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Heh, I generally fall into that category too.
Some of us try not to be obnoxious dicks about it though.
Sorry, not my intent to be obnoxious but the level thereof in regards to what most are complaining about is directed solely at the MC not being male. Seen that more times about games in the past, most of which the devs caved and now there's an endless supply of copy pasted games with the same theme but different rendered characters. That gets a little boring after awhile.
 

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Sorry, not my intent to be obnoxious but the level thereof in regards to what most are complaining about is directed solely at the MC not being male. Seen that more times about games in the past, most of which the devs caved and now there's an endless supply of copy pasted games with the same theme but different rendered characters. That gets a little boring after awhile.
Obnoxious wasn't directed at you, apologies if that's how it came across.
I was talking about the guy that just entered the thread and whose every opinion is an undeniable fact and the only people that would even consider disagreeing with him are clearly "sucking dev dick".
 
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when you have not 1 but 2 other males in the family, why the fuck does she has to be the protagonist? At this point this is just stupid developing choices considering that there are dozens of examples of what and what not to do. Games with female protagonist only work under certain circumstances, and even then it's pretty stupid and there's literally no immersion.
Strongly biased opinion. You said later it's an incest game. Incest is in a tags but it's not an incest game. Easy as that. There are so many possible routes in it that you shouldn't care about interracial as it can be refused. And how can you talk about immersion when there is no single incest game that's immersive since it's always stupidly unrealistic and makes no sense by definition. Here you have so much background for each character that if you don't feel any immersion it's just not for you. Simple as that. Not every game is for every person
 

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pathetic should be to be able to immerse as the woman
i'm battleshipspacewhalehelicopter,what does that make me ? i sincerely feel sorry for you. bein' stuck in your little bubble,where no opinion tolerated other than your own. FYI,all males are partly females,it's called chromosomes and hormones.
also,there are people who ACTUALLY interested in females perspective,you know...people with liberals values ? yes,there are liberals not only dictators,who view is the only right one.
 
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Yes, I already said it, humiliation and whoring. Here you have swinging at best, and that's already bad.
If you had taste, you'd realize this demo had more immersion and story content than the type of game you want to see made.


Yes, I already said it, humiliation and whoring. Here you have swinging at best, and that's already bad.
So you don't like swinging? Ok? What's that got to do with the game, it's not even listed in what the dev is doing nor was there any such in the demo.

That's nice and dandy, but that objectively makes him a bad developer.
Actually, no it doesn't. It would make any developer display a certain level of self respect for their own idea rather than constantly cave to the demands of a small minority that only want a specific type of theme in ALL of their games. That gets old and boring as I've already stated.

I never said the female protagonist MUST be whores, I said there's no other reason to have a female protagonist, when this is an incest game with a family of 4 that includes 2 men.
You contradict yourself there. That is exactly what you're saying if that is the ONLY reason for a female protagonist in your mind. Also, incest is listed as one of the themes of the game but it absolutely MUST be a male character for it to be valid or have any reason for being part of the game? Your logic is shit there too. You're basically saying that a female character can't engage in that activity as a main character just because you don't like it. So what? If you don't like it, go play another game that has what you do like. At this point it just makes zero sense with that as your biggest talking point.

There's the fact that exploration might very well be a part of this game in the long run since this is just a demo. How about the introduction of a multitude of characters that are clearly well scripted for the most part with only minor grammar errors that are easily enough corrected. How about the chance other characters are going to end up being expanded upon with their own scenes later down the line without the MC actually being directly connected but perhaps indirectly?

There's so many variables you aren't even considering that you simply are functioning on this little thing called tunnel vision. It doesn't have what you want immediately, thus it's bad. The dev won't cave to your immediate demand, thus it's bad. Really? All I can say is, WOW. The arrogance all cause you're butthurt the MC isn't a male. I'm done. Go yell at a wall. I can only hope the dev has ignored most of the "criticism" so he doesn't abandon this project. Some of you seriously need to consider there are more people that come on this forum who aren't solely interested in immedate fap fests based upon creating a harem for a male character in every game they play.

Sure, that's one of the key points of a porn game but everyone does have different interests. Most with a more logical and reasonable mindset are going to go find a different game if they come across one that lacks what they want or at the very least try to tolerate the minor things they don't if it has stuff in it they do like. Don't tear the dev down though just cause they don't cave into your immediate demands. That's just BS, straight up.
 
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Well...I think this guy will shot himself in the foot and will condemn an interesting and promising game just because he is proving too immature to deal with such an "ambitious" project. Hope I'm wrong though. :frown:
 

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@ paragraphs,use it. i can't read your wall of text,it hurt my eyes.
 

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I would like every demo version to have as much content as this one. We are used to that if the game version of 0.01, then we expect 30 seconds of gameplay and the end. But I was pleasantly surprised by this game. The developer deserved our applause.
And the content of the game is very high quality. One word:
Bravo!
 

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This was a demo? this was a fucking demo?? damn!! man... I can't believe I will say this about a game with female MC and NTR but this game is fucking amazing and has a lot of potential... I usually only play games with incest and where the male MC is the son, but your game made me explore other options, now I have two save files, one as good wife (except with son, Sam and museum guys) and one full whore (except Liam, fuck him!)

Pros:
- Great models! the main milf look incredible and all look really good, not exagerated like in other games.
- Easy to play... the game don't need a walkthrough, except for the routes.
- Freedom! you can be a good wife or a "whore".
- Realism and consistency! even if you choose to be a whore in game, there are no "out of characters" moments... the MC questions each of her decisions and wonder about the consequences of her actions... at least for now! I'm sure she will be more whore or prudent in the future xD
- Interesting characters, with a lot of development... this demo lets you know a lot of characters beyond the superficial.
- Nice fetishes! and many more to come according to that I read.

Cons:
- For now it's too easy not to be a good wife... sorry but Liam is an idiot.
- The demo it's huge, maybe not the best decision because surely next updates will be smaller.
 
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Strongly biased opinion. You said later it's an incest game. Incest is in a tags but it's not an incest game. Easy as that. There are so many possible routes in it that you shouldn't care about interracial as it can be refused. And how can you talk about immersion when there is no single incest game that's immersive since it's always stupidly unrealistic and makes no sense by definition. Here you have so much background for each character that if you don't feel any immersion it's just not for you. Simple as that. Not every game is for every person
It IS an incest game if one of the possible choices is incest the same way it is interracial if that's one of the possible choices. Doesn't change the fact that interracial games should keep to themselves, same as cuckolding games, which is probably also a lot in this game. Also, how can anyone get to the conclusion that a game, in order to be immersive, have to be realistic? I can immerse in a hello kitty game provided it has a good story and I'm playing as a male. Are you telling me that MMORPGS are not immersive because you can fly or cast magic? Holy hell.
If you had taste, you'd realize this demo had more immersion and story content than the type of game you want to see made.
I do have taste, and I'm also a guy, so it's really hard to immerse as a whore unless I would want to have a vagina and simultaneously have it filled with dicks, which makes me wonder how you immersed yourself so easily.
no it doesn't. It would make any developer display a certain level of self respect for their own idea rather than constantly cave to the demands of a small minority that only want a specific type of theme in ALL of their games
I do have to agree with you at some extent. However, you're contradicting yourself, how is listening to minorities any difference than listening to the majority? Still shows you're spineless, and if you want self-respect for your game you can drop fan opinion and preference entirely. That doesn't mean dropping feedback, but just not adding or getting rid of things by demand, by minorities or majorities.
You contradict yourself there. That is exactly what you're saying if that is the ONLY reason for a female protagonist in your mind. Also, incest is listed as one of the themes of the game but it absolutely MUST be a male character for it to be valid or have any reason for being part of the game? Your logic is shit there too. You're basically saying that a female character can't engage in that activity as a main character just because you don't like it. So what? If you don't like it, go play another game that has what you do like. At this point it just makes zero sense with that is your biggest talking point.

There's the fact that exploration might very well be a part of this game in the long run since this is just a demo. How about the introduction of a multitude of characters that are clearly well scripted for the most part with only minor grammar errors that are easily enough corrected. How about the chance other characters are going to end up being expanded upon with their own scenes later down the line without the MC actually being directly connected but perhaps indirectly? There's so many variables you aren't even considering that you simply are functioning on this little thing called tunnel vision. It doesn't have what you want immediately, thus it's bad. The dev won't cave to your immediate demand, thus it's bad. Really? All I can say is, WOW. The arrogance all cause you're butthurt the MC isn't a male. I'm done. Go yell at a wall. I can only hope the dev has ignored most of the "criticism" so he doesn't abandon this project. Some of you seriously need to consider there are more people that come on this forum who aren't solely interested in immedate fap fests based upon creating a harem for a male character in every game they play. Sure, that's one of the key points of a porn game but everyone does have different interests. Most with a more logical and reasonable mindset are going to go find a different game if they come across one that lacks what they want or at the very least try to tolerate the minor things they don't if it has stuff in it they do like. Don't tear the dev down though just cause they don't cave into your immediate demands. That's just BS, straight up.
Yes, because you can't immerse if the protagonist is a woman, for the aforementioned reasons. I mean, you can, but that speaks volumes about you. That on itself have nothing to do with the incest, I only mentioned it because you already have 2 characters that would fit way better the role of a protagonist. I'm saying that any man with a dick wouldn't want to engage because I don't think any man that isn't a sissy would like to play as a woman unless he wants to completely degrade and humiliate her, which actually seems to be the future of the protagonist in which case it's perfectly acceptable, but it breaks immersion. And there you go again, "lol don't play it", nice argument.

Also, you seem to have a really shitty definition of immersion. Immersion is being able to live in the skin of a character, naturally, you can do that with women, but again, you are doing that with a woman that will get fucked repeatedly and go into detail about it from a woman stand-point. No matter how good a character is written, the MC will end up being fucked by them, and you will be under her skin when it happens, enjoy your female orgasm. If the dev is such a cry baby to drop the project for criticism, it's for the best.
I would like every demo version to have as much content as this one. We are used to that if the game version of 0.01, then we expect 30 seconds of gameplay and the end. But I was pleasantly surprised by this game. The developer deserved our applause.
And the content of the game is very high quality. One word:
Bravo!
There are better games that do exactly this. Try
 

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Is it really that hard to understand why that many of us don't like being a female MC?

One thing is being a female on Fallout, but a completely different thing is asked to being one on a porn game. Like one guy/girl replied to me yesterday saying that I have a problem in my head for not wanting to play as a female MC and yet I was some sort of a freak for liking being a male MC to fuck some/all the woman:eek:. Seriously, Is really that far fetched that being a straight male that I am for having a fantasy of fucking many woman?
 

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It IS an incest game if one of the possible choices is incest the same way it is interracial if that's one of the possible choices. Doesn't change the fact that interracial games should keep to themselves, same as cuckolding games, which is probably also a lot in this game. Also, how can anyone get to the conclusion that a game, in order to be immersive, have to be realistic? I can immerse in a hello kitty game provided it has a good story and I'm playing as a male. Are you telling me that MMORPGS are not immersive because you can fly or cast magic? Holy hell.
Ehh. Dunno why it's only among incest fans some people are so obsessed with their genre they can't stand any other even if they make sense in a story. Why the hell interracial or NTR or whatever should have their own game except for you not liking them? If you want some massive, multi branching narration you have to use them as they're as natural as anal. Btw. I've heard this thing about NTR but never about interracial so I guess it's progressing oO
Yes, because you can't immerse if the protagonist is a woman, for the aforementioned reasons. I mean, you can, but that speaks volumes about you.
Dude, you're offensive. From this viewpoint you immerse yourself as a boy who wants to fuck his own family which degrades you as a human being in a real world. If you don't like something it doesn't mean other people don't like it as well and it says nothing about them as a people
 
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Is it really that hard to understand why that many of us don't like being a female MC?
No, it's not.
That's basically my position as well. I'm a straight male without submissive or gender-bender tendencies so I very much prefer to play as an MC that matches my preferences.

What is hard to understand is barging into the thread of a game with a female MC and then bitching that it doesn't make your dick happy. I mean you knew that coming in already. Unless you're actually arrogant enough to expect a dev to change his entire concept just for you there's not much of a point to it.
 
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Seriously, Is really that far fetched that being a straight male that I am for having a fantasy of fucking many woman?
Oh boy. Don't get in there. You know exactly the reason for that, and you know that it spreads so far that is even affecting these games. Not like games with female protagonist don't exist, but, again, they either suck, are catered to women, are about rape/humiliation or all three.
Ehh. Dunno why it's only among incest fans some people are so obsessed with their genre they can't stand any other even if they make sense in a story. Why the hell interracial or NTR or whatever should have their own game except for you not liking them? If you want some massive, multi branching narration you have to use them as they're as natural as anal. Btw. I've heard this thing about NTR but never about interracial so I guess it's progressing oO

Dude, you're offensive. From this viewpoint you immerse yourself as a boy who wants to fuck his own family which degrades you as a human being in a real world. If you don't like something it doesn't mean other people don't like it as well and it says nothing about them as a people
I don't understand why people consider incest a "hardcore" fetish when it's the most vanilla thing ever. In that sense, people who likes incest usually like vanilla, so adding these kind of things is straight up an insult. As for NTR and interracial, they should be on the same level of scat, for obvious reasons. You can have a great multibranch narration without adding these kind of shit, but here in the thing, in this case is even worse because the mom is the protagonist.

And yes, truth hurts. his have nothing to do with morals, if that's not obvious, it's about game design and the simple common sense of how immersion, specially in porn games, work. And yes it does say a lot of things about you. I fucked my sister IRL and had a long relationship with her until she had to move out of the country, so it is really surprising I'm into incest or don't see it wrong? I'm not saying everyone is like me, but your tastes, specially in porn, says a lot about you as a person, you like it or not.
What is hard to understand is barging into the thread of a game with a female MC and then bitching that it doesn't make your dick happy. I mean you knew that coming in already. Unless you're actually arrogant enough to expect a dev to change his entire concept just for you there's not much of a point to it.
Then what are you doing here? You add nothing meaningful to the conversation. Also, bitching have changed a lot of things before. You're basically telling me to shut and do/say nothing when I can do/say something that may or may not change it.
 

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No, it's not.
That's basically my position as well. I'm a straight male without submissive or gender-bender tendencies so I very much prefer to play as an MC that matches my preferences.

What is hard to understand is barging into the thread of a game with a female MC and then bitching that it doesn't make your dick happy. I mean you knew that coming in already. Unless you're actually arrogant enough to expect a dev to change his entire concept just for you there's not much of a point to it.
Sorry, I wasn't clear, my comment was not for the dev, but it was for some people that don't understand preferences.
 

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I do have taste, and I'm also a guy, so it's really hard to immerse as a whore unless I would want to have a vagina and simultaneously have it filled with dicks, which makes me wonder how you immersed yourself so easily.
That's what? The third time you've directly insulted me with that remark in one of your posts? It's obvious at this point you need someone to say it to you. Grow up.
 
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