VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[nexer]

That depends on the measuring standards, to what have they've done, and with whom did it first perhaps?. Then again, it can't be much of a competition since it's obvious and expected that Sophia would behave differently with another woman than with another man, her behaviors should differentiate because one is her daughter and one her son, the relationship is not the same.

Also, depending on the player's choices some things may happen with her son and not with her daughter and vice versa because it's all up to the player.

Please, play the shower scenes, both, day17, Alley_Cat courtesy. Pure gold. And a french kiss isn't a normal mother-daughter relationship.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Maybe you are right, but we have 2 paths Ellie-Sophia and Dylan-Sophia. And I think with Ellie it's more advanced.
Everybody talk about Dylan-Sophia, nothing/nobody about Ellie-Sophia

Oh hell yeah, it's way more advanced with Sophia and Ellie. Sophia's still very reluctant to even have Dylan in her room when she's getting dressed even though, on my playthrough, she's let him see her tits and helped out with his "problem" at the beach, but with Ellie she's had a steamy, naked make-out session with her in the shower and before that Ellie had hugged her and kissed her neck.

I'll always talk about Sophia/Ellie because that kiss was some seriously hot shit and I don't mind one bit if they have sex before Sophia has sex with Dylan. I absolutely love how Ellie's getting in touch with her lesbian side because she's even thinking about her Aunt Patricia in that way too. The 0.100 update promises a Sophia/Ellie scene so I'm hoping for more raunchy stuff and maybe even some pussy play.

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Sophia's jealousy.I am so looking forward to the cascade of emotions flowing from Sophia concerning Dylan.What will Sophia do to get Dylan's attention

Indeed I wonder about that too and also the emotions and reactions and how she'll approach it, as much as I want to see what she'll do to get Dylan's attention I'm interested about what she'll do and say to either Amber or Dylan and if her jealousy would be apparent.

If you send Dylan away it opens up a small storyline so I guess we will have to wait and see what happens

Yeah, I know, that's why I have saved the file to see that storyline and where does it go regarding Sophia & Dylan though too bad we don't have any word as of yet from L&P if there's going to be more, or do we have any word about that potential storyline?

Please, play the shower scenes, both, day17, Alley_Cat courtesy. Pure gold. And a french kiss isn't a normal mother-daughter relationship.

Haha, I've seen the images from Farrah's posts before, though I'm sorry, I'm not into lesbian stuff that's why I don't play it but I know about it courtesy from farrah and yes, neither Sophia & Dylan nor Sophia & Ellie are normal mother and her children relationships, they're a lot closer than with anyone else.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Also, depending on the player's choices some things may happen with her son and not with her daughter and vice versa because it's all up to the player.

Yeah, this is the thing, because I didn't get that scene with Amber and Sam at the pool because that's not the route I'm on. I've had Sophia avoid all interactions with Sam because the only dick I want her to have is Dylan's. My playthrough has been focused solely on advancing the incest and lesbian interactions, so my view of how this game is playing out in certain areas is definitely going to be different from others.

I believe it's jealousy "a bit" . It's not "just her being a mother", because with Ellie, Sophia advised her to use protection. I did't see nothing else. Don't forger Logan is in his 35.

Mothers are often more protective of their sons and encouraging to their daughters, so giving Ellie advice about protection and trying to shield her son from the advances of an older woman are perfectly reasonable and not inconsistent.

 

[lockerxx]

I honestly don't know nor care what he likes, you could say that but then there's Ellie who is younger and just as hot, probably that's why Sophia is trying to hook up Ellie with him. Whereas Dylan likes older or matured women more.

Maybe what happened at the pool was prone?...

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Love Sophia's jealousy though hehe. I wonder if L&P will put more about it if chosen to send Dylan to the boarding school and how Sophia would react.

L&P is a strange dude he is always super mistery in his answers but likes to telegram everything .

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Yeah, this is the thing, because I didn't get that scene with Amber and Sam at the pool because that's not the route I'm on. I've had Sophia avoid all interactions with Sam because the only dick I want her to have is Dylan's. My playthrough has been focused solely on advancing the incest and lesbian interactions, so my view of how this game is playing out in certain areas is definitely going to be different from others.

So is mine but not in a lesbian way but the same about Sophia & Dylan, advancing the incest between Mother & Son and avoid the same interactions with Amber's son. While I'm not into lesbian stuff at all and I never will, I'm still glad that there's also incest between Sophia & Ellie, farrah knows how in favor I am of that path even though I don't play it myself but because of the incest.

We've talked about that there can't be any real competition between them because they're both Sophia's children and she loves them equally, the differences lie in what the player chooses to do but...as for progress? Dylan has been feeling, kissing, touching, and sharing a personal time like wanking with her, some before Ellie's some eventually after Ellie depending the days but earlier than others unrelated to Sophia.

Indeed it will be definitely different from others, and with the option of ending storylines from now on starting with Emma's or Dylan's...the story seems that it's going to get more tailored to a player's more preferred interests. Some may have already finished Dylan's Storyline, I have already finished Emma's storyline, and eventually, some might end Alyssa's if they want to or not but the story could become more specific to a player's tastes.

 

[Taker Fan]

I honestly don't know nor care what he likes, you could say that but then there's Ellie who is younger and just as hot, probably that's why Sophia is trying to hook up Ellie with him. Whereas Dylan likes older or matured women more.

Maybe what happened at the pool was prone?...

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Love Sophia's jealousy though hehe. I wonder if L&P will put more about it if chosen to send Dylan to the boarding school and how Sophia would react.

Sophia jealous? Come on, that was a normal mother reaction. Even if you're a fan of Sophia and Dylan, you shouldn't interpret so much into that.

 

[nexer]

A kingdom for what they are talking

 

[nexer]

Sophia jealous? Come on, that was a normal mother reaction. Even if you're a fan of Sophia and Dylan, you shouldn't interpret so much into that.

. Amber is an old friend. Normally, if Amber had been a new friend, the reaction of Sophia could be normal. But, as an old friend, Sophia might have let Amber talk to Dylan. Looks like Sophia's thinking about something related to sex. Why?
Her reaction, "a bit" too much

 

[armion82]

I honestly don't know nor care what he likes, you could say that but then there's Ellie who is younger and just as hot, probably that's why Sophia is trying to hook up Ellie with him. Whereas Dylan likes older or matured women more.

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Love Sophia's jealousy though hehe. I wonder if L&P will put more about it if chosen to send Dylan to the boarding school and how Sophia would react.

Probably Sam likes only a specific type.Dylan on the other hand can go with almost any woman or girl.
Don't forget on one path he will be with Emma.And he for sure likes Christine,not to mention Ellie.

 

[Taker Fan]

. Amber is an old friend. Normally, if Amber had been a new friend, the reaction of Sophia could be normal. But, as an old friend, Sophia might have let Amber talk to Dylan. Looks like Sophia's thinking about something related to sex. Why?
Her reaction, "a bit" too much

Well maybe.
But for example: If a buddy of mine would call my daughter like that, I would react like Sophia. Or as a father, I would throw him out immediately. Even if I would know him for over 20 years.

Lord_Xanatos: Yes I do that. Because it was her mother instinct to stop her. Ambers talking was...well, she talked too sexually about him.

 

[nexer]

Well maybe.
But for example: If a buddy of mine would call my daughter like that, I would react like Sophia. Or as a father, I would throw him out immediately. Even if I would know him for over 20 years.

Lord_Xanatos: Yes I do that. Because it was her mother instinct to stop her. Ambers talking was...well, she talked too sexually about him.

Yes, true. When we talking about a daughter. But, i'm not 100% that is the same path , but It's not hypocrisy after what Sophia was doing with Sam?

 

[Taker Fan]

but It's not hypocrisy after what Sophia was doing with Sam?

Yes it is. But maybe if Amber would know that, she would maybe react the same. But them she is more open minded like Sophia. But to be honest, it is just sad, that we do not get more Amber/Dylan Ecvents like that. I hoped that they would also get a route just like Sam/Sophia.

Amer and Dylan would be the horny and lust route.
Sophia and Sam the romantic and lust route.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Indeed it will be definitely different from others, and with the option of ending storylines from now on starting with Emma's or Dylan's...the story seems that it's going to get more tailored to a player's more preferred interests. Some may have already finished Dylan's Storyline, I have already finished Emma's storyline, and eventually, some might end Alyssa's if they want to or not but the story could become more specific to a player's tastes.

I'm a bit disappointed about the Emma decision because I really wanted to see what more might happen with her and Sophia, but because I want the Dylan stuff I had to close her path.

I don't see how both those paths couldn't have continued if you set Dylan up with Emma because as cute as she is, she's no Sophia, and if I were in Dylan's shoes I wouldn't stop having desires for Sophia just because I'm with Emma. Besides, Sophia's reason was to basically offer up Emma lika a piece of meat for his sexual desires, but he could still have easily come to Sophia for advice about women and sex-related things under the guise of it being for Emma and that could continue to advance the Sophia/Dylan path.

As for Alyssa, it seems for now we can continue with it while still on the Ellie path because according to L&P on Patreon, making a decision in favour of Alyssa in 0.100 will simply give one option less on the Ellie path. Hopefully that one option won't be actual sex, but if it is, then I guess I'll have to end Alyssa's path as I want Sophia to be with Ellie more than any other female character.

 

[Old Dog]

For the pleasure of my fellow degenerate perverts

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Probably Sam likes only a specific type.Dylan on the other hand can go with almost any woman or girl.
Don't forget on one path he will be with Emma.And he for sure likes Christine,not to mention Ellie.

Apparently Dylan's preferences are for older women considering the mags he keeps but also young like the last mag and then if we add the 2 pictures he kept from the bikini fashion show of Sophia, likely is older women and his mom. I also agree that depending uniquely on the player's choices that he could be with Emma otherwise that wouldn't happen in itself and yeah, he liked Christine but she has a boyfriend now. As for Amber's son, I don't what type he specifically likes nor do I really care only that he would try something with his friend's mom.

Well maybe.
But for example: If a buddy of mine would call my daughter like that, I would react like Sophia. Or as a father, I would throw him out immediately. Even if I would know him for over 20 years.

Lord_Xanatos: Yes I do that. Because it was her mother instinct to stop her. Ambers talking was...well, she talked too sexually about him.

As nexer said, that's Hypocrisy for what Amber's son could be doing (if going for some reason with that path). Also, Dylan can also be protective and jealous of anyone talking like that to Sophia even with Amber's son, basically, that's why he can keep Amber's son away from Sophia or shut up Darnell, for example, when he was talking lewdly about Sophia and Alyssa too.

It's the same way for both cases, Dylan is not only protective of Sophia from Amber's son or anyone else, but he could also get jealous like the flirty banter between Sophia with the mailman. As for Sophia, knowing that Amber would flirt with Dylan after what Amber teased her earlier and knowing her for so long, that and adding what both Dylan & Sophia have gone through together. That's why I have my doubts it's only normal motherly protection.

Yes, true. When we talking about a daughter. But, i'm not 100% that is the same path , but It's not hypocrisy after what Sophia was doing with Sam?

Yes, it is Hypocrisy and also a bit of backstabbing towards a friend, remember that what Dylan did with Amber was in response to what Amber's son was doing first and touching Sophia, it annoyed Dylan a lot and decided to do the same with Amber...the thing is that Dylan got the upper hand. Dylan didn't start it, he just retaliated towards Amber's son for touching Sophia, it wasn't his plan doing anything with Amber but it led to that result, and now he has achieved a lot more with Amber than what Amber's son has and even sooner if caring for making a comparison.

Yes it is. But maybe if Amber would know that, she would maybe react the same. But them she is more open minded like Sophia. But to be honest, it is just sad, that we do not get more Amber/Dylan Ecvents like that. I hoped that they would also get a route just like Sam/Sophia.

Well, Amber is more open-minded yes and she already liked Dylan even in a teasing-Sophia way but she noticed him by default compared to Sophia who didn't think of Amber's son like that and the same way until (ONLY if chosen) recently.

Who knows if we'll get or not any more events between Amber & Dylan if he is sent to the boarding school, L&P hasn't said anything concrete on that regard, at least as far as I know. Maybe there could be more or not, either way, that would be an extra path beside the one that Dylan & Sophia already share and the bonus side story with Ellie.

Amer and Dylan would be the horny and lust route.
Sophia and Sam the romantic and lust route.

While yeah, Amber & Dylan could be the horny and lustful route, that could possibly lead to Sophia if she finds out to jealousy and finding more true feelings that she has been trying to suppress about her son, after all, in the bikini fashion event, she also got aroused by also thinking about Dylan and the moment they were sharing, I know that's depending on the path.

Sophia & Dylan can be romantic, intimate, and closer routes besides lustful. I wouldn't be surprised if Sophia & Dylan get more and sooner closely together than others not related to Sophia because the relationship between Mother & Son is already stronger from the start than one that it isn't, it'll grow more and develops to go further in intimacy, closeness, and love.

I'm a bit disappointed about the Emma decision because I really wanted to see what more might happen with her and Sophia, but because I want the Dylan stuff I had to close her path.

I had to do the same but much earlier than the last update since I'm not interested in the lesbian stuff and as for Emma, while nice and cute, she would be better off in another classroom and away from Aiden. I don't have anything against Emma, she is nice but for the role that she was going to play with either Sophia or Dylan...it conflicted too much with the path and had to let her go.

I don't see how both those paths couldn't have continued if you set Dylan up with Emma because as cute as she is, she's no Sophia, and if I were in Dylan's shoes I wouldn't stop having desires for Sophia just because I'm with Emma. Besides, Sophia's reason was to basically offer up Emma lika a piece of meat for his sexual desires, but he could still have easily come to Sophia for advice about women and sex-related things under the guise of it being for Emma and that could continue to advance the Sophia/Dylan path.

Yeah, I see your point and I agree.

As for Alyssa, it seems for now we can continue with it while still on the Ellie path because according to L&P on Patreon, making a decision in favour of Alyssa in 0.100 will simply give one option less on the Ellie path. Hopefully that one option won't be actual sex, but if it is, then I guess I'll have to end Alyssa's path as I want Sophia to be with Ellie more than any other female character.

There you see the choices you will have to make and the conflicts, that's what I've been able to skip easily since my only focus is the Mother & Son story, so I can easily end storylines that aren't important to me but I do understand the dilemmas other players will face with several paths and choices that will lead them to have more save files for different paths.

I don't think it'll be about sex though, but whatever it is, it won't be available if not refusing Alyssa. So you have your priorities with advancing the incest storylines for both Sophia & Dylan and Sophia & Ellie, the rest should be easy if you want to end their storylines or just keep an extra file saved to see what happens with Alyssa.

The only extra file I have is to see what happens with Dylan & Amber and see how that reflects on Sophia & Dylan, other than that it's just Mother & Son without the boarding school.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

There you see the choices you will have to make and the conflicts, that's what I've been able to skip easily since my only focus is the Mother & Son story, so I can easily end storylines that aren't important to me but I do understand the dilemmas other players will face with several paths and choices that will lead them to have more save files for different paths.

I don't think it'll be about sex though, but whatever it is, it won't be available if not refusing Alyssa. So you have your priorities with advancing the incest storylines for both Sophia & Dylan and Sophia & Ellie, the rest should be easy if you want to end their storylines or just keep an extra file saved to see what happens with Alyssa.

The only extra file I have is to see what happens with Dylan & Amber and see how that reflects on Sophia & Dylan, other than that it's just Mother & Son without the boarding school.

Yeah, I suspect the "one less option" will just have to do with the Ellie/Juila event that happens at the same time as the Alyssa event. Probably will be like the previous event where you could stay and watch what goes on with them and it makes Sophia hornier for Ellie, whereas if you choose to do the event with Alyssa you won't see that. Whether or not that impacts future events and thoughts for Ellie is what will really determine which choice is best for me.

 

[Old Dog]

I can't remember who asked about the subway thugs, they will be back, but only towards the end of the game.

 

[Za_Warudo]

Are there incest moments?

 

[lockerxx]

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so the mini sophie/ellie event is comple and maybe the dylan one too