VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Rythan25]

Thank you very much for your support!
Actually I still don't understand what's the difference between NTR and cuckold. This game will have cuckold events but only if you like this fetish. In my game everything is avoidable. You don't have to do what you don't want to. There will always be a decision.
What concerns the in***t stuff. It's a very important, big part of the story and it will definitely be in this game, still choosable of course. My plan was to release two versions. One censored for Patreon, without these kind of scenes, and one uncensored which will be released on a little web-page. That's why I also thought about finding someone who could help me to create a very small website, to release the uncensored versions later. But there's still some time because the first of such events I guess I'll have to cut out will take place at Day 15 (we're at Day 12 now).

To me the difference is this, and I can be VERY wrong, but I am going by what most people despise about NTR.

Cuckold - seems to me like the the husband is ok with the wife doing other guys as he knows he can't satisfy her anymore, or gets his rocks off by watching her get dicked. But she is still HIS, at the end of the day she sleeps with him, and still loves him and remains by his side.

NTR- some asswipe loser steals the wife away, while he himself not deserving her, he can be a rapist, a abuser, or just lowlife scum that treats her like shit, but the wife changes her established personality 180 just to justify being with this asshole. In most cases the NTR jackass also steals the girl, and leads her down a life of sickening debauchery where shit isn't even sexy or erotic anymore.

For example in your awesome (so far) game, let's say my idea of Liam actually cheating on Sophia with the boss daughter is true,in the meantime Sophia is being seduced and eventually becomes sexually active with Sam, most people would cheer, and applaud this ! If eventually Liam decides to let Soohia keep banging Sam while he does the ones girl he would be a cucokld but people would be ok with this....

The bad (NTR) example .... Liam stays true, working hard to give his wife and kids everything they deserve and is a stand up guy if a little neglectful... Sophia doesn't let herself be seduced by a worthy candidate but instead throws a bitch fit and decides " hey I'm gonna let myself be fucked by BBC garbage at the gym despite claiming for most of the story that I am not attracted to black guys". She does, then immediately becomes a slave to dark meat for no farking reason, meanwhile the BBC trash talk about what a filthy slut she is, and how her husband was a limp dick loser that couldn't satisfy her....

 

[relayer98]

I vote for all sides of this story ... life is a dirty thing .) if you are not sterilized .)))

 

[titokm10]

To me the difference is this, and I can be VERY wrong, but I am going by what most people despise about NTR.

Cuckold - seems to me like the the husband is ok with the wife doing other guys as he knows he can't satisfy her anymore, or gets his rocks off by watching her get dicked. But she is still HIS, at the end of the day she sleeps with him, and still loves him and remains by his side.

NTR- some asswipe loser steals the wife away, while he himself not deserving her, he can be a rapist, a abuser, or just lowlife scum that treats her like shit, but the wife changes her established personality 180 just to justify being with this asshole. In most cases the NTR jackass also steals the girl, and leads her down a life of sickening debauchery where shit isn't even sexy or erotic anymore.

For example in your awesome (so far) game, let's say my idea of Liam actually cheating on Sophia with the boss daughter is true,in the meantime Sophia is being seduced and eventually becomes sexually active with Sam, most people would cheer, and applaud this ! If eventually Liam decides to let Soohia keep banging Sam while he does the ones girl he would be a cucokld but people would be ok with this....

The bad (NTR) example .... Liam stays true, working hard to give his wife and kids everything they deserve and is a stand up guy if a little neglectful... Sophia doesn't let herself be seduced by a worthy candidate but instead throws a bitch fit and decides " hey I'm gonna let myself be fucked by BBC garbage at the gym despite claiming for most of the story that I am not attracted to black guys". She does, then immediately becomes a slave to dark meat for no farking reason, meanwhile the BBC trash talk about what a filthy slut she is, and how her husband was a limp dick loser that couldn't satisfy her....

I thought cuckold and NRT was the same can we have a cuckold tag also in the website so we can watch the tag please.

 

[User_32285]

Cuckold - seems to me like the the husband is ok with the wife doing other guys as he knows he can't satisfy her anymore, or gets his rocks off by watching her get dicked. But she is still HIS, at the end of the day she sleeps with him, and still loves him and remains by his side.

NTR- some asswipe loser steals the wife away, while he himself not deserving her, he can be a rapist, a abuser, or just lowlife scum that treats her like shit, but the wife changes her established personality 180 just to justify being with this asshole. In most cases the NTR jackass also steals the girl, and leads her down a life of sickening debauchery where shit isn't even sexy or erotic anymore.

Your first example is Netorase, your second is Netorare and to make it complete, if you as player would steal away the wife from the husband it's Netori.

 

[Ignatz]

And...we should probably cap this discussion before it takes over the thread (as it has on other game threads)

 

[tigers]

Is there a blowjob scene? If yes, how to get it?

 

[Ignatz]

You have to be on good wife path

 

[othello]

And...we should probably cap this discussion before it takes over the thread (as it has on other game threads)

The NTR quoted in the above post is a Dutch Radio and TV organization. It's programmes have got nothing to do with any sex or even porn channels, it's educational, cultural and entertainment. It's rather popular in the Netherlands. Well, you're right, nothing that should be discussed here.

 

[Alchemist301]

Amazing game, it had really started to grow on me. It's a shame that it takes so long before updates, but I guess for such quality content - it's worth!

 

[Deleted member 42]

Is there any way to unlock that Sam's guitar sceen when he touches MC? it needs like 25 filthy points and u can't even get that much by playing the game

 

[ThunderStruck]

Is there any way to unlock that Sam's guitar sceen when he touches MC? it needs like 25 filthy points and u can't even get that much by playing the game

Yes you can, you just have to get every filthy point along the way until you reach that scene. Or you can use console cheat "filthy = x" (without the quotes) where x is required number of points.

 

[uhtredviking]

No Incest tag/genre? :\
Is just cuz of patreon? Cuz this game is great with the tension and possibility of incest causality and the act consequently...

The scene of porn movie when she start think of herself in that position I can only think of her with Dylan and Sam. :|

Hope the others paths are optional.
Then I'll really like this game.

 

[Ignazzio]

That's surely one of the most difficult games for a proper judgement here. It's clearly superior in terms of pace, natural approach, and details. Updates even if they sometimes feel short are on the different level than other VNs as dev has no fixation on sex and everything is rich in renders and detailed. When it comes to the build up it's easily the most natural game we have here. I enjoyed latest update a lot and I'm extremaly happy that dev won't follow other people's vision. It's only problem is that such games don't fit this silly monthly model of Patreon as in such model overall quality of game doesn't really matter that much if updates aren't filled with pornlike nudity that would broke any natural storyline in this game. Mixing that with dev clearly focused on money and dying Patreon market - no newer dev reached even half of first devs (BB, DoD, DMD) level of support - is a bad prognostic. When I see a dev who's openly saying he will leave his game unfinished in a year (cuz reaching for 10k seems impossible at this moment on Patreon) I don't know what to think. I can just hope he'll reach it in some weird way or slow down development process a lot and releases an updates per 3 months or so. Germans are clearly way to rich for such development model (3k$ in my country is like half a year wage) and I can't bet on him at this point even tho I really do wish him best. I can't really find any serious issues with game itself. Only incest parts annoy me as they're clearly to cater on popular fetish fans while they feel off in a game that tries to be realistic. But I know it's an element that's unavoidable on Patreon. Thankfully they are all avoidable so all looks great if I wish for it. Sam's route seems superb at this point tho I'm sure there will be other routes for us to check. I just hope we'll see them developed at all and dev will reach his ambitions as even tho slowly he's still growing.

 

[Williebouy]

That's surely one of the most difficult games for a proper judgement here. It's clearly superior in terms of pace, natural approach, and details. Updates even if they sometimes feel short are on the different level than other VNs as dev has no fixation on sex and everything is rich in renders and detailed. When it comes to the build up it's easily the most natural game we have here. I enjoyed latest update a lot and I'm extremaly happy that dev won't follow other people's vision. It's only problem is that such games don't fit this silly monthly model of Patreon as in such model overall quality of game doesn't really matter that much if updates aren't filled with pornlike nudity that would broke any natural storyline in this game. Mixing that with dev clearly focused on money and dying Patreon market - no newer dev reached even half of first devs (BB, DoD, DMD) level of support - is a bad prognostic. When I see a dev who's openly saying he will leave his game unfinished in a year (cuz reaching for 10k seems impossible at this moment on Patreon) I don't know what to think. I can just hope he'll reach it in some weird way or slow down development process a lot and releases an updates per 3 months or so. Germans are clearly way to rich for such development model (3k$ in my country is like half a year wage) and I can't bet on him at this point even tho I really do wish him best. I can't really find any serious issues with game itself. Only incest parts annoy me as they're clearly to cater on popular fetish fans while they feel off in a game that tries to be realistic. But I know it's an element that's unavoidable on Patreon. Thankfully they are all avoidable so all looks great if I wish for it. Sam's route seems superb at this point tho I'm sure there will be other routes for us to check. I just hope we'll see them developed at all and dev will reach his ambitions as even tho slowly he's still growing.

So incest could'nt be part of the original idea from the creator. Since it is a popular fetish, maybe it is a fetish of the creator also. I can even spin it around and say, that i don't like the non incest parts. The reason i play erotic games is to be able to do stuff i cant in real life, so why is he offering me boring vanilla sex, when i could get that everyday without having to play a game?

 

[Ignazzio]

So incest could'nt be part of the original idea from the creator. Since it is a popular fetish, maybe it is a fetish of the creator also. I can even spin it around and say, that i don't like the non incest parts. The reason i play erotic games is to be able to do stuff i cant in real life, so why is he offering me boring vanilla sex, when i could get that everyday without having to play a game?

Didn't say that. It's probably his original idea. It's way too popular to miss it and I would go for it as well if I was in his place. It just doesn't feel right in realistic game for me and that's it. It's always really fantastish but in this game it feels much more like that. Just my personal opinion. No point in arguing as I know I would lose as minority here.

 

[Williebouy]

Didn't say that. It's probably his original idea. It's way too popular to miss it and I would go for it as well if I was in his place. It just doesn't feel right in realistic game for me and that's it. It's always really fantastish but in this game it feels much more like that. Just my personal opinion. No point in arguing as I know I would lose as minority here.

I agree with you that it's not realistic, but if i wanted realism, i'd just fuck my GF. Playing a game where nothing illegal or extremely naughty happens is like watching a movie about filing your tax or some other mundane "realistic" task. I want to escape to a place or a time, where i cant normally be, do things i normally couldn't/wouldn't do. And i'm not trying to argue with you, i'm just trying to show you my pov. This game for example puts me in the shoes of a beautiful woman, and if i where a woman i would fuck everything that came my way(maybe not douchefags), probably just as a response for having to work so hard to get laid in real life as a not so beautiful man.

 

[Ignazzio]

I agree with you that it's not realistic, but if i wanted realism, i'd just fuck my GF. Playing a game where nothing illegal or extremely naughty happens is like watching a movie about filing your tax or some other mundane "realistic" task. I want to escape to a place or a time, where i cant normally be, do things i normally couldn't/wouldn't do. And i'm not trying to argue with you, i'm just trying to show you my pov.

Totally understandable. I also play these games for some sort of a fantasy. I wasn't talking about games in general but about this one as it's developed in a way that makes it feel realistic. It's just a minor issue for me as it's avoidable but for me it just doesn't fit whole setting of this game. Nothing serious and I understand why you like it. We all like different things and most games here is based on a different fantasies.

 

[a55555]

This game is amazing and has potential to be the best h game. My only real complaint is the amount of black screens. Will check this game out again several months down the line for a more complete game on both sides (filthy and good path). I know it takes a long time to satisfy both routes.

I'm also glad there's someone making h games with passion. That seems to have been lost. The other devs just quit after a short while and want a quick penny.

 

[Evil_Cookie]

But i‘ll also stop my pledge if you introduce some NTR stuff.

And I will also stop my pledge if he will not introduce NTR stuff. I remember how this game was started, It was started as NTR game - this introduction with workers was direct hint for NTR content, only the blind can't to see it. And now, after all of that, some dude jumps like a devil out of a snuffbox and started to blackmail "If you not change the main lane of the game I will not pay anymore" Hey, you act like a.... This is just NOT FEAR. If autor will not introduse NTR content and debauchery it will be betrayal of the first patrons which waited this content so long. There are so many good games without NTR, and so less good content with NTR.

P.S. I hate NTR in real life, but games exists to meet our secret temptations.

 

[a55555]

And I will also stop my pledge if he will not introduce NTR stuff. I remember how this game was started, It was started as NTR game - this introduction with workers was direct hint for NTR content, only the blind can't to see it. And now, after all of that, some dude jumps like a devil out of a snuffbox and started to blackmail "If you not change the main lane of the game I will not pay anymore" Hey, you act like a.... This is just NOT FEAR. If autor will not introduse NTR content and debauchery it will be betrayal of the first patrons which waited this content so long. There is so many good games without NTR, and so less good content with NTR.

P.S. I hate NTR in real life, but games exists to meet our secret temptations.

Yup well said. It is also avoidable for people who don't like it.