VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

If I was Liam Sophia would not be in this situation,horny all the time.Maybe exhausted but definitely not horny.
The risk of consanguinity will always be there whether Sophia does it with a man or a woman.
Maybe with less risk involving a woman as most men would be happy to have a 3 some with another woman.

To be fair to Liam, that's Sophia's decision. On the GW route she's not horny all the time, they even have sex after the trip to the casino.

 

[Old Dog]

I replayed the filthy route and refused Aiden's 2nd task to lift up dress and show panties.
Normal conversation with principal about taking Dylan out of school and also Zac.
Then Dylan said this
Why didn't Sophia just send Dylan to Sam's school in the first place and also why didn't this come up before with the boarding school option?
Maybe connected to the "comfortable solution" concerning Aiden?

 

[M4s73rCh13f]

Do you know anything about possible game developments?

 

[Old Dog]

Do you know anything about possible game developments?

What we know/guessed/made up are all posted here in the AWAM forums.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I replayed the filthy route and refused Aiden's 2nd task to lift up dress and show panties.
Normal conversation with principal about taking Dylan out of school and also Zac.
Then Dylan said this View attachment 612860
Why didn't Sophia just send Dylan to Sam's school in the first place and also why didn't this come up before with the boarding school option?
Maybe connected to the "comfortable solution" concerning Aiden?

I always just assumed his grades weren't good enough. It's why Carl has to wave the chequebook around to get Dylan into the boarding school. Does Sam go to the same school as Julia and Ellie?

 

[Old Dog]

I always just assumed his grades weren't good enough. It's why Carl has to wave the chequebook around to get Dylan into the boarding school. Does Sam go to the same school as Julia and Ellie?

Interesting thought that Carl could help Dylan.
Does Sam go to the same school as Julia and Ellie?I don't know I would need to check.I will get back to you on that

 

[mahmouedsamy]

3rd time and same hhhhhh llol

 

[Viressa]

I agree with you on Sophia not being consistent/logic and rationality with the event concerning her family and I would also put Bennet and Aiden in there as well.I don't care how much Sophia says that she loves her children it is just too much for a supposedly strong willed intelligent woman/wife.

The whole game doesn't make much sense tbh, the writer makes Sophia far, far too reluctant. Everything about her internal narration and dialogue says that she's a total prude who's 100% loyal to her husband and she'd never in a million years do any of this stuff, and doing the filthy route options doesn't really change this. The filthy route options are all entirely out of character. For a corruption story, you need a protagonist who starts out tempted and curious, but reluctant, and quickly or slowly that reluctance is worn away.

My headcanon is that Sophia's possessed by a demon that occasionally mind-controls her into doing stuff against her will. You actually play as the demon, rather than as Sophia herself.

 

[Alley_Cat]

The whole game doesn't make much sense tbh, the writer makes Sophia far, far too reluctant. Everything about her internal narration and dialogue says that she's a total prude who's 100% loyal to her husband and she'd never in a million years do any of this stuff, and doing the filthy route options doesn't really change this. The filthy route options are all entirely out of character. For a corruption story, you need a protagonist who starts out tempted and curious, but reluctant, and quickly or slowly that reluctance is worn away.

My headcanon is that Sophia's possessed by a demon that occasionally mind-controls her into doing stuff against her will. You actually play as the demon, rather than as Sophia herself.

Another reason I like the GW/Lesbian route - most of the Filthy route options make no sense to me. I can understand some harmless flirting with the movers, the museum boys or the college boys, and making out and groping with women. I suspend disbelief with Ellie and Patricia mainly because that's where the content is at the moment.

But I disagree that she's a prude. She can be quite adventurous, she just needs to be in a situation where it's appropriate to be so. If Liam were to suggest a threesome, even with another man (like is hinted by the gangbang quote) it might take some coaxing, but I suspect she'd go for it (I just don't think L&P would be up for writing it).

Ellie only gets as far as she does after stating that Christine and her mom shower together, and kissing after Sophia kisses Patricia. And Sophia only kisses Patricia because they're pretending not to be relatives, and the college boys state two women kissing is hot, and give examples.

She has fantasies, she just needs to feel comfortable acting them out.

Oh, and I might be wrong about Carl waving the chequebook around to get Dylan into the boarding school. It's Ellie's school he supports financially, he just happens to be a friend of the headmaster of the boarding school. But I'll keep checking

 

[Old Dog]

Another reason I like the GW/Lesbian route - most of the Filthy route options make no sense to me. I can understand some harmless flirting with the movers, the museum boys or the college boys, and making out and groping with women. I suspend disbelief with Ellie and Patricia mainly because that's where the content is at the moment.

But I disagree that she's a prude. She can be quite adventurous, she just needs to be in a situation where it's appropriate to be so. If Liam were to suggest a threesome, even with another man (like is hinted by the gangbang quote) it might take some coaxing, but I suspect she'd go for it (I just don't think L&P would be up for writing it).

Ellie only gets as far as she does after stating that Christine and her mom shower together, and kissing after Sophia kisses Patricia. And Sophia only kisses Patricia because they're pretending not to be relatives, and the college boys state two women kissing is hot, and give examples.

She has fantasies, she just needs to feel comfortable acting them out.

Oh, and I might be wrong about Carl waving the chequebook around to get Dylan into the boarding school. It's Ellie's school he supports financially, he just happens to be a friend of the headmaster of the boarding school. But I'll keep checking

Sophia being a prude.She got pregnant and married at a youngish age,around 19yrs old,and her values could of come from seeing what her parents marriage was like.
I can also see Sophia being adventurous,wimen like the attention,who doesn't, and being flirtatious with people makes her feel wanted,desired and loved.
I do think that Sophia will also do almost anything for Liam,he is her college sweet heart and she has said on many occasions that she loves Liam very much.
She has fantasies, she just needs to feel comfortable acting them out.
Everybody has fantasies,some will get carried out and other ones will not but as Alley_Cat said "Sophia will need to feel comfortable acting them out",hence why I think a school gang is out the window.
I stare at disbelief with the Aiden/Bennet story.I don't care how much a mother loves her son this route is out there,living on mars.
So I do agree with what Alley_Cat has written.
I think Carl helped with finding the boarding school but not for paying for it as I think Sophia wants to ask him for cash to pay off the casino debt.

 

[phill_leotardo]

As a huge fan of this game, im sorry I have to say, this update was trash

WELL at least he did release an update and didnt give up on the game, take ICSTOR for example

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sophia being a prude.She got pregnant and married at a youngish age,around 19yrs old,and her values could of come from seeing what her parents marriage was like.
I can also see Sophia being adventurous,wimen like the attention,who doesn't, and being flirtatious with people makes her feel wanted,desired and loved.
I do think that Sophia will also do almost anything for Liam,he is her college sweet heart and she has said on many occasions that she loves Liam very much.
She has fantasies, she just needs to feel comfortable acting them out.
Everybody has fantasies,some get will get carried out and other ones will not but as Alley_Cat said "Sophia will need to feel comfortable acting them out",hence why I think a school gang is out the window.
I stare at disbelief with the Aiden/Bennet story.I don't care how much a mother loves her son this route is out there,living on mars.

Well, personally I just would have grounded Dylan until his grades improved. Bennett dealt with. If Dylan wants to go to college he's going to have to put in the effort to keep his grades up. With Aiden hopefully Dylan has learnt not to butt in without adequate backup.

Meanwhile, I discovered something curious while I was looking for evidence of what I said about the boarding school, and discovered that there's a significant difference in the phone call to Alyssa depending on if you send Dylan and Zac to the boarding school or not. It appears you may not get the Alyssa event next update if you send Dylan to the boarding school.

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[Old Dog]

Well, personally I just would have grounded Dylan until his grades improved. Bennett dealt with. If Dylan wants to go to college he's going to have to put in the effort to keep his grades up. With Aiden hopefully Dylan has learnt not to butt in without adequate backup.

Meanwhile, I discovered something curious while I was looking for evidence of what I said about the boarding school, and discovered that there's a significant difference in the phone call to Alyssa depending on if you send Dylan and Zac to the boarding school or not. It appears you may not get the Alyssa event next update if you send Dylan to the boarding school.

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This didn't happen in this update did it?
I too find it strange that sending Dylan away to boarding school could kill off the Alyssa route,will Zac go to the same boarding school as Dylan or another one.Also what will happens to the rest of Sophia's students even if Dylan/Zac are taken out of school?Aiden could still beat up the students and continue the blackmail.
I guess sending Dylan away stops the conversation with Alyssa about her mysterious man,so it could be Zac after all.
I think it is harsh though because if I remember right it was only supposed to open a small side event

 

[Alley_Cat]

This didn't happen in this update did it?
I too find it strange that sending Dylan away to boarding school could kill off the Alyssa route,will Zac go to the same boarding school as Dylan or another one.Also what will happens to the rest of Sophia's students even if Dylan/Zac are taken out of school?Aiden could still beat up the students and continue the blackmail.

The phone call with Alyssa would have been 0.085.

Well we find out that not setting Emma up with Dylan kills off her route, so it wouldn't be the first time that making a decision has unexpected consequences down the road.

But this is entirely why my OTP with Sophia is nebulous - we discover new things each update

 

[Old Dog]

The phone call with Alyssa would have been 0.085.

Well we find out that not setting Emma up with Dylan kills off her route, so it wouldn't be the first time that making a decision has unexpected consequences down the road.

But this is entirely why my OTP with Sophia is nebulous - we discover new things each update

True but the pool event is not in the next update so we could have to wait for maybe 2 more updates to find out,maybe more,for this event to continue.

 

[lockerxx]

why i feel the dylan emma could not work we got this vs

this

sophie still wins
young boys only interest in the size...

 

[Viressa]

The phone call with Alyssa would have been 0.085.

Well we find out that not setting Emma up with Dylan kills off her route, so it wouldn't be the first time that making a decision has unexpected consequences down the road.

But this is entirely why my OTP with Sophia is nebulous - we discover new things each update

That's another thing I dislike about this game: It pretends to have a lot of different routes but there's really only ever two choices, Yes and No. And you gotta either say Yes to everything, or you get arbitrarily locked out of shit you want to see later. So you don't actually get to pick and choose which fetishes you indulge in and which you don't. Why even have multiple routes if you're gonna do this?

 

[Mirnation]

The whole game doesn't make much sense tbh, the writer makes Sophia far, far too reluctant. Everything about her internal narration and dialogue says that she's a total prude who's 100% loyal to her husband and she'd never in a million years do any of this stuff, and doing the filthy route options doesn't really change this. The filthy route options are all entirely out of character. For a corruption story, you need a protagonist who starts out tempted and curious, but reluctant, and quickly or slowly that reluctance is worn away.

My headcanon is that Sophia's possessed by a demon that occasionally mind-controls her into doing stuff against her will. You actually play as the demon, rather than as Sophia herself.

Bang on. The filthy route is just a cheap facade to lure people who want some action ( like me). You're right about how her reluctance never goes away and she's back to being a prude, although its been 3 years and the development is negligible. The dev just keeps creating spicy situations in every update to tease us but never capitalizes on it. At this rate, 2040 will be my guess for any extra marital action( maybe).

 

[a-lex]

are you fucking serious? playing this game about 3 hours and no sex scene? bullshit

 

[Old Dog]

why i feel the dylan emma is could not work we got this vs
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young boys only interest in the size...

lol that is just cruel