VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Hlextor]

Guys, let it be. Stop arguing the speed of every new update. It makes no sense.
Especially for those, they don’t pledge any cent for the game.
L will never ever change his mind in terms of the quality of his game.
He goes ahead with his plan. It’s no use to rail against the speed of every update. We should realize that the game ends probably sometimes in 8-10 years.
Till then we enjoy each update to the fullest and at the end ... i‘m sure of a masterpiece of a porngame! And of course with a lot of sex!

 

[Deleted member 426842]

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"I don't think you'd like the result especially since you're too spoiled with the looks! [...] Help for the rendering is actually counterproductive in my case and wouldn't be a help at all!"

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

When will the next update will release??

4 months

 

[roro]

You are missing the fact that art edited and programming/translation in both cases are not at 0%.
So you all are wrong
The dev is working on art edited and programming/translation before he finish created and renderd scenes,so we can only make a guess how much time it takes.
Also we shouldn't forget that he must finish also the Patreon friendly version of the game.
This update will have many landladies and tenants

Read again what we discussed here. Alley_cat didn't mention the programming/translation and the Post editing percentage.

 

[nexer]

the option is ellie/julia event or the sophie/alyssa event.later the yoga class.

Sending Dylan/Zac to boarding school or Dylan self-defense. Two options: first choice ends the Alyssa route ???, the second one with Aiden's task included no? So, Sophia returns from the dojo/tatami and meets Alyssa to show her what she's just learned , a kind of full-contact.

P.S. The decision about Alyssa comes a bit later. Sophia must decide if she spends the afternoon with Alyssa or do some yoga.

Does Sophia have some time alone in the house so decides to invite Alyssa over? Because we see Ellie and Julia leaving when Patricia comes to pick up Sophia.

Sophia could be home alone. This is the most believable version, after some hot scene it's normal for them (Ellie/Julia) to go out a bit. We'll see if Sophia's coming out, too.

 

[Xydal]

When he says "For example if a scene has got (...) Would that be ok with you?"
Yes, yes it would, it's new content every month as opposed to new content each 4.

I don't think it would be ok for L&P, aborted event from creativity perspective is like interrupted sex, it annoys everyone and it's possible for him to lose a wave he is riding during development. I assume that his development process isn't straightforward, sometimes he has to return back and make some adjustments to previous scenes to fit them better together. So cutting event in the middle isn't the option imho, cutting between events without keeping half day periods is possible.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sending Dylan/Zac to boarding school or Dylan self-defense. Two options: first choice ends the Alyssa route ???, the second one with Aiden's task included no? So, Sophia returns from the dojo/tatami and meets Alyssa to show her what she's just learned , a kind of full-contact.

P.S. The decision about Alyssa comes a bit later. Sophia must decide if she spends the afternoon with Alyssa or do some yoga.

Sophia could be home alone. This is the most believable version, after some hot scene it's normal for them (Ellie/Julia) to go out a bit. We'll see if Sophia's coming out, too.

Except that it's as lockerxx said, Ellie/Julia or Alyssa, then Patricia. She must decide if she spends the afternoon with Alyssa or Ellie/Julia.

 

[nexer]

Except that it's as lockerxx said, Ellie/Julia or Alyssa, then Patricia. She must decide if she spends the afternoon with Alyssa or Ellie/Julia.

Afternoon

• Ellie/Julia
• Dylan and Zac move in the boarding school OR Dylans 1st self-defense lesson
• Sophia/Claire/Marie/Patricia OR Sophia/Alyssa

Here is different.
After

• Dylan and Zac move in the boarding school OR Dylans 1st self-defense lesson

Sophia comes home, is spying on Ellie/Julia and later Alyssa or Yoga.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I agree with him 100% regarding the detail of the renders. It's A+.
The issue here is that there's a ton of renders per event, some of them aren't needed.

He's also been doing several new environments every time, that adds a lot of work. Hopefully in the future there aren't many new locations.

However, it would be better to push 1 event per month than to push 3/4 events each 4 months. Look at Treasure of Nadia, each 15 days there's an update, small one. Impatient players can play new content each 15 days, patient players can update whenever they want to, no one complains.

When he says "For example if a scene has got (...) Would that be ok with you?"

Yes, yes it would, it's new content every month as opposed to new content each 4.

Releasing one event every month still doesn't solve the issue of this game taking potentially 9-12 years to complete at the current rate progress as it just spreas out the same number of events over the same length of time.

Guys, let it be. Stop arguing the speed of every new update. It makes no sense.
Especially for those, they don’t pledge any cent for the game.
L will never ever change his mind in terms of the quality of his game.
He goes ahead with his plan. It’s no use to rail against the speed of every update. We should realize that the game ends probably sometimes in 8-10 years.
Till then we enjoy each update to the fullest and at the end ... i‘m sure of a masterpiece of a porngame! And of course with a lot of sex!

Well I am a patron and I don't look forward to having to wait that long for the game to be completed because I have serious doubts that L&P will be able to get it done if it takes that long. They can still keep the quality, they just need to reduce the content in terms of the number of characters and story threads. That's the easiest and most efficient way to cut down production time. It's possible this may happen later, but the question would be when? In 5 years when we reach Day 18 or 20? If they cut some stuff now they could reduce the total development time to around 4-5 years and that's much more palatable.

 

[nexer]

Afternoon

• Ellie/Julia
• Dylan and Zac move in the boarding school OR Dylans 1st self-defense lesson
• Sophia/Claire/Marie/Patricia OR Sophia/Alyssa

This is a little tricky. Can't see Ellie/Julia event with someone in the house. Or Sophia leaves during the Ellie/Julia event and returns before it's over. Means that Sophia is back home alone (boarding school and self-defense ). But, Sophia/Alyssa event, if will be in Sophia's house, could have an unexpected guess: Dylan (self-defence option ).

But best way to solve this is: Sophia/Dylan first, go to ... and finish this events meanwhile Ellie/Julia's event begins and continues until Sophia returns home.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Here is different.
After

• Dylan and Zac move in the boarding school OR Dylans 1st self-defense lesson

Sophia comes home, is spying on Ellie/Julia and later Alyssa or Yoga.

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After working on the story the last days and preparing everything for the next update, all is set now.
There will all together be 8 events, most of them pretty tricky to create and some quite extensive. So, there's some work in front of me.
For a better overview, here's the list of the events of 0.100 plus the percent which they take of the overall creation process:
NOON
1) Sophia/Ellie (5%)
2) Dylan's boarding school moving in (5%)
OR: 3) Dylan visits the self-defense course +
conversation about Emma (only if Sophia decided to hook them up)
alternative noon event (10%)
4) Ellie/Julia (25%)
OR: 5) Alyssa (20%)
AFTERNOON
6) Patricia/Claire/Marie (20%)
EVENING
7) Meeting Don Morello (10%)
8) Sophia/Liam (5%)
So, next update will be pretty female dominant. You'll also need to decide between Alyssa and Ellie/Julia. Deciding for Alyssa won't have an effect on Ellie's storyline, just that the opportunities will be less later. Refusing Alyssa will be the end of her storyline! Unfortunately there's no other way because of just too many storylines and not enough hours of the days.
The three main noon events (Ellie/Julia, Alyssa, Patricia/Claire/Marie) will all be a little step forward as for Sophia's lesbian curiosity and general sensual venture.
And we will also have a little story twist. I actually wanted to save it for later but maybe now it'd be better.

You're using out of date and incorrect information

 

[nexer]

OR: 3) Dylan visits the self-defense course +
conversation about Emma (only if Sophia decided to hook them up)
alternative noon event (10%)
4) Ellie/Julia (25%)
OR: 5) Alyssa (20%)
AFTERNOON
6) Patricia/Claire/Marie (20%)
EVENING
7) Meeting Don Morello (10%)
8) Sophia/Liam (5%)

Thks, much better.
Sophia will spy on Ellie. For sure.
We'll have an alternative noon event if Sophia didn't hook up Dylan/Emma.

Will Sophia wait until Dylan's training is over? In this case the "alternative noon event" will be after training.

 

[Hlextor]

Well I am a patron and I don't look forward to having to wait that long for the game to be completed because I have serious doubts that L&P will be able to get it done if it takes that long. They can still keep the quality, they just need to reduce the content in terms of the number of characters and story threads. That's the easiest and most efficient way to cut down production time. It's possible this may happen later, but the question would be when? In 5 years when we reach Day 18 or 20? If they cut some stuff now they could reduce the total development time to around 4-5 years and that's much more palatable

Nach deinem Usernamen zu urteilen, liebst du den Frankenwein!?
I‘m totally agree with you. But which story should he remove? Maybe 1st sidejob with the old men? Or in generell the good wife path? He started with too many protagonists and stories/events. He was eager engaged to be everybody‘s darling.To provide all kind of perverted stuff. And now? This is the point of no return.

 

[Old Dog]

I am intrigued to see how long it may take L&P to do the Sam/Sophia event(Sam concert) evening on playable day 12.Since this is supposed to take up the whole evening event.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Nach deinem Usernamen zu urteilen, liebst du den Frankenwein!?
I‘m totally agree with you. But which story should he remove? Maybe 1st sidejob with the old men? Or in generell the good wife path? He started with too many protagonists and stories/events. He was eager engaged to be everybody‘s darling.To provide all kind of perverted stuff. And now? This is the point of no return.

Personally, the only characters who I think should have any major or significant involvement with Sophia and her family should be Liam, Dylan, Ellie, Patricia, Sam, Alyssa, Nathalie, Julia, Emma, and Morello. Everyone else and all their side stories should be cut.

 

[ancienregimele]

Nach deinem Usernamen zu urteilen, liebst du den Frankenwein!?
I‘m totally agree with you. But which story should he remove? Maybe 1st sidejob with the old men? Or in generell the good wife path? He started with too many protagonists and stories/events. He was eager engaged to be everybody‘s darling.To provide all kind of perverted stuff. And now? This is the point of no return.

It could occur that the older men get better & move back to their own homes. Sophia, on this route, then applies & obtains the second job & the routes converge. There is also the museum visit to consider. It would be easy for Sophia &/or Patricia's diaries to be so full that they have to cancel. Four relatively minor characters could be removed quickly, painlessly & with believable explanations. More could simply not reappear, e. g. the mailman, still delivering but not seen. I can think of more but those five would be my personal favourites to be written out.

 

[Old Dog]

Personally, the only characters who I think should have any major or significant involvement with Sophia and her family should be Liam, Dylan, Ellie, Patricia, Sam, Alyssa, Nathalie, Julia, Emma, and Morello. Everyone else and all their side stories should be cut.

I think he could keep all the characters in the game if he cuts down on the number of renders.
For example keep renders number high for the big events but low for less important events,cut out walking down corridors,testing the temp of the pool water for example.
For example on the characters in the game, he could of had Sophia being a model so you could of had exhibitionist,voyeurism and even lesbian temptation on this route and cut out at least 2 maybe 3 characters,but he would need to change Liam's job for this.

 

[ancienregimele]

I think he could keep all the characters in the game if he cuts down on the number of renders.
For example keep renders number high for the big events but low for less important events,cut out walking down corridors,testing the temp of the pool water for example.
For example on the characters in the game, he could of had Sophia being a model so you could of had exhibitionist,voyeurism and even lesbian temptation on this route and cut out at least 2 maybe 3 characters,but he would need to change Liam's job for this.

Or, how about a part-time model with Liam's company, as hinted at early in the game when Sophia visited Liam's workplace? I've written elsewhere about the potential for persuading Sophia out of her clothes in such a setting, as trust in the professional snapper(s) is built up over time. There could be more than one photographer, so there'd be a man & a woman. My only proviso would be that they should be considerably older than Sophia. (I'll write their back-stories, if necessary). We need catalysts in this game, hence my hopes for Aiden, Bennet & Morello. I've got a lot of respect for L&P but it really is time to get a move on & none of the above would sacrifice the quality most of us prize.

 

[Xydal]

It could occur that the older men get better & move back to their own homes. Sophia, on this route, then applies & obtains the second job & the routes converge. There is also the museum visit to consider. It would be easy for Sophia &/or Patricia's diaries to be so full that they have to cancel. Four relatively minor characters could be removed quickly, painlessly & with believable explanations. More could simply not reappear, e. g. the mailman, still delivering but not seen. I can think of more but those five would be my personal favourites to be written out.

Guys do You really think that dev is going move his game towards sex scenes? As far as I can see the main dev's goal is: "teasing must go on", that's why L&P is constantly adding new faces to the game. Tease the new ones and forget about old ones, that's the strategy. Implied sex scene(s) is/are most attractive and obsessive, when they look close for the player, but can't be reached.
To illustrate my words, let's remember forgotten characters:
1. Movers
2. Museum guys
3. Gym guys
4. Park & (partially subway) thugs
5. Old patients from first Sophia's side job
6. Claire and her daughter
7. Neil & Amber
8. Janitor
9. Natalie

Who else ? Summarizing: there are a lot of characters in the game and he keeps adding more fresh faces. Mrs Myers and her sons are latest additions. I'd like to be wrong, but facts are stubborn.

 

[Old Dog]

Guys do You really think that dev is going move his game towards sex scenes? As far as I can see the main dev's goal is: "teasing must go on", that's why L&P is constantly adding new faces to the game. Tease the new ones and forget about old ones, that's the strategy. Implied sex scene is/are most attractive and obsessive, when they look close for the player, but can't be reached.
To illustrate my words, let's remember forgotten characters:
1. Movers
2. Museum guys
3. Gym guys
4. Park & (partially subway) thugs
5. Old patients from first Sophia's side job
6. Claire and her daughter
7. Neil & Amber
8. Janitor
9. Natalie

Who else ? Summarizing: there are a lot of characters in the game and he keeps adding more fresh faces. Mrs Myers and her sons are latest additions. I'd like to be wrong, but facts are stubborn.

The movers will be back,but not till near the end of the game.
The Museum guys will be back on Playable day 14
Gym guys who knows
Subway thugs will be back near the end of the game
Old patients from Sophia's first side job will be back update after next.
Claire and her daughter will be back this update,biggest event so far.
Neil and Amber( as a couple) will not play a major part.
Janitor still has a part to play,what part and how big we don't know.
Natalie will be back on playable day 12.
So your point about forgotten characters is invalid