more she has this deppressed face, its really uncomfortable looking at her. If you add the insane amount of dicks being thrown at you from all angles, it makes the game overall experience horrendous.

Not renders, nor animations compensate for it, cause they are really average.

Maybe with the choice logic fixed, it will be a little better cause this in unbearable.

45 minutesa go i rated it 1. I finished playing it and i goota give one extra star, cause desptie the fact that after 13 or so playable days there is still no sex, i got to praise the length of the """lesbian sex"""" scenes, which is something im complaing about other games. I woulodnt be fair not rewarding it. So, maybe in the future, in 2030, the woman who is being teased and denied for 1 week will actualyl act on her feelings and stop stalling.

Version: v0.130

Review:
I don't know why this game got so many positively high ratings and likes. Maybe it's the fact that I've deceived a lot of people that it would be an extremely promising game or because maybe they liked the plot and graphics. If it's because of the story, why does a porn game have so much writing and not content? wouldn't it be easier to buy a novel/romance book to read?

PROS:
- The game's plot is very professional
- The MC doesn't act like a slut or stupid
- Good graphics

CONS:
- It's not necessarily a porn game but something about romance and erotic
- There is not enough sexual content (fucking blueballs)
- Everything happens very slowly and slow
- 5.35GB of download size for nothing lewd content

History:
As I said, the game's story writing is good, but it would also be much better to buy a book to read. Sophia is a woman with two children and also a wife. I've seen games similar to this one and I know what a disappointment it was, but suddenly, this game that is 4 years old pleased its readership.
Sophia is a woman and mother, the attitudes the player chooses won't let her be a slut overnight, the game corrupts it very slowly making the player tired and bored if you want to fap.
Gameplay:
The gameplay looks silly and I'll explain why. Do you play a female protagonist, and does the game give you the option of being a good wife? Choose to be a good wife or choose to corrupt her or even increase the affection of a certain character or lesbian stat. But why is it so silly? This is a porn game, right? or am I wrong? why would I want to be a ''good wife''? Why would I choose not to see content? if you like a good story and don't like nasty content, welcome.
Graphics & Sexual Content:
Graphics are good, renderings are good, but where is the sexual content? will you spend more than 1 hour reading the entire plot and then see two quick scenes? no fucking way... I don't even need to explain...

Why I did gave 1 star?
Sorry, but I can't see any reason to praise this game. I like games that have a constructive relationship, but this game the relationship is constructive too. The fact is that you'll stay for hours and hours and in the end it's just a reading game, a porn game where you just read the story, where you don't see more explicit content and just keep your hand on your dick thinking how disappointing it was to have wasted his time. The developer started writing his story but was unable to reduce or minimize it, so the game gives you every detail of what's going on, but it's been 4 years. It's okay that if this game is ever completed, it will be one of the greatest games that have excellent relationship building and character corruption (or not), but that's just speculation, so it's not sure whether this game will work or not.
If you like reading, looking for a good story with good writing, this game is for you. But do you happen to be looking for a nasty game, where there's plenty of sexual content you can enjoy, stay away from that game.

Nice game but very slow development in the storyline.
Too many sidelines. When you expect some progress in the story and it is not happening.
There are so many missed opportunities.
What happened with the guys at the museum?
When can we see some sex with Sophia's sister?
Any progress with the guys from the club?

the game is fine. Nothing special.

pros: great art and... that's about it.

cons: really slow development for a threadbare plot and a distinct lack of direction.
too many character but none have had any significant progress in route in the last year or two.

Basically, wait until the game is "completed" and play it. The game as it is, is not memorable or interesting

This is my review for v0.130 :

Been playing this game since 2018 and it has kept me hooked until now despite a few shortcomings. The render qualities have definitely improved over time and the effort that the creator puts in to creating realistic environments is evident.
The thing that works for this game is that the MC - Sophia Parker is a hot middle aged married woman who unlike other games does not jump into having sex with whoever she meets but it focuses on slow build up/seduction of the MC up until she loses her inhibitions and then jumps into having sex with whoever she has picked up the FILTHY points. This would have worked for me if there were just 3 to 4 or max 5 people waiting to seduce the MC. At present the people waiting to have sex with Sophia are - her son, daughter, son's friend, daughters friend, her sister, brother in law, her couple of friends, 2 to 3 students, a teacher, a janitor, a mafia don's brother to name a few. In order to accommodate so many characters, the author has created innumerable branches to the story. And since our MC needs to be seduced, each character goes through separate events where the MC gets drawn towards the mentioned characters.
This has resulted in the game still being in the seduction stage since 4 years of development. The development cycle has also slowed down over time with the last update taking 6 months for a 1/3rd playable day. So it is quite possible that if the son has made significant progress with the MC in an update during the day and next expected event with the son is in the morning next day, we will not be seeing an update for the son for the next 1.5 years. This causes the interest to fade away from the character.
Lastly, there have only been 2 short sex scenes with the husband in the Good wife route in the 4 years of development and with a sex scene outside marriage nowhere in sight for the next few years, I personally do have a reservation if the creator is capable to pull off a great sex scene after years of corruption. That only time will tell.
To summarize :
Pros:
Beautiful married MC who doesn't act like a whore
Wonderful renders
Attention to detail in the renders
Cons:
Too many branches and side characters
No Explicit scenes in the Filthy route
Slow development cycle

Despite of some of the mentioned shortcomings, I do still look forward to the next release with the same enthusiasm, maybe because it caters to my fantasy of a decent married woman getting gradually corrupted.

5 stars graphics and 3d models
4 stars story and plot
3 stars too many characters and text reading
2 stars OVERALL
1 star not honest with fans said he will join some1 to help him still not
0 stars updates and delay prolonged to nowhere to no reason

The game has a great concept and nice artwork but it is beyond slow. You will find more enjoyment watching paint dry vs waiting for updates to come out. The best advice I can give is to wait about 5 years and then check back . This will allow a sufficient amount of time to pass to actually move the story forward. Lots of other developers deliver quality updates so spend your money with them and hard pass on financially supporting this one.

BEST GAME EVER, the character build up, development, and events are done with class. No other game has the ability to create that connection between you and the main character. despite the fact that updates take longer than any other game in development, the creator always delivers a deeper connection.

I like this game, I like Sophias character a lot, but so much waiting. IM so TIRED of it by now. Theres a certain exhaustion setting in. Its been 4 years now, 4 long years! and theres just one half-ass sex scene between liam and sophia, and that too isnt very well animated. We havent even got to see Sophia's vagina - IN 4 years!
Just cancel it already instead of your nevenending tease and blueballing

I was a doner