VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[armion82]

Nah, she doesn't have to become a lesbian considering she starts as a straight woman, she is more like experimenting or curiosity maybe than actually switching sides, just like Ellie, she can either experiment or become a lesbian or remain straight and date an asshole like Logan.

As for sex with Dylan, it will happen, I think it could happen sooner than with Amber's son but the plot of the game is how she takes the journey from being a normal mother into something more with her son or experimenting or exploring with her daughter to the point of having incest with either of them. It's just that it's not going to happen right away and immediately like some other games, this is more of an erotic novel and others are more like porn games when sex happens very soon, in this game it has to take its time and it has to come naturally for a mother to engage in incest with either of her children.

Someone mention that Dylan have 10 more steps before sex with Sophia.
Yeah I can name 10 steps if the dev really wants to stretch it,but there is not that much time for that many.
Unless we are going with more than 1 step for some days.
Until the end of the game Dylan have 12 days with events.
The important part is "Dylan".Not Dylan/Sophia.We obviously will get days without Sophia
Dylan/Emma,Dylan/Ellie,probably Dylan/Patricia and Dylan/Amber,maybe even Dylan/Alyssa and Dylan/Christine.
So easy to guess that we have something like only 10 days for Dylan/Sophia.
I think the sex must happen before day 25,to have some time for at least 2-3 more times+eventual threesomes.
Also I don't see sex between Dylan and Sophia before day 20.
That leave us with only 2 possible days-20 and 22/in other days Dylan don't have events/.
My bet is day 22.
Of course all that is based on the info from 2018.Maybe there is a huge change in the roadmap for Dylan.

 

[meanguy]

Who will be the first one that well have sex with Sophia between Dylan or Sam

My guess is Sam will have her first, but then Dylan will play with her sense of guilt for making him feel second best, and have her as well.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Some news for degenerate perverts
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Oh we're definitely getting a sex scene with these two.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Oh we're definitely getting a sex scene with these two.

I would laugh if I've been jealy of the Dylan fans for the last couple of months since Dylan is the first to get caught masturbating and Ellie hasn't, but then she leapfrogs him by being the first to get caught by Sophia having sex.

 

[lockerxx]

Some news for degenerate perverts
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the other big event sophie/alyssa will be that complex?

Small part
That reminds me of of this
A family is at the zoo.They are watching the elephant.Horny elephant.The little girl ask.
-Mommy what is that?
-Nothing.
-Yeah,even that is nothing for your mother.

You insinuate something?
Like Liam and Neil?

shit i forget about Liam well he can have natalie or one of his coworkers.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

shit i forget about Liam well he can have natalie or one of his coworkers.

Everyone forgets about Liam, that's why the GW path is the least popular.

 

[magaclaawe]

Of course all that is based on the info from 2018.Maybe there is a huge change in the roadmap for Dylan.

5head

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

I would laugh if I've been jealy of the Dylan fans for the last couple of months since Dylan is the first to get caught masturbating and Ellie hasn't, but then she leapfrogs him by being the first to get caught by Sophia having sex.

hahaha you've been jealy?!?!?! I don't see any reason to get Jealy about those things, as I've said before, it's better not to compete nor compare because the paths and the characters are very different, their situations can't be compared by its very nature.

Not just caught masturbating but also she has been there as a "source of inspiration" in the beach changing room, then while sharing the bathroom while she was in the tub and he was in the shower, and of course, the first time she was standing by his bedroom door and she heard him moan "mom" so it has been already three times. Also, if counting depending on the player's choice Dylan has also heard Sophia masturbating in her bathroom, and I obviously say depending on the player's choice because I know it can be Ellie instead in the living room but the option is there...for Sophia to be heard/caught by either of her children. Then again, ALL of the situations depends on the player.

By the way, you know I'm not playing that path but is that a definite fact? is Ellie & Julia will be having sex in this new update or is it just here the God of Wine Holy Bacchus theorizing? hehehe. I think it's great for those who like the lesbian path, getting an event that is as long as the "Bikini Fashion Show" because that event was excellent.

I also think that it's different because while Ellie can be linked to either Logan or Julia, Dylan's only main interest is Sophia, he hasn't even consider other girls unless the player decides to set him up with sweet Emma in a non-Dylan path. There's really no other girl there for him to date so it's mainly just Sophia.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

By the way, you know I'm not playing that path but is that a definite fact? is Ellie & Julia will be having sex in this new update or is it just here the God of Wine Holy Bacchus theorizing? hehehe. I think it's great for those who like the lesbian path, getting an event that is as long as the "Bikini Fashion Show" because that event was excellent.

Not just me, Old dog seems to think so too. I mean, just look at the hints L&P is dropping; it will be a long scene, it's "technically demanding", it'll be "rich in detail", they want to "make it look great", etc. They're hyping this up so much and if it's not going to be full on sex, it still feels like we're going to get something pretty steamy, hopefully involving full nudity and maybe even some pussy licking because, as nexer pointed out, Ellie has heard from Sophia that nothing is better than it so she may be keen to try it.

I just hope I'm not hyping myself up too much and will end up disappointed when this update drops.

I also played the bikini fashion show with just Dylan but felt like it dragged on too long. I actually skipped most of the dialogue because it was kind of boring for me.

 

[Alley_Cat]

hahaha you've been jealy?!?!?! I don't see any reason to get Jealy about those things, as I've said before, it's better not to compete nor compare because the paths and the characters are very different, their situations can't be compared by its very nature.

Not just caught masturbating but also she has been there as a "source of inspiration" in the beach changing room, then while sharing the bathroom while she was in the tub and he was in the shower, and of course, the first time she was standing by his bedroom door and she heard him moan "mom" so it has been already three times. Also, if counting depending on the player's choice Dylan has also heard Sophia masturbating in her bathroom, and I obviously say depending on the player's choice because I know it can be Ellie instead in the living room but the option is there...for Sophia to be heard/caught by either of her children. Then again, ALL of the situations depends on the player.

By the way, you know I'm not playing that path but is that a definite fact? is Ellie & Julia will be having sex in this new update or is it just here the God of Wine Holy Bacchus theorizing? hehehe. I think it's great for those who like the lesbian path, getting an event that is as long as the "Bikini Fashion Show" because that event was excellent.

I also think that it's different because while Ellie can be linked to either Logan or Julia, Dylan's only main interest is Sophia, he hasn't even consider other girls unless the player decides to set him up with sweet Emma in a non-Dylan path. There's really no other girl there for him to date so it's mainly just Sophia.

L&P said a while back that playable day 11 would have a "hot lesbian scene". And it hasn't just been Holy Bacchus. But with this latest news, it certainly appears Ellie and Julia will be getting up to far more than just kissing. Maybe not sex, but still. As I've posted previously, I just assumed the two could be sunbathing naked in the backyard if you chose to send Dylan away.

Either way, me being jealy about Dylan is really just swings and roundabouts: Dylan is ahead in some aspects, while Ellie is ahead in others.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

L&P said a while back that playable day 11 would have a "hot lesbian scene". And it hasn't just been Holy Bacchus. But with this latest news, it certainly appears Ellie and Julia will be getting up to far more than just kissing. Maybe not sex, but still. As I've posted previously, I just assumed the two could be sunbathing naked in the backyard if you chose to send Dylan away.

Either way, me being jealy about Dylan is really just swings and roundabouts: Dylan is ahead in some aspects, while Ellie is ahead in others.

I don't think this is going to be dependent on Dylan being sent to boarding school, at least I hope not. It would suck so much if L&P is going to tie the first potentially major lesbian sex scene to a decision that not everyone wants to make or has made.

Dylan isn't going anywhere in my game because he still has a lot seducing to do, but if his presence twat blocks Ellie from experiencing the pleasure of sapphic love, then I will be beyond raging.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I don't think this is going to be dependent on Dylan being sent to boarding school, at least I hope not. It would suck so much if L&P is going to tie the first potentially major lesbian sex scene to a decision that not everyone wants to make or has made.

Dylan isn't going anywhere in my game because he still has a lot seducing to do, but if his presence twat blocks Ellie from experiencing the pleasure of sapphic love, then I will be beyond raging.

It's based on this line from the evening shower day 17:
e "Well, I don't have any, 'cause I was tanning bare where we used to live. But I guess sooner or later I'll get some, too, unless I sunbathe naked in our backyard."
e "But thanks to my pervy little brother who's always creeping around, that won't be possible, unfortunately!"

But think about it: the kissing on day 15 stopped when Dylan and Sam arrived, and Ellie specifically checked he wasn't going to be there before inviting Elena and Julia over (e "Well, I wanted to invite Julia and another friend over to go swimming tomorrow, and we gals just wanted to have some privacy, without my pervy brother peeping at us!"). So whether he knows it or not, he appears to be a "twat blocker".

 

[Holy Bacchus]

It's based on this line from the evening shower day 17:
e "Well, I don't have any, 'cause I was tanning bare where we used to live. But I guess sooner or later I'll get some, too, unless I sunbathe naked in our backyard."
e "But thanks to my pervy little brother who's always creeping around, that won't be possible, unfortunately!"

But think about it: the kissing on day 15 stopped when Dylan and Sam arrived, and Ellie specifically checked he wasn't going to be there before inviting Elena and Julia over (e "Well, I wanted to invite Julia and another friend over to go swimming tomorrow, and we gals just wanted to have some privacy, without my pervy brother peeping at us!"). So whether he knows it or not, he appears to be a "twat blocker".

Things is though, even without him there, doing it out in the open of the back yard, is a pretty risky thing to do anyway. Maybe they'll start doing something outside but once it starts getting really heavy, they'll go indoors.

In any case, I really hope this big lesbian isn't determined by whether or not Dylan is at boarding school. If you don't send him away, he'll be at his martial arts lesson so hopefully that will be long enough for them to do something without worrying about anyone seeing them.

 

[Lukereds]

Is the same character in another game???
It's really similar... really strange...

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Not just me, Old dog seems to think so too. I mean, just look at the hints L&P is dropping; it will be a long scene, it's "technically demanding", it'll be "rich in detail", they want to "make it look great", etc. They're hyping this up so much and if it's not going to be full on sex, it still feels like we're going to get something pretty steamy, hopefully involving full nudity and maybe even some pussy licking because, as nexer pointed out, Ellie has heard from Sophia that nothing is better than it so she may be keen to try it.

Ah ok. As I have made it quite clear by now, I don't like nor play the lesbian stuff that's why I'm not fully aware of its progression and thus why I asked but if it's hinted or possible to happen then I suppose it's excellent for the players that like that part of the game. Yeah, it may be more of a steamy event or oral than actual sex which I think would be what? "scissoring" I suppose.

At least when it comes to actual sex, I would've expected to be between Ellie & Sophia as I expect it to be between Sophia & Dylan (haha I'm still omitting Liam for its boring simplicity), but if Ellie does it with someone else? that's quite fine too.

I just hope I'm not hyping myself up too much and will end up disappointed when this update drops.

I don't hype myself about an event before the update, I just hype myself that an update is coming to avoid any risk of disappointment and I succeed that, by the time when I play through the event, I ended up liking it even more. Just a suggestion so you won't get disappointed.

I also played the bikini fashion show with just Dylan but felt like it dragged on too long. I actually skipped most of the dialogue because it was kind of boring for me.

Yeah, sometimes I also skip through some scenes and reach for the decision-making option and just click it to continue. For example, I have no idea what Ellie, Julia, and the other lesbian girl talk about by the pool just skip through to reach the time for Sophia to go back for Dylan's game or when Ellie & Julia talk and Sophia is eavesdropping just to reach the scene of the trampoline and then playing the video game. So I understand because I do the same when skipping some moments in the game for boredom.

L&P said a while back that playable day 11 would have a "hot lesbian scene". And it hasn't just been Holy Bacchus. But with this latest news, it certainly appears Ellie and Julia will be getting up to far more than just kissing. Maybe not sex, but still. As I've posted previously, I just assumed the two could be sunbathing naked in the backyard if you chose to send Dylan away.

what's S/S, I guess it's sister & sister? Sophia & Patricia then? because M/S is Mother & Son and M/D must be Mother & Daughter. Well, it's a good thing that those three are "crucial components of the game".

Ah okay so yeah it makes sense that the "hot lesbian scene" will be referring to Ellie and Julia then.

Either way, me being jealy about Dylan is really just swings and roundabouts: Dylan is ahead in some aspects, while Ellie is ahead in others.

Exactly!! you know that and I know that. That's why I don't compete nor draw comparisons because since they're completely different characters and personalities they're meant to progress differently but steady, one is not "winning" over the other.

I don't get "jealy" of Ellie because she is, after all, Dylan's sister and Sophia's daughter I like it that she gets good progression in the game as well as Dylan without competing who gets more or sooner than the other. That's why I HATE sibling rivalry and love the bonus side story.

 

[afterlights]

I'd send Dylan and Sam to the moon if that would surely clear the path for Ellie.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Things is though, even without him there, doing it out in the open of the back yard, is a pretty risky thing to do anyway. Maybe they'll start doing something outside but once it starts getting really heavy, they'll go indoors.

In any case, I really hope this big lesbian isn't determined by whether or not Dylan is at boarding school. If you don't send him away, he'll be at his martial arts lesson so hopefully that will be long enough for them to do something without worrying about anyone seeing them.

Risky? How so? Their backyard extends to the end of the block on one side, so the only one they might be concerned about is Sam on the other, and he doesn't appear to have the same rep Dylan does for being a perv. Ellie wasn't concerned at all that Sophia was home when Elena and Julia were over.

Is the same character in another game???
It's really similar... really strange...

Sam uses the same hair asset as Max from Big Brother. It's one of the early ones, so I'm not surprised if it pops up regularly.

 

[Old Dog]

Risky? How so? Their backyard extends to the end of the block on one side, so the only one they might be concerned about is Sam on the other, and he doesn't appear to have the same rep Dylan does for being a perv. Ellie wasn't concerned at all that Sophia was home when Elena and Julia were over.



Sam uses the same hair asset as Max from Big Brother. It's one of the early ones, so I'm not surprised if it pops up regularly.

The view that the 3rd person has does not seem to come from the house and also looks elevated..It could mean nothing but I would say that it could be from Sam's garden,tree house,just a thought

 

[Alley_Cat]

The view that the 3rd person has does not seem to come from the house and also looks elevated..It could mean nothing but I would say that it could be from Sam's garden,tree house,just a thought

Assuming there is a third person. I might be wrong on that part, that's why I was hoping for clarification if there even was one.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Ah ok. As I have made it quite clear by now, I don't like nor play the lesbian stuff that's why I'm not fully aware of its progression and thus why I asked but if it's hinted or possible to happen then I suppose it's excellent for the players that like that part of the game. Yeah, it may be more of a steamy event or oral than actual sex which I think would be what? "scissoring" I suppose.

At least when it comes to actual sex, I would've expected to be between Ellie & Sophia as I expect it to be between Sophia & Dylan (haha I'm still omitting Liam for its boring simplicity), but if Ellie does it with someone else? that's quite fine too.

I believe the correct term these days is "tribbing", and yes, I think and hope that Ellie's first time doing it will be reserved for Sophia but if it happens here with Juila, then I guess that'll be OK. Also, I personally hope Sophia's first tribbing experience will be with Nathalie, that way she has some practice before doing showing Ellie how it's done.

I don't hype myself about an event before the update, I just hype myself that an update is coming to avoid any risk of disappointment and I succeed that, by the time when I play through the event, I ended up liking it even more. Just a suggestion so you won't get disappointed.

Too late, I'm already hyped. Can't come down from that now.

I'd send Dylan and Sam to the moon if that would surely clear the path for Ellie.

Sam, yes, Dylan, no. Family "cums" first.

Risky? How so? Their backyard extends to the end of the block on one side, so the only one they might be concerned about is Sam on the other, and he doesn't appear to have the same rep Dylan does for being a perv. Ellie wasn't concerned at all that Sophia was home when Elena and Julia were over.

The risk that they could be seen by neighbours in the houses next to theirs, or by Sam, or by someone coming home early or unexpectedly. There's a big difference being being clothed and making out, and being naked and possibly having sex. You can make the first one seem like it was nothing, but it's lot more difficult to deal with the second one.